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Communism and human nature (Bolshie Mod sez, Arise ye kittens of the earth!)
Bolshie Mod Manifesto ^

Posted on 04/05/2005 10:50:57 AM PDT by Sammy sam

Many argue that communism will never be possible because of "human nature". The essence of this false argument is the belief that a communist society would consist of an all-powerful central government that would tell everybody what to do--and would therefore undermine the creative initiative of individuals and the search for happiness.

• This argument is based on two false assumptions:

(1) It assumes that a communist society will look like the former Soviet Union, or the current China, North Korea, etc (ie: corrupt police states with a feudal-style ruling class) (2) It assumes that people will only work in order to own bigger and bigger piles of commodities.

• The truth is that: (1) There will be no government in communist society--people will do what they want without being pushed around by anyone. The development of a corrupt police state or a new ruling class will be prevented by the struggles of the masses who will be armed with the weapon of transparency. (2) In a world of abundance for all no one will have to struggle (or even work) for the necessities of life (which will be a birthright--just like the air we all breathe). People will work on projects of their own choosing because (a) they find the work fun and interesting; (b) they enjoy the work relationships with talented and dedicated co-workers; (c) they want to make the world a better place; or (d) they want social status and recognition. A world of abundance for all where work is fun (and voluntary) will be made possible by a much higher productivity of human labor.

• An example of communist work relationships is provided by the Linux computer operating system--the core of which was created by many thousands of people--all working for free. A 2nd example is the "work" involved when people post to this forum. No one gets paid to post here--but people do so--because it is an expression of their principles and convictions.

• Who is in control? Under capitalism (and previous economic systems such as feudalism and slavery) only a small fraction of the population has control over their conditions of work--and the life of society as a whole. Only under genuine communism will the masses control their conditions of work--and the culture, economy and politics of society.


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1 posted on 04/05/2005 10:50:57 AM PDT by Sammy sam
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To: Sammy sam

Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


2 posted on 04/05/2005 10:51:56 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: Sammy sam

Blah, no government. Everyone living off the land. Sure.

A non-communist state will run over the commune as soon as there's no central power.


3 posted on 04/05/2005 10:52:17 AM PDT by G32
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To: Sammy sam

4 posted on 04/05/2005 10:53:18 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Standing athwart FR, yelling 'Stop!')
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To: Sammy sam

....Imagine....


5 posted on 04/05/2005 10:53:42 AM PDT by scan58
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To: Sammy sam
"The truth is that: (1) There will be no government in communist society--people will do what they want without being pushed around by anyone.

Over 100 million innocent human beings were murdered by communist governments in the 20th century chasing your insane delusions.

6 posted on 04/05/2005 10:54:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Sammy sam

The pure communism you ask for is a modified anarchist system, left and right meeting and annihilating.

It cannot work. People will always work for their own good.


7 posted on 04/05/2005 10:54:46 AM PDT by Crazieman (Islam. Religion of peace, and they'll kill you to prove it.)
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To: Sammy sam

Wow, this should be interesting


8 posted on 04/05/2005 10:54:59 AM PDT by contemplator
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To: Sammy sam

You should have posted this on April 1st.


9 posted on 04/05/2005 10:55:15 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: Sammy sam
...who will be armed with the weapon of transparency

The "weapon of transparency"...like The Invisible Man? You're dreamin', bud.

10 posted on 04/05/2005 10:56:28 AM PDT by scan58
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To: Sammy sam

The most impressive aspect of this essay is the lack of spelling errors and use of punctuation. Sammy must have excellent supervision at the home...


11 posted on 04/05/2005 10:58:09 AM PDT by Spok
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To: Sammy sam; MEG33; dubyaismypresident; 4mycountry; Pan_Yans Wife; Charlie OK; E Rocc; dirtboy; ...
Another


12 posted on 04/05/2005 10:59:45 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TV News and the MSM - - - ROTFLMAO)
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To: Sammy sam
Only under genuine communism will the masses control their conditions of work--and the culture, economy and politics of society.

See, that's why it won't work. Humans need leaders. I suppose the intentions were good, at first, in the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, et al, but it all rolls around to the same old garbage government control.
There is and never will be such a thing as "genuine communism". Besides, I like my stuff and I don't want to share it with anyone else.

13 posted on 04/05/2005 11:01:07 AM PDT by scan58
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To: Sammy sam

We Love Bolshie Mod!
"Arise Ye Russian People!"
Za Nushu Chestnyu...


14 posted on 04/05/2005 11:01:13 AM PDT by Darksheare ("I'll tell you once more before I get off the floor, don't bring me clowns." -misheard lyrics)
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To: Darksheare

Ya ne znaio


15 posted on 04/05/2005 11:02:27 AM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; scan59

*ping*


16 posted on 04/05/2005 11:02:42 AM PDT by scan58
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To: Sammy sam
Right, and some animals are more equal than other animals


17 posted on 04/05/2005 11:04:52 AM PDT by Godzilla (What on earth are you here for?)
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To: Sammy sam

18 posted on 04/05/2005 11:05:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Sammy sam

LOL! thanks for the humor break.


19 posted on 04/05/2005 11:07:07 AM PDT by talleyman (A mind is a terrible thing...)
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To: Sammy sam
Hey a**hole, how did you ever manage to chew through the leather straps? First, the land of freedom, abundance, fun, blah, blah, blah described in your diatribe already exist - it's called the United States of America. Second, your idiotic claim that capitalism is a system in which the society at large is "controlled" by a select few is delusional. Everyone is free to move about the country and work (or not) as they please. You obviously have a low opinion of all people if you think they can be YOUR equals.
20 posted on 04/05/2005 11:07:26 AM PDT by Jaysun (I must warn you, I am a black belt in bullshitsu)
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