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At tax time, lots of money under table
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 4/13/05 | Ron Scherer

Posted on 04/13/2005 11:42:59 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: monkeywrench
Let me put it this way. We are ultimately responsible. We are in charge.

Was Israel in charge when they were bought and paid for by Egypt?

101 posted on 04/15/2005 10:14:57 AM PDT by biblewonk (Jer 7:18 and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven;)
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To: newgeezer

If 'Caesar' said, "Give me 100% of your income," would you render it?


102 posted on 04/15/2005 10:16:54 AM PDT by k2blader (Immorality bites.)
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To: biblewonk
Israel didn't have a govt. like ours. They had kings. Our govt. is unique in spite of your liberal protestations.

Here, go educate yourself. http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/AmericanIdeal/aspects/traditional_american_philosophy.htm

103 posted on 04/15/2005 10:19:06 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: monkeywrench
Israel didn't have a govt. like ours. They had kings. Our govt. is unique in spite of your liberal protestations.

Here go educate yourself and your biblically liberal prostitutions.

BIBLE

104 posted on 04/15/2005 10:29:42 AM PDT by biblewonk (Jer 7:18 and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven;)
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To: biblewonk
"Is not this the fast that I choose? To loosen the fetters of wickedness, to release the bands of the yoke bar, and to send away the crushed ones free, and that you people should tear in two every yoke bar?"

Isaiah 58:6

"Do you not know that if you keep presenting yourselves to anyone as slaves to obey him, you are slaves of him because you obey him, either of sin with death in view or of obedience with righteousness in view?"

Romans 6:16

"The word that occurred to Jeremiah from Jehovah after King Zedekiah concluded a covenant with all the people who were in Jerusalem to proclaim to them liberty, And you yourselves turn around today and do what is upright in my eyes in proclaiming liberty each one to his companion, and you conclude a covenant before me in the house upon which my name has been called. Therefore this is what God has said, 'You yourselves have not obeyed me in keeping on proclaiming liberty each one to his brother and each one to his companion. Here I am proclaiming to you a liberty,' is the utterance of God, 'to the sword, to the pestilence and to the famine, and I shall certainly give you for a quaking to all the kingdoms of the earth."

Jeremiah 34:8

God cares about freedom.

105 posted on 04/15/2005 10:35:24 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: monkeywrench

Why was Israel enslaved? Per your posts, it was their fault. They were in charge. This is dead wrong.


106 posted on 04/15/2005 10:55:43 AM PDT by biblewonk (Jer 7:18 and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven;)
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To: So Cal Rocket
How so? If someone paid a painter $600 in cash under the table to paint his house, how would the FairTax catch this?

The fair tax is the solution to every problem, just ask them.

107 posted on 04/15/2005 11:00:03 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Ditto
Unless the painter took the $600 cash and burned it, the Fair Tax will catch it when he spends it.

As does the current system. Or are you just lying to us when you tell us goods right now have 25% embedded tax already in them? You guys argue out of both sides of your mouth.

108 posted on 04/15/2005 11:01:38 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: biblewonk
They had kings, we don't. You keep changing the subject.

With all the spin, you have to be liberal. Good day.

109 posted on 04/15/2005 11:04:06 AM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Conservative Goddess
When the painter takes that $600 to the grocery store, to Wal-mart, hardware store, to the restaurant, to the mall, it will be taxed. Under a retail sales tax, the tax can only be avoided if that money is saved or invested.

Exactly the same as it is today. Under the table transactions taxed, legal transaction not. Whether you call it consumption or income, it all ends up about the same. Illegal transaction no one pays taxes on, legal transactions someone ends up paying taxes.

110 posted on 04/15/2005 11:04:38 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: monkeywrench

I'm more conservative than thou. Good day.


111 posted on 04/15/2005 11:58:55 AM PDT by biblewonk (Jer 7:18 and the women knead dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven;)
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To: So Cal Rocket

Looks like the converted Pullman train car apartment my friend rented (in Pullman WA no less).


112 posted on 04/15/2005 12:02:09 PM PDT by Betis70 (Guinness is good for ya)
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To: So Cal Rocket
How so? If someone paid a painter $600 in cash under the table to paint his house, how would the FairTax catch this?

FairTax doesn't tax services. "Under the table" makes no sense in this context.

I am continually appalled that there are conservatives who don't support the NRST. It may not be 100% perfect, but it is a vast improvement over the income tax structure.

113 posted on 04/15/2005 12:11:48 PM PDT by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: Sloth
FairTax doesn't tax services.

Ummm, yes it does. NRST taxes goods and services, read the bill sometime.

I am continually appalled that there are conservatives who don't support the NRST. It may not be 100% perfect, but it is a vast improvement over the income tax structure.

I am continually appalled there are conservatives who support stuff and don't have a clue what exactly it is they support. NRST not being 100% perfect is one of the grossest understatements I have ever heard.

114 posted on 04/15/2005 1:58:02 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: k2blader
If 'Caesar' said, "Give me 100% of your income," would you render it?

As strawmen go, that one's beyond lame.

115 posted on 04/16/2005 12:19:10 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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