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9 lives? Don't count on it, kitty - Vote favors end to feral cat protections
Milwaukee Journal / Sentinal ^ | 4/12/2005 | Meg Jones

Posted on 04/12/2005 11:34:55 PM PDT by flashbunny

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To: flashbunny
My problem is not so much with the feral cats, but the tremendous likelihood that domestic house cats will slip out of their homes and/or collars and get shot. Plus, the owner wouldn't be able to do didly squat about it .

What about cats who've had microchips implanted? However much cat owners spend to get them put in is wasted if this law goes into effect.

I remember somewhere, possibly on Fox News when they were talking about it, that they said that a cat can be shot if it's not under direct control of an owner. I suppose that means if Boots jumps out of your arms, anybody could legally blast 'em with their shotgun. =P

In my opinion, they're nuts.
61 posted on 04/13/2005 12:41:48 AM PDT by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: flashbunny

I volunteered my time for stray kittens. Every cat I've ever had was a stray kitten that I trapped.


62 posted on 04/13/2005 12:41:56 AM PDT by cabojoe
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To: flashbunny

No problem! When somone abuses this and shoots somone's pet and uses this "law" as an excuse, the perp will be splattered on the pavement. Have fun!


63 posted on 04/13/2005 12:42:42 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: Paul_Denton

It's called the law.

You see, somone shoots an animal that isn't feral or actually has a collar, it's still against the law. All this law does is put wisconsin in line with the majority of other states that recognize nuisance animals (feral cats) need to be controlled.

Try reading the article and what the law proposes instead of just emoting.


64 posted on 04/13/2005 12:44:36 AM PDT by flashbunny (Any discussion involving cats apparently requires the abandonment of logic by cat lovers.)
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To: Paul_Denton

"No problem! When somone abuses this and shoots somone's pet and uses this "law" as an excuse, the perp will be splattered on the pavement. Have fun!"

Thanks again for illustrating the psychotic nature of the cat fanatics. Way to go.


65 posted on 04/13/2005 12:45:26 AM PDT by flashbunny (Any discussion involving cats apparently requires the abandonment of logic by cat lovers.)
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To: flashbunny

Pfft just because a cat has a collar just not mean its not stray. You have such a one dimensional mind.


66 posted on 04/13/2005 12:45:27 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: flashbunny

Suppose a cat ran away and but had its collar on or was simply lost. Does that qualify as Farel? I think not.


67 posted on 04/13/2005 12:47:31 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: Kozak

"Love your kitty all you want, just keep it off MY property."


One of my earlier comments was precisely, that the people who abandon the cats are the ones at fault, not the poor cats.

Many cats who have owners, roam the neighbourhood, some of them cause more damage, including killing birds, than any feral cats.

So I guess, let's kill all the outdoor cats.


68 posted on 04/13/2005 12:47:35 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: flashbunny

big bullies. and who exactly is it that forced those little feral kitties to live in the wild to begin with? and now we want to kill them? great. what a nice society.

its not like these poor animals have a choice. plus, there are a zillion domestic cats who are "not under the control of a human" or "wearing a collar" at any given time. so now everyone is forced to keep their domesticated cats inside for fear their vicious anal-retentive feral song bird protecting neighbor will shoot first and ask questions later.

so who said feral song birds should have any more protections than feral cats? don't they attack helpless little feral bugs? i say this is the anti-cat lobby at work. their sincerity doesn't pass the sniff test.


69 posted on 04/13/2005 12:47:45 AM PDT by applpie
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To: Termite_Commander

"I remember somewhere, possibly on Fox News when they were talking about it, that they said that a cat can be shot if it's not under direct control of an owner. I suppose that means if Boots jumps out of your arms, anybody could legally blast 'em with their shotgun. =P"

No. Try reading the articles on this. There are plenty. This does not open up cats roaming in your own yard to other people, no matter how many here would try to twist it to say it does or will.

"In my opinion, they're nuts."

Hey, thanks for projecting.

Are the majority of states that treat feral cats in the way this law proposes nuts?


70 posted on 04/13/2005 12:47:58 AM PDT by flashbunny (Any discussion involving cats apparently requires the abandonment of logic by cat lovers.)
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To: flashbunny
Thanks again for illustrating the psychotic nature of the cat fanatics. Way to go.

Thanks for admitting the fact that people will abuse the law for their own ends. Way to go.

71 posted on 04/13/2005 12:48:13 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: flashbunny
A thought just struck me, which is rare for my small mind.

What about we list convicted felons as an unprotected species? Imagine what a crime deterrent it would be! :D
72 posted on 04/13/2005 12:49:13 AM PDT by Termite_Commander (Warning: Cynical Right-winger Ahead)
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To: Paul_Denton
We are talking about FERAL cats ..... not strays. That should be clear enough.

Nam Vet

73 posted on 04/13/2005 12:49:21 AM PDT by Nam Vet (MSM reporters think the MOIST dream they had the night before is a "reliable source".)
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To: flashbunny

So when are they going to pass a law to kill abandoned dogs?

They did that in Bucharest, Romania, rounded up all the stray dogs and killed them. Brigitte Bardot protested it.

Actually, that was more humane, than allowing people to kill them by whatever means they feel like it -- what they are doing with these alley cats, that they named feral cats, to make them sound less lovable.


74 posted on 04/13/2005 12:49:49 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: flashbunny
What do you mean by "pest control"? Several counties in my state have virtually eliminated the problem of rampant feral cats by instituting an extensive, cheap, spay/neuter program in conjunction with a media campaign. There are very few animals to adopt at the local shelters because the programs have been so successful.

Housecats are a threat to the environment whether or not they belong to responsible owners (I saw a documentary about a study conducted in England fifteen years ago that demonstrated this convincingly; the average indoor/outdoor housecat has a dramatic effect on local wild bird/rodent populations). If you genuinely fear for the ecosystem you would do well to advocate the end of pet ownership(as PETA and other such organizations do). Somehow I doubt that's your agenda.

In any event, responsible folk who find truly feral cats ought to take them to a shelter where they can be treated and put up for adoption and then put down humanely if those efforts are unsuccessful. Allowing people to shoot any stray cat who wanders through their yard is plainly wicked.

75 posted on 04/13/2005 12:49:56 AM PDT by newsworthy
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To: Termite_Commander
What about we list convicted felons as an unprotected species? Imagine what a crime deterrent it would be! :D

Especially sexual offenders! :D

76 posted on 04/13/2005 12:50:01 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: applpie

For pete's sake, doesn't any of the cat contingent ever read the articles? Or even the posts?

There are certain conditions that have to be met before a cat can be shot. It will not allow shooting in suburban yards where shooting firerams is already illegal. Nothing changes that. This is a tool for property owners in rural parts of the state (and wisconsin had plenty of those) who know their property to get rid of pests that shouldn't be there.

Like Nam Vet said, sure is easy to tell the city folks on the thread.


77 posted on 04/13/2005 12:50:29 AM PDT by flashbunny (Any discussion involving cats apparently requires the abandonment of logic by cat lovers.)
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To: Nam Vet
We are talking about FERAL cats ..... not strays. That should be clear enough.

And who can tell the difference between a farel and a stray? You have the Power of the Force or somthing? hmph

78 posted on 04/13/2005 12:51:04 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the UN out of the US and US out of the UN!)
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To: newsworthy

"In any event, responsible folk who find truly feral cats ought to take them to a shelter where they can be treated and put up for adoption and then put down humanely if those efforts are unsuccessful."

Uh, yeah, you go out to a rural county where a third generation feral cat who has never been declawed or touched by humans lives. Talk in a soothing voice to the cat as you attempt to pick it up. Feel the cats claws in your legs and or/ stomach as you realize it doesn't want to go with you.

Besides, a guy living out in the country who has a chicken coop now has to take a couple hours out of his day to pick up a cat and take it to a shelter because some idiot from the city dumped his unwanted litter of kittens off in the country several years ago?

Sorry, what a wimpified nation this has become. For hundreds of years land owners who encountered a pest that was harming his land and property dispatched the pest in a human way- with a shot of lead. They weren't "plainly wicked". They possessed more knowledge of nature and common sense than the cat fanatics do.


80 posted on 04/13/2005 12:55:45 AM PDT by flashbunny (Any discussion involving cats apparently requires the abandonment of logic by cat lovers.)
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