City Man arrested outside Fla. hospice (College Prof Tasered after trying to bring Terri water)

Scranton Times-Tribune ^ | 3/30/2005 | Josh Brodesky

[atomicpossum]

You're surprised that the police are on the side of the law, whether or not they happen to agree with it?

Where does a judge get the power to ban oral feeding?

[MplsSteve]

That's what I was thinking too.

It sounds to me like the Pinellas Park Police are trying to up the bail amount to scare off further protestors.

[RGSpincich]

Two bottles? Overkill. Would take less than a bottle to drown Terri.

[goldstategop]

This wicked act of the state reminds me of an observation from Isaiah: "Woe to those who call good evil and evil good and who see light as darkness and darkness as light and to whom sweet tastes as bitter and bitter as sweet."

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[Dog Gone]

What do these people hope to accomplish by rushing the hospice? They can't seriously believe they'll get to Terri's bedside.

Is it that much fun to get arrested and pay a fine? It certainly isn't helping Terri.

[knittnmom]

"He was not representing the school at all," Mr. Robbins said. "He was acting on his own behalf." Mr. Robbins said Baptist Bible College and Seminary has no official position on the right-to-die case.

Something wrong here, if the BAPTIST Bible College and Seminary has no position. And later in the article, it said they don't know if they'll discipline him for this. HELLO!??? Tasering sometimes kills - he took the chance of dying to save a life. Sounds like a medal is more in order than discipline. Yeesh.

[Conservative_Rob]

From the web site of the Baptist Bible College and Seminary: (www.bbc.edu)

Official Statement on Dr. Dow Pursley

Dr. Dow Pursley is the Clinical Director of Counseling Programs at Baptist Bible Graduate School. We do not know the details of what occurred. While taking some personal time in Florida, he was apparently arrested. Dr. Pursley was not acting on behalf of Baptist Bible College & Seminary.

At BBGS, Dr. Pursley serves as a graduate-level professor and is Clinical Director of the Love-Life Marriage and Family Center. He is a dedicated man with strong beliefs and God-given convictions.

This is a copy of the e-mail I sent to the president of Baptist Bible College & Seminary:

To: jjeffery@bbc.edu

Mr. Jeffery ---

 

I am appalled at your response to the courage of Dr. Dow Pursley - "Dr. Pursley was not acting on behalf of Baptist Bible College & Seminary."  Why does a supposed college whose mission statement includes "We Believe . . .  In the verbal and plenary inspiration of the original manuscripts of the Old and New Testaments, which constitute the inerrant Word of God" have to distance itself from a staff member who is literally living the Scriptures?

 

For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink.  Mat 25:42

 

They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?';  He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'  Mat 25:44-45

 

You should be applauding Dr. Pursley - not distancing yourselves from him.  I was wondering how it could be that a majority of so-called evangelical Christians could support the starvation murder of this poor unfortunate woman.  Now I know why - it comes from the cowardice of the seminaries.  I will pray that the scales will be removed from your eyes and your heart.  The time for political correctness is over - it's time for the "true" Christians, the Christians that "Believe . . .  In the verbal and plenary inspiration of the original manuscripts of the Old and New Testaments, which constitute the inerrant Word of God." to come forward boldly and take a stand like Dr. Pursley.

Signed

[Kokojmudd]

Official Seal of Pinella County Florida

[underwiredsupport]

Posted a few days ago..and very real today....WOW.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1372142/posts

Greer's troops in action.....

STOP RESISTING OR YOU WILL BE TAZED!!

CLEAR THE AIR!! EMERGENCY TRAFFIC!!

OFFICERS NEED ASSISTANCE!!  REPEAT, WE NEED HELP!!

SUSPECT IN CUSTODY, RADIO SECURE...

RETURNING TO POSTS!!

 

Greer's troops in action.....

STOP RESISTING OR YOU WILL BE TAZED!!

CLEAR THE AIR!! EMERGENCY TRAFFIC!!

OFFICERS NEED ASSISTANCE!!  REPEAT, WE NEED HELP!!

SUSPECT IN CUSTODY, RADIO SECURE...

RETURNING TO POSTS!!

[goldstategop]

Civil disobedience is meant to draw the attention of the community to an UNJUST act. We don't seriously believe it will change the minds of the authorities but it will inform the country we do not recognize the legitimacy of their actions and we will not be silent witness to the crime.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[Monterrosa-24]

Eventually one may get by the Gestapo. Or the police themselves will be arrested when the Gadsden Militia finally shows up.

[bvw]

Good point. The ironies of Judicial Murder.

[quack]

Well,they can't take the chance of upsetting a potential tuition paying student,can they?What was that about serving two masters?

[goldstategop]

Not even the Romans crucified followers of Jesus for bringing water when he was dying on the Cross. And yet the Pinehellas police acts worse than the Romans. It is still necessary to pray for them dear children, since they do not know what they are doing. We are witness to the Passion Of Terri.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)

[SedVictaCatoni]

Or do you maintain order while watching water pass by?

I think that, given that their instructions are to prevent people from crossing the police barricade, preventing somebody from crossing the police barricade is probably "maintaining order".

[BookaT]

Hey I just had a thought. You can't give her water. Well, I was wondering if we could charge the bad guys in this action for murder. Stay with me as I try to explain.

While the order is to not give water or food, right. Well what about rain. I don't know what the ranifal is there. By keeping her unexposed to the elements they are killing her. They are preventing her from having the chance of getting God's help. Put her outside and see how fast it rains.

I mean if she could curvive on her own they would let her right? If for some reason she lived without water and food being provided by humans they wouldn't shoot her would they? Well, my arguement is by sheltering her via artificial means they are violating the courts wishes, right? Provide no artificial sustanence. The weather is not artificial. The humidity itself could help.

Point 2. IF she is in an airconditioned room they are killing her. Hear me out. I believe the first step in airconditioning is to dehumidify the air. If it is not a step of the process it is one effect. If they are killing her by providing her with shelter agianst God's Rain(Reign) and then aritficially dehidrating her via Air conditioning they need to stop now.

On top of this They should immediately rehydrate her until she can take food again(a reset the clock type thing) Move her outside into the weather. The medical facilty and ALL associated persons(Judge Greer and his buddies) should be charge with attempted murder.

This is the same thing as giving her the chair. Except horribly slower.

the bottom line is..

If she would be able to survive on her own they would have to let her, right? Well they need to give her the chance to survive OWN HER OWN. With out intervention. No A/C no roof to block the rain and natural humidity.

Look she would have given up long ago if she didn't want to live.

Any ideas on this?

[Skooz]

It certainly isn't helping Terri.

You are, of course, correct.

But, he's done far more than I have. People have reached a point of desperation. She is almost certainly very close to death, and all we do is pound away on our keyboards complaining about it. That doesn't help her much, either.

[ex 98C MI Dude]

Neither of those charges will be supported when it comes to a hearing, so this is yet another case of prosecutorial misconduct (overcharging in the hopes of a guilty plea). Burglary?! Yes, a man carrying water to a dying woman is hell-bent on looting the place... of what, bedpans? And then they Taser him for being able to outrun them. Hence the 'resisting arrest without violence charge'. Which is yet another specious charge dreamed up by prosecutors in order to intimidate the arrestees that they have no case against.

Justice? We don't need no stenking justice. WE ARE THE LAW!

[quack]

Good one!I'd like to add,if I may.....

John 4:13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:

4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

[SedVictaCatoni]

What do these people hope to accomplish by rushing the hospice? They can't seriously believe they'll get to Terri's bedside.

In the circus this has become, everybody gets to be a performer.