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India: Gujarat riot Muslims 'eliminated'
BBC News ^ | 04/14/05

Posted on 04/14/2005 11:05:20 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: stripes1776
academia will do its best to make sure that many continue to know little about it.

correction: liberal academia

21 posted on 04/14/2005 7:30:57 PM PDT by The Incredible One
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To: The Incredible One

But you repeat yourself.


22 posted on 04/14/2005 7:37:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: The Incredible One
correction: liberal academia

correction to the correction: left-wing, socialist academia. There is nothing liberal in the classic sense about it.

23 posted on 04/14/2005 7:40:20 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: stripes1776

Practically every Muslim east of Saudi Arabia is a descendent of someone who was forced to convert to Islam. And many north, south and likely east as well. All Muslims in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, India, Malayasia, Indonesia, etc - most are descendents of Hindus or Buddhists who were forced into Islam.

You know, "the Koran or the scimitar". They also used rape and other methods - such as very high taxes for non-Muslims, so poor people couldn't afford not to convert. Lots of methods.

Very, very few were converted by realizing the "superiority" of Islam to, say, Hinduism, Christianity, or Buddhism, or even animism.


24 posted on 04/14/2005 7:42:10 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: stripes1776; little jeremiah

thanks for your correction. these people are as responsible as the islamists for terror in the world today. thanks to them the western world is fast asleep at the wheel. slammie populations are rising across europe in norway, denmark, holland, france, britain. i dont have a problem with a multi cultural society as long as these cultures are TOLERANT OF OTHER CULTURES AND CAN CO-EXIST PEACEFULLY.

the slammies "mis utilise" democarcy for their own ends. they vote EN-BLOC for islamic causes and leverage this power to condone terror by co-religionists elsewhere.

why dont people stand up and speak the truth!!!! pl before it is too late.


25 posted on 04/14/2005 7:52:20 PM PDT by The Incredible One
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To: little jeremiah; stripes1776

the history of india makes interesting reading. if you needed
proof that islam is a different version of nazism - this is it. taxes called jaziya on hindus, rape of hindu women, mass massacres of hindu populations and destruction of temples.

somehow the leftists werent concerned when the taliban blew up the buddhas in bamiyan. the "al aqsa" mosque is one more symbol of islamic terror and intolerance.


26 posted on 04/14/2005 7:55:18 PM PDT by The Incredible One
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To: little jeremiah
All Muslims in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, India, Malayasia, Indonesia, etc - most are descendents of Hindus or Buddhists who were forced into Islam.

The Iranians (Persians) were Zoroastrians. When the Muslims invaded they forced most Persians to convert by various coercive methods. Many thousands of Zoroastrians fled to India centuries ago--to Gujarati where the riots mentioned in this article took place. A Hindu prince allowed them to come if they promised not to convert people to their religion. There are still many thousands of Parsees (derived from Persian) in Gujarati.

27 posted on 04/14/2005 7:56:42 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: stripes1776

Right - I'd forgotten about Zoroastrianism.


28 posted on 04/14/2005 8:08:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

That's because the Sangh Parivar and VHP are already legal.


29 posted on 04/14/2005 11:49:34 PM PDT by econ_grad
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To: econ_grad

The two mentioned groups are not mafia. Dawood Ibrahim is one.


30 posted on 04/15/2005 3:14:49 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

Of course not. You didn't get the irony.


31 posted on 04/15/2005 8:16:26 AM PDT by econ_grad
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To: econ_grad

Well, then would you care to explain the irony I missed? I'd love to hear from you.


32 posted on 04/15/2005 9:28:36 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

These groups are just as thuggish and in any other circumstance would also be illegal and be controlled by the underworld.


33 posted on 04/15/2005 9:51:22 AM PDT by econ_grad
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To: The Incredible One

Keep counting. You have ways to go before you get to 100 million. The world must be pretty small for you if you think that anyone who doesn't like your way must be a Paki/Slammie/Khalistani. I support an independent Khalistan and Kashmir, but not sure whether I endorse the leadership of those groups. But again, if you make certain political movements illegal they would be controlled by the underworld. So, by your own admission am I to take it that India is a Hindu country and not a pluralist democracy? I have never said I as a non-Hindu had less rights than a Hindu, other than the little incidence of our church getting firebombed and we couldn't even register a complaint with the police. I am sure the laws of the land says otherwise, but de facto things are different.


34 posted on 04/15/2005 10:04:38 AM PDT by econ_grad
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To: little jeremiah

Fine. Then you would think that Indians would worship the British for freeing them from Islamic rule. Why don't we see that in India, except for a very few of the elites who are essentially the pariah in India.


35 posted on 04/15/2005 10:06:44 AM PDT by econ_grad
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The British also looted, stole, imposed their version of western superiority and consciously distored Indian history to convince educated Indians that their culture was inferior and of recent origin.

Indian culture and civilization is the oldest in the world. What we see today is a pale, twisted version of her ancient glory.


36 posted on 04/15/2005 10:54:09 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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The world must be pretty small for you if you think that anyone who doesn't like your way must be Paki/Slammie/Khalistani. I support an independent Khalistan and Kashmir, but not sure whether I endorse the leadership of those groups.

so here is an anglo saxon protestant that is supporting a theocractic islamic terrrorist state. woo hooo the K9 units smell a jehadi spreading his prop-a-ganda.

So, by your own admission am I to take it that India is a Hindu country and not a pluralist democracy?

A Muslim president and a Sikh Prime Minister do not make India a hindu country. Why dont your Pakistani friends guarantee equal rights to all citizens in their constitutions. It is a good beginning you know. and it is pretty easy too. they just need to follow india's example

I have never said I as a non-Hindu had less rights than a Hindu, other than the little incidence of our church getting firebombed and we couldn't even register a complaint with the police.

prop-a-gandaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. you should have tried Sonya Gandhi who is a catholic. /sarcasm. how is your church in pakistan and saudi arabia doing?

I am sure the laws of the land says otherwise, but de facto things are different.

I see that you are upset that the Indians dont have Shariya..:-)))

Fact is - you are marketing rotten apples when you raise the banner of NICE ISLAM. There is no such thing as civilised islam. Your energy is better spent asking your Pakistani friends to join the ranks of civilisation by giving up Islam and its agenda of murder and conquest.

37 posted on 04/15/2005 12:06:58 PM PDT by The Incredible One (Mohammed is a true "Profit" of God)
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To: The Incredible One

If you are competing against Saudi Arabia, then maybe you are doing fine. It was propaganda alright, we had to fix the church ourself. If India is so pluralist, why not grant the plebiscite in Kashmir that they have been postponing since 1948? Why not let the Khalistanis make their case and get rejected if they cannot find a majority? That is how things are settled in the civilized world where you are trying to enter. Until then, you just have to settle the position of being marginally better than Saudi Arabia, where at least I wouldn't make the mistake of going to Church. I am sure laws in India are different, but enforcement is very poor and biased depending on who runs the local show. And these thugs are rarely punished. Also, India is a land of de facto laws - something that you learn only by living there.


38 posted on 04/15/2005 12:16:55 PM PDT by econ_grad
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I support an independent Khalistan and Kashmir

awesome..now all you need to do is get indian citizenship and stand in queue with a billion people and hit that voting machine with all the passion in the world

you can support anything you want to. for ex: i support making myself the king of new york. somehow the rest of the world doesnt seem to take me seriously.

again islamic terror is heinous and it should be condemned. the slammies have created problems all across the world. in palestine, chechnaya, kashmir...and even in their adopted lands - netherlands, norway, britain and france. something is wrong. dont you think so?

39 posted on 04/15/2005 12:22:25 PM PDT by The Incredible One (Mohammed is a true "Profit" of God)
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f India is so pluralist, why not grant the plebiscite in Kashmir that they have been postponing since 1948

Get this straight - in a true democracy a majority cant vote away the rights of the minorities. the islamic majority in kashmir will have no problems declaring it an ISLAMIC COUNTRY where non muslims are treated as half humans. Peek across the border...In Pakistan the evidence of a non-muslim man is half the evidence of a muslim man. Is this the DEMOCRACY you want to create.

Slammies are very good in demanding the RIGHT TO DISCRIMINATE OTHERS. Sorry that isnt freedom. It is jingoism, nazism, fascism and islam.

40 posted on 04/15/2005 12:25:11 PM PDT by The Incredible One (Mohammed is a true "Profit" of God)
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