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Hillary Clinton gets it
Intern. Herald Tribune/The New York Times ^
| March 17, 2005
| Nicholas D. Kristof
Posted on 03/18/2005 11:44:21 AM PST by yoe
NEW YORK If the Democratic Party wants to figure out how to win national elections again, it has an unexpected guide: Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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. [snip]The first lesson Clinton is demonstrating is the need to talk much more openly about God and prayer. That resonates in a country where a Pew poll found that 60 percent of Americans pray at least once a day.
. [snip]"I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently.
. [snip]Democrats are usually more comfortable talking about sex than God. But that doesn't work in a country where 70 percent say that "presidents should have strong religious beliefs."
. [snip]The Democratic Party commits seppuku in the heartland by coming across as indifferent to people's doubts about abortions or even as pro-abortion. ...
. . . [snip]Clinton is also hard to dismiss as a screechy obstructionist .
[snip]The makeover is working with New York state voters. Clinton has an approval rating in the state of 69 percent, according to a New York Times poll.
. [snip]In small towns like Yamhill, any candidate from New York carries a lot of baggage, and Clinton more than most. Moreover, television magnifies her emotional reserve and turns her into a frost queen. Clinton's negative ratings nationally were around 40 percent at last count, and Hillary-hating thrives.
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Is this then "The Big Adventure of Hillary's Makeover?" Algore's Misadventure of Makeovers did not bode well with the voters nor will this up and down hem length for Hillary. Americans recognize real people and basically want the same in politicians. The time of dressing up for the vote is passé only the real person need apply
that leaves Mrs. Clinton out
regardless of her costume of the day approach.
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:44:23 AM PST
by
yoe
To: yoe
The makeover is working with New York state votersNews flash....New York AIN'T MIDDLE AMERICA
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:46:00 AM PST
by
Puppage
(You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
To: yoe
"Ive always been a praying person you FJB."
To: yoe
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:47:17 AM PST
by
Fudd Fan
(MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
To: yoe
Hillary Clinton gets it . . . "Ha! Ha! She doesn't from me!"
To: Puppage
A New Yorker will never carry the SOUTH.
To: DainBramage
She probably prayed to satan, they both have much in common.NSNR
To: yoe
The first lesson Clinton is demonstrating is the need to talk much more openly about God and prayer.Get this from a few days ago!
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Forget her prepared speeches, put aside her moderate statements on Iraq and abortion. This is how you know she's running for president in 2008. Ten days ago a reporter interviewed her in the halls of the Senate (another kind of cloister) and asked if she planned to run for president. She did not say, "I'm too busy serving the people of New York to think about the future." She did not say, "Oh, I already have a heckuva lot on my plate." She said, "I have more than I can say grace over right now." ---- Noonan
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/
How sick and low of Hillary to put it that way, eh?
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:48:32 AM PST
by
beyond the sea
(Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
To: Mark in the Old South
...New Yorker? by way of Arkansas
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:48:56 AM PST
by
Fudd Fan
(MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
To: yoe
To: yoe
It's an interesting article, which poses the following question: Can you win a national election by pretending to be someone that you are not?
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:49:11 AM PST
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: Puppage
News flash....New York AIN'T MIDDLE AMERICAOutside of NYC it is.
To: yoe
Here's some news for the NY Slimes: Hitlery Clinton is not getting my vote. Ever. I don't care if she divorces Bill, starts attending Jerry Falwell's church, and gets baptized in the River Jordan.
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:50:11 AM PST
by
Recovering_Democrat
(I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
To: yoe
Makeover by: Queer Eye For The Presidency
To: yoe
I still can't believe the best candidate the Democrats can come up with is Hillary Clinton. Ridiculous.
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:50:33 AM PST
by
LiveBait
To: yoe
More of the TRULY faithful are praying she doesn't get the nomination or win in 2008. If there is one thing she does get....it's the meaning of the word duplicity.
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:50:56 AM PST
by
edpc
To: LiveBait
well they came up with Kerry in '04... talk about not being the best. There is precedent, is all I'm sayin'
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:52:02 AM PST
by
Fudd Fan
(MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
To: yoe
What a liar....she's a butch....Americans' don't won't a lesbian as our president....
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:52:03 AM PST
by
shield
(The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
To: shield
"Americans' don't won't a lesbian as our president..."
well not THAT lesbian anyway.
Seriously, does anyone think there will be someone with the -ahem- courage to bring that subject up, should she be the nominee? It would make things interesting.
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:54:27 AM PST
by
Fudd Fan
(MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
To: yoe
No! Hillary doesn't get it!
Hillary still does not know that the RED states DON'T BELIEVE HER. And .. even if she dumped her husband - we still wouldn't believe her.
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:55:05 AM PST
by
CyberAnt
(President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
To: edpc
How can anybody accept that she has changed completely today, but will not change back the day after Election Day, 2008?
One nice thing about a Hillary! Presidency is that the 'Pubbies would take every single available seat in the 2010 mid-term election.
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:55:26 AM PST
by
gridlock
(ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
To: CyberAnt
she could sing W's praises constantly, kiss his cheek, make nice with Repubs, whatever.. and I'd still never vote for her
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:56:21 AM PST
by
Fudd Fan
(MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
To: Fudd Fan
ooops... so sorry to wish that on W
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:57:29 AM PST
by
Fudd Fan
(MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
To: Rodney King
LOL.......isn't that how most politicians win??????
To: yoe
I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently.
Lord, we JUST pray that you would JUST like, JUST really JUST totally save Bills POS ass one more time and JUST give me the same opportunity you gave my scumbag husband.
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posted on
03/18/2005 11:59:09 AM PST
by
hflynn
To: beyond the sea
They think we are that stupid. They will never get it.
We answer to a Higher authority, we don't just talk about it.
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:00:57 PM PST
by
Search4Truth
(When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
To: NorCalRepub
LOL.......isn't that how most politicians win?????? Well, it's a matter of degree. Reagan, W, Bush 41, and even BJ Clinton are all basically the people that they claimed to be. What is being proposed as the fix for the dems is for them to pretend to be the complete opposite of what they really are.
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:01:25 PM PST
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: yoe
agree....I don't subscript to "the Politics/flavor on the Month" Club...
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:01:45 PM PST
by
skinkinthegrass
(Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
To: yoe
"Abortions fell steadily under Bill Clinton, who espoused that position, and have increased significantly during President Bush's presidency."
The Left lies effortlessly.
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:02:01 PM PST
by
Southack
(Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
To: yoe
"The Big Adventure of Hillary's Makeover?"
Which one? She has had so many makeovers, I don't think even she knows who she is. Wife? Mother? Cookie baker? Lawyer? ad hoc POTUS? Feminist? Pro-abortion? Anti-abortion? Stock trader? Senator? Moderate? Socialist? Long hair? Short hair? Anti-military? Pro-military? Makes my head spin!! I would never vote for her or any other dem/lib/socialist. None of them have any core values (except, of course Zell Miller). They just blow whichever way the wind is blowing and say whatever is expedient to the particular audience.
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:04:22 PM PST
by
Polyxene
(For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
To: yoe
Ugly still goes straight to the bone regardless of makeover.
Hitlary is still Hitlary no matter what she says or how many plastic surgeries she has or how much she stays away from ther girlfriends.
She is a third way socialist. She will appoint socialists to the court, feminists to the UN and an assortment of freaks to her cabinet and bureacratic positions.
To: Rodney King
haha....I know, just kidding.....most vacillate with the truth but her and Kerry toss around like ships in high seas only she does it better than Kerry cause she knows she doesn't have to worry about her base too much
To: Rodney King
Can you win a national election by pretending to be someone that you are not?..scum Jimah Carter and Bubba Klintoon DID. :^(
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:05:31 PM PST
by
skinkinthegrass
(Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
To: yoe
If Hillary Klinton has it, only penicillin will cure it.
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:05:32 PM PST
by
RetiredArmy
(Ted Kennedy is a democrat. Democrats are the enemy. Destroy your enemies.)
To: Fudd Fan
I do not recall she ever ran for office in AK.
To: Fudd Fan
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:06:02 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
(President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
To: DainBramage
"Ive always been a praying person you FJB." LOL!
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:06:27 PM PST
by
KC_Conspirator
(This space outsourced to India)
To: Rodney King
Can you win a national election by pretending to be someone that you are not?..scum Jimah Carter and Bubba Klintoon DID..still doesn't explain Bubba's 2nd term though. :^((
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:07:17 PM PST
by
skinkinthegrass
(Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
To: yoe; All
NEW YORK "If the Democratic Party wants to figure out how to win national elections again, it has an unexpected guide: Hillary Rodham Clinton."
Don't be a CINO (Conservative in Name Only)
Don't listen to CINO's in politics,
the Main Stream CINO media,
and even here on Free Republic.
EXPOSE the traitor for what he really is, The Enemy Within.
Don't listen to CINO's who want to "move on".
And tell you "get over it Kerry lost"
"Kerry is finished."
He's NOT finished!
And remember this.
All it will take is for Clinton to have more problems with her health
to guarantee that Kerry WILL run in '08.
Remember all who told you not to worry about klintoon, hitlery and reno
after the 2000 election?
Remember all who said Ashcroft would prosecute them.
Remember Chinagate, Pardongate, Waco, Vince Foster, the Jewish town in NY etc., etc., etc. ?
Well reno ran against Jeb Bush and hitlery wants to beat Hanoi Kerry in 08
Are YOU willing to listen to the CINO's again?
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:07:36 PM PST
by
68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
(Be wary of the "Move On " FReepers. They want to give Hanoi Kerry a free pass? mmmm WHY?)
To: yoe
Yep, and she can position herself as the Mother of the Nation all she wants. We have sound bites, we have sound clips and we have her whole "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" that was out to get Billy BJ....
And more than that, we need to bring out Billy Dale, whom she and her husband hounded for the Travel Office scandal, all the way through the courts, and which a jury took 45 minutes to acquit, although attorneys' fees cost him his life savings defending himself against trumped up charges (for which Janet Reno should have been booted right then and there).
Yeah, Hiliary, keep trying. You ain't foolin' no one.
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:10:27 PM PST
by
Right Cal Gal
(Armed, Female and Southern!)
To: yoe
Alinsky taught her well.
Go for the middle. Get the power. Doesn't matter how.
The only thing that baffles me is why anyone believes anything she says. She is a values-neutral, morally relative chimera who is concerned with only 2 things -- Hillary Clinton and power.
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:11:49 PM PST
by
spodefly
(This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
To: DainBramage
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:12:17 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: RetiredArmy
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:13:08 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: yoe
The title of this article is dead wrong. It reads, "Hillary Clinton Gets It." The correct title is, "Hillary Clinton Gets the Need to Fake It." She reads enough polls to know what she must pretend to be, to have a chance to be elected.
Some additional thoughts on how Hillary! fits into this tissue of deception are in my column this week. Click below.
Congressman Billybob
Latest column, "Condi Rice & Pierce Flanigan's Father's Hat"
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:15:36 PM PST
by
Congressman Billybob
(Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
To: mountaineer
Sorry, I did check first - must have not have seen it......but then exposing Mx. Clinton more than she exposes herself is right much fun......
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:16:36 PM PST
by
yoe
To: yoe
"Is this then "The Big Adventure of Hillary's Makeover?" " At the NYTimes "All the Fawning Lies About Hillary That Will Fit"TM every article is part of the Hillary makeover.
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:28:06 PM PST
by
mrsmith
To: TexasCajun; yoe
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posted on
03/18/2005 12:29:27 PM PST
by
Tuba Guy
(Imagine Hillareah in the White House and BJ in the UN.....they do)
To: yoe
I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently... [snip] The entire quote is:
"I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently... "I've long prayed that Bill's penis would drop off..."[snip]
"I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently. Uh, minor typo in that statement:
That is "PREYING" not praying.
To: yoe
I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recentlyShe's always been a lot of things.
Ask Juanita Broderick what she is.
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