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Two labs confirmed Pentagon anthrax: same genetic strain used in the 2001 attacks.
UPI ^ | March 21, 2005 | Dee Ann Divis

Posted on 03/21/2005 10:54:21 AM PST by Gene Vidocq

WASHINGTON -- Anthrax has been confirmed in samples collected from the two Pentagon mail facilities that were at first closed last week and then declared free of the pathogen, United Press International has learned.

The head of the company that was accused of contaminating the samples sent from those facilities -- a detached building on the Pentagon grounds in Arlington, Va., and the other in Falls Church, Va. -- said the presence of anthrax was detected independently by two government laboratories.

Robert B. Harris, president and chief executive officer of Commonwealth Biotechnologies Inc. in Richmond, Va., also said the anthrax found was the same genetic strain used in the 2001 attacks.

(Excerpt) Read more at wpherald.com ...


TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 911; amerithrax; anthrax; antraz; bollingafb; cbi; cbw; ciprotime; colphilipzackdidit; commonwealthbiotech; dod; jihadinamerica; sept11; terrorism; usamriid; usps; wmd
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1 posted on 03/21/2005 10:54:24 AM PST by Gene Vidocq
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To: Gene Vidocq

Mark for later


2 posted on 03/21/2005 10:56:27 AM PST by Dad2Angels
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To: Gene Vidocq

What???
We REALLy need to work on our response to Bio Terrorism...this sends a message to AQ look! were confused and Discombobulated!


3 posted on 03/21/2005 10:58:50 AM PST by El_Doctor ( Éireann go Brách)
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To: Gene Vidocq

Hmmm... a major story.

Not good news - at all. Praying the good guys can track down the perps this time.


4 posted on 03/21/2005 11:00:33 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Gene Vidocq

So there was real Anthrax in the latest mail order Anthrax scare?


5 posted on 03/21/2005 11:00:38 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: Shermy; Mitchell; Battle Axe

Ping


6 posted on 03/21/2005 11:00:42 AM PST by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Steel Wolf

Scare?


7 posted on 03/21/2005 11:01:47 AM PST by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Gene Vidocq

I've had all my Anthrax shots and I still find the idea of biological warfare pretty scary. But that's just me.


8 posted on 03/21/2005 11:04:17 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: Gene Vidocq

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1366305/posts


9 posted on 03/21/2005 11:04:32 AM PST by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Gene Vidocq

This is a big story. the anthrax killer is back.


10 posted on 03/21/2005 11:04:52 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: Gene Vidocq

Now, has anyone been keeping any eye on that scientist guy, Stephen Hatfill?


11 posted on 03/21/2005 11:05:43 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Celibacy is a hands-on job.)
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To: xzins; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Mitchell; GOPJ; Nita Nupress; kristinn; Battle Axe; Dog; Dog Gone; ..

FYI........ping


12 posted on 03/21/2005 11:05:47 AM PST by maestro
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To: El_Doctor
What???
We REALLy need to work on our response to Bio
Terrorism...this sends a message to AQ look! were
confused and Discombobulated!


They are!!! See what the article says:

The Pentagon is working to gather more than 8,000 pieces of mail that moved through its detached facility between March 10 and March 14.

Government at work. Don't you feel safer?
13 posted on 03/21/2005 11:06:02 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: maestro

Thanks for the ping.


14 posted on 03/21/2005 11:08:27 AM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: MrNatural
*They're baaaack!*
15 posted on 03/21/2005 11:10:39 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

ping


16 posted on 03/21/2005 11:10:50 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Gene Vidocq; muawiyah
CBI is a sub-contractor that conducts routine testing. The identity of the prime contractor who received the results is unclear.

So, it's not just one private contractor, but through two before the tests get to the proper federal authorities? Talk about Terror-budget pork barrel abuse!

"Same strain"

I suppose the prudent question is, "Was it the same strain you used to test the equipment?"

The contractor is in mass CYA mode.

17 posted on 03/21/2005 11:13:59 AM PST by Shermy
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To: Rutles4Ever

"This is a big story. the anthrax killer is back."

Doubt it. Reads like spin from the contractor alleged to have been sloppy.


18 posted on 03/21/2005 11:15:14 AM PST by Shermy
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To: Gene Vidocq

Homeland Security seems much more interested in political correctness and shaking down granny than in boosting its ability to respond to real threats.


19 posted on 03/21/2005 11:21:33 AM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: Shermy

"This is a big story. the anthrax killer is back."

"Doubt it."

Really?


20 posted on 03/21/2005 11:22:07 AM PST by Inkognitow
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To: RBroadfoot

"Homeland Security seems much more interested in political correctness and shaking down granny than in boosting its ability to respond to real threats."

Homeland Security may be out of the anthrax loop and the FBI is playing it's cards very close to the chest.


21 posted on 03/21/2005 11:25:40 AM PST by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Shermy

Not sure what you mean. Because they've identified the same strain of anthrax that killed a handful of people in 2001 passed through three separate government facilities and an air force base, it means the contractor was sloppy?


22 posted on 03/21/2005 11:28:09 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Warning: may eat own)
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To: Inkognitow

"Really?"

Didn't the earlier stories say the problem was caused by the very same contractor who's being interviewed in this article, yet doesn't directly rebut?


23 posted on 03/21/2005 11:29:14 AM PST by Shermy
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To: Gene Vidocq
Is this the same strain as the "dark angel" or "fallen angel"...whoever that one was? I think he claimed to be a truck driver and he sent anthrax to the airport post office in Greenville SC
24 posted on 03/21/2005 11:29:27 AM PST by 4everontheRight ( "I'm learning to dread one day at a time" --- Charlie Brown)
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To: hellinahandcart; general_re; aculeus

Ya gotta love anthrax threads. Resurrection, multiple personality disorder, the works.


25 posted on 03/21/2005 11:30:20 AM PST by dighton
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To: Shermy

"Didn't the earlier stories say the problem was caused by the very same contractor who's being interviewed in this article, yet doesn't directly rebut?"


One must look at the BIG picture, Shermy.


26 posted on 03/21/2005 11:31:13 AM PST by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: 4everontheRight

"s this the same strain as the "dark angel" or "fallen angel"...whoever that one was? I think he claimed to be a truck driver and he sent anthrax to the airport post office in Greenville SC"


You're thinking RICIN. This also has not been solved.


27 posted on 03/21/2005 11:33:12 AM PST by Gene Vidocq (Damnation is the price he'll pay, for an evil man's desire.)
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To: Shermy

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45125-2005Mar17.html?nav=rss_nation/nationalsecurity

"The stockpile question arose as the Pentagon postponed the reopening of its Remote Delivery Facility until today. The center was closed Monday after a laboratory in Richmond, Consolidated Biotechnologies Inc., confirmed a positive anthrax result from a sensor filter, a finding since discredited by senior military officials as a likely result of lab contamination."

Now the current article has the accused contractor invoking the "same strain" verbiage to elicit excitement. Simple question: is that the strain they calibrate with? Since he soen't say anything, the answer is probably "yes."

I think it's a bureaucracy blunder, nothing to do with 2001. Could be proven wrong, naturally.


28 posted on 03/21/2005 11:34:41 AM PST by Shermy
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To: Gene Vidocq

Dang! You're right! Man! I'm getting my terrorism all mixed up!!


29 posted on 03/21/2005 11:35:15 AM PST by 4everontheRight ( "I'm learning to dread one day at a time" --- Charlie Brown)
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To: dighton

You forgot numerological obsession with calendar dates in history.

;-)


30 posted on 03/21/2005 11:35:47 AM PST by Shermy
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To: dighton; aculeus; hellinahandcart

Hey, this is just like that other thing! Boy, those terrorists are mighty crafty, I tell ya...


31 posted on 03/21/2005 11:36:55 AM PST by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: Rutles4Ever

#28 was for you.

I'll add the reporter might not be up on all the details. I thought the most shocking thing was that the tests went through not one but two private contractors until the Feds were notified. ON the face that doesn't sound good to me.


32 posted on 03/21/2005 11:38:38 AM PST by Shermy
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To: Gene Vidocq
Two labs confirmed Pentagon anthrax...

(I just couldn't resist. Not with
an opening line like that!-YD)

33 posted on 03/21/2005 11:44:18 AM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: maestro

Thanks for the ping!


34 posted on 03/21/2005 11:47:06 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Shermy

I'm not sure this is spin. I don't think the CEO of this company would make such a strong statement unless he was 100% certain that his facility did not contaminate the sample. He has too much to lose. Perhaps his facility doesn't even hold Ames - if that's the case then it's a certainty his facility did not contaminate the sample.


35 posted on 03/21/2005 11:50:29 AM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: Shermy
.....I'll add the reporter might not be up on all the details. I thought the most shocking thing was that the tests went through not one but two private contractors until the Feds were notified. ON the face that doesn't sound good to me.

?.......the Islamic-French Labs have got to test it FIRST?

:-(

36 posted on 03/21/2005 11:51:00 AM PST by maestro
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To: Gene Vidocq
Will someone please just hang the Anthrax guy and everyone he cares about!
37 posted on 03/21/2005 11:55:02 AM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods,Shop at Wal-Mart)
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To: 4everontheRight

"Dang! You're right! Man! I'm getting my terrorism all mixed up!!"

Perhaps not. Different attack substances do not necessarily rule out a single "terrorist".


38 posted on 03/21/2005 11:55:42 AM PST by Inkognitow
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To: yankeedame

LOL!:)


39 posted on 03/21/2005 11:57:47 AM PST by Inkognitow
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To: maestro

I'm confused.


40 posted on 03/21/2005 12:01:33 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Shermy

"I'll add the reporter might not be up on all the details."

Divis is not exactly a cub reporter.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Dee+Ann+Divis&btnG=Google+Search


41 posted on 03/21/2005 12:02:35 PM PST by Inkognitow
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To: TrebleRebel

"I'm not sure this is spin."

Concur.


42 posted on 03/21/2005 12:04:27 PM PST by Inkognitow
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To: TrebleRebel

Hmm...I caught myself in an assumption the govt. is right...ponds...turtle traps...

I'll keep an open mind on this one.


43 posted on 03/21/2005 12:04:54 PM PST by Shermy
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To: TrebleRebel

"Perhaps his facility doesn't even hold Ames"

If it doesn't...then that's big news.


44 posted on 03/21/2005 12:07:16 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Gene Vidocq

I thought this was a double negative. We really do need a reliable blogger over at the Pentagon.


45 posted on 03/21/2005 12:08:12 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: Shermy
"The contractor is in mass CYA mode."

There were four "automated alerts" at four different mail facilities. Those 4 alerts were direct from sensors, not from contractor tests (which came later).

Those 4 alerts followed the path of the Pentagon's mail system (i.e. what one would expect from cross-contamination of mail as it passed through post offices).

Your point about contractor contamination only comes into play with the sample swabs that were taken and handled later, long *after* the initial automated alerts had been sounded.

What triggered the automated sensors, however, was *clearly* something in the mail, as the four different sensors at 4 different sites were triggered in order with the mail flow.

46 posted on 03/21/2005 12:10:39 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Inkognitow

This is some HEAVY SH#*!


47 posted on 03/21/2005 12:11:55 PM PST by Elmo Lincoln
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To: Southack

Interesting. I'll keep an open mind.


48 posted on 03/21/2005 12:13:51 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Yup, that's what we really need to know. Hope someone will ask him soon.
This is just speculation, but perhaps that's the reason this CEO felt confident enough to make the rather bold statement he made today. When he found out it was Ames, he knew he had to be off the hook. Of course, I could be wrong.


49 posted on 03/21/2005 12:14:14 PM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: TomGuy; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone; Carry_Okie; Southack; BOBTHENAILER
"Government at work. Don't you feel safer?"

Oh the tradegy/commedy mixed with a monstrous helping of terrible irony!!!

WARNING: GOVERNMENT MAY BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH!
AVOID INHALING LIKE EX-POTUS CLINTON DID!!!

50 posted on 03/21/2005 12:17:10 PM PST by SierraWasp (GovernMental EnvironMental Parasitic Pissants perpetually tormenting America Progress!!!)
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