COUNTERACTIVISM! of School Gay 'Tolerance' Activism "Day Of Silence" WEDS 4/13

Personal prerogative ping for those fighting the culture war.

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I believe in equal rights. So a 15 year old girl I find on top of my 14 year old daughter gets the same treatment as a 15 year old boy. Once off the door jamb and out ya' go.

Good point I would extend that to an older girl taking liberties with a minor of the same gender too. Stuatory rape should not differentiated by sexual orientation either.

I'm sure glad as a teacher that none of this is being promoted out my way. Even if it was, it wouldn't make it into my classroom.

And I have to add, I've never even seen the books, "Heather Has Two Mommies," "Bud Has Two Buddies," "Peter Has Two Papas," "Bruno Has Two...." forget that one.

Normal people should pass out pamphlets that explain to children why it's bad to tolerate homosexuals. It'll make more sense.

Interesting point. I think the meaning for the word tolerance has been taken way out of whack by people on both sides of the spectrum. To me, the meaning of tolerance is not even about homosexuality. It does mean treating others as I would like to be treated (wonder where that came from??). I try to teach that to my students and don't even put race, homosexuality (I don't even discuss this as I don't feel it really should be in schools).
I'll "tolerate" gays, but I won't "tolerate" their pushing of a political message or lifestyle in a place that it does not belong.

What if homosexuality is genetic?

You are lucky. As a high school teacher, I received a poster to post in my class if I supported GLSEN and would allow students with cards to remain silent during class on Wed. I do not support this and am angry that the school system has put in the middle of this. Today two of my students were discussing this one who would participate and the other who was raised to not accept this type of behavior. They asked for my opinion in which I said that I think it is a political topic which should not be allowed in schools. It is a club. We also have a youth fellowship for athletes but they have to meet before or after school. (By the way, the school district I teach in, in NC is only allowed to teach abstinence in school). I can not understand why we are promoting this during school hours. We also have a SAVE club, students against violence everywhere. This is where this thing belongs. I am all for tolerance, but this club has an agenda and I will not be promoting it. It is placing me in an awkward situation and has in the past caused some shouting matches. My husband said to just show a video for the hour and a half and that way no one could talk. I told him that that would waste a day of instruction for an agenda I did not sign on to do.

What if homosexuality is genetic?

The following pulled from The Gay Gene?

Isn't homosexuality heritable?: Yes, significantly.
So it is inherited?: No, it is not.
I'm confused. Isn't there is a "genetic component" to homosexuality?: Yes, but "component" is just a loose way of indicating genetic associations and linkages. This will not make sense unless you understand what, and how little, "linkage" and "association" really means.
What about all the evidence that shows that homosexuality "is genetic"?: There is not any, and none of the research itself claims there is; only the press and, sadly, certain researchers do-when speaking in sound bites to the public.
But isn't homosexuality "biologically in the brain"?: Of course it is. So is just about everything else. I'll bet people who pray regularly have certain enlarged portions of their brains!
So doesn't that mean that homosexuality is "innate"?: No more than prayer is. The brain changes with use or nonuse as much as muscles do-a good deal more, in fact. We just do not usually see it happening.
But doesn't homosexuality run in families?: Yes.
So you get it from your parents, right?: You get viruses from your parents, too, and some bad habits. Not everything that is familial is innate or genetic.
But it just seems to make sense. From the people I know there's a type-it's got to be inherited-that runs in families and a lot of these people are gay, right?: That is what associated traits are-but what exactly is the associated trait-or traits-you are detecting? If there is one thing the research confirms, it is that it is not "gayness" itself. That is why these traits are sometimes in evidence at a very early age, long before sexuality is shaped.
So what are these traits?: An important question, indeed. Science is being seriously obstructed in its effort to answer that question. If we were allowed- encouraged-to answer it, we would soon develop better ideas on what homosexuality is and how to change, or better, prevent it. We would know who was at greater risk for becoming homosexual and what environments- family or societal-foster it. As one prominent gay activist researcher implied, all genetic things being equal, it is a whole lot easier to become "gay" in New York than in Utah. So who do you think would benefit most from that kind of research?
Well, what traits do you guess are "associated," as you put it, with homosexuality?: May I speculate, perhaps wildly? That is how scientific hypotheses are first generated. The important thing is not to avoid ideas that prove wrong, just not to cling to them if they do.
Okay, go ahead, speculate.: Intelligence, anxiety, sensitivity, aesthetic abilities, taste. You know, all the stereotypes.
But where do these traits come from? Aren't they inherited?: We do not know yet. Some may be. Or rather, we do not know how much is inherited, and which elements are direct and which merely further associated and linked with other yet more fundamental traits. But you are getting the picture. That is how the research ought to proceed. It is not necessarily that the traits that facilitate homosexuality are themselves bad; perhaps many are gifts. Athleticism is a generally good thing, and we think highly of people who satisfy their athletic impulses as, say, outstanding BBPs. Not so the fellow who merely becomes a thug.

And there's more - a lot more.

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You are lucky. As a high school teacher, I received a poster to post in my class if I supported GLSEN and would allow students with cards to remain silent during class on Wed. I do not support this and am angry that the school system has put in the middle of this. Today two of my students were discussing this one who would participate and the other who was raised to not accept this type of behavior. They asked for my opinion in which I said that I think it is a political topic which should not be allowed in schools. It is a club. We also have a youth fellowship for athletes but they have to meet before or after school. (By the way, the school district I teach in, in NC is only allowed to teach abstinence in school). I can not understand why we are promoting this during school hours. We also have a SAVE club, students against violence everywhere. This is where this thing belongs. I am all for tolerance, but this club has an agenda and I will not be promoting it. It is placing me in an awkward situation and has in the past caused some shouting matches. My husband said to just show a video for the hour and a half and that way no one could talk. I told him that that would waste a day of instruction for an agenda I did not sign on to do.

Good for you. The communities and teachers here would not even tolerate that so there is very little about the topic that ever comes up here. The ONLY time it has come up in 9 years of teaching was when a couple of students came up claiming that Tinky Winky was gay (having heard the mighty Fallwell's all-knowing statement as such, not any statement from a pro-gay organization).

Abstinence is only taught here too. In our elementary, the PTA handles it and parents attend with their kids. Though I never really saw the g stuf going through school, even if I had, it would not have mattered. My parents trained us in morals and values and would not have worried about us being affected. None of my seven siblings nor I ever had to worry about drugs, alcohol, pre-marital s--, smoking, etc. We didn't really hit the parties, but we didn't hide under a rock either. We were all active in sports, youth groups, family, clubs (including Boy Scouts--all 6 boys are Eagle Scouts), etc. And yes, we went to an inner-city type high school (which I absolutely enjoyed).The afore-mention notion was confirmed when my brother recently told a study group classmate to leave the house when he started ranting about g-m. Luckily, the others were definitely not supportive of the guy.

As far as a promotion poster, I have that one solved. I sometimes conveniently forget things. I could just make that same excuse here if the situation ever arose.:)

I have to admit, I don't really like a lot of PC stuff. I think it's been taken way far to extreme in both directions. I don't like the organizations promoting g stuff everywhere. On the other extreme, it seems as if it's only a matter of time before old standbys like Shaggy and Scooby, Full House (3 real and surrogate dads), Laverne and Shirley (all of them--Carmine and Lenny and Squiggy included), Gilligan's Island, and so on are going to be accused of promoted the g agenda. I hear on Sesame Street that Ernie is moving out of Bert's place, Oscar will find a real home and will become nice, Big Bird will wear some clothes, Kermit will find a real frog as a girlfriend instead of a pig, and Elmo will go out for the football team. Coming soon to a TV near you.

"Discrimination" used be be a good thing, as in "discriminating tastes". It meant you were able to calmly evaluate, appreciate nuances, and politely decline things you thought could be replaced with better choices. Now it just means "judgemental" or worse, "bigoted".

It's the thought police trying to pressure your common sense away, to be replaced with their agenda-driven shibboleths.

Yes you are right, it is TV and music that is allowing this to become the standard. Parents, teachers, and especially administrators are in a quagmire on this subject. The old damned if you do scenario.

Click below to see if someone at your child's school has registered to promote the Day of Silence:

http://www.dayofsilence.org/about/participants.php

Yeah : )

God kills homosexuals through nature. He always has.

Psssssst. No one gets out of here alive.

Hold a mock auction of the school board members on silent day.

I'd like to be on that ping list, if you don't mind.

Demonsterably untrue, so irrelevant.