Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Hillary Clinton gets it
Intern. Herald Tribune/The New York Times ^ | March 17, 2005 | Nicholas D. Kristof

Posted on 03/18/2005 11:44:21 AM PST by yoe

NEW YORK If the Democratic Party wants to figure out how to win national elections again, it has an unexpected guide: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

.

. [snip]The first lesson Clinton is demonstrating is the need to talk much more openly about God and prayer. That resonates in a country where a Pew poll found that 60 percent of Americans pray at least once a day.

. [snip]"I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently.

. [snip]Democrats are usually more comfortable talking about sex than God. But that doesn't work in a country where 70 percent say that "presidents should have strong religious beliefs."

. [snip]The Democratic Party commits seppuku in the heartland by coming across as indifferent to people's doubts about abortions or even as pro-abortion. ...

. . . [snip]Clinton is also hard to dismiss as a screechy obstructionist .

[snip]The makeover is working with New York state voters. Clinton has an approval rating in the state of 69 percent, according to a New York Times poll.

. [snip]In small towns like Yamhill, any candidate from New York carries a lot of baggage, and Clinton more than most. Moreover, television magnifies her emotional reserve and turns her into a frost queen. Clinton's negative ratings nationally were around 40 percent at last count, and Hillary-hating thrives.

.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alert; all; arkansasmafia; cattlefutures; frostqueen; godisnotmycopilot; hillary; hillaryandgod; intheass; iwilldoanythingtowin; mena; obstructionist; piaps; porkfutures; prayfaker; roselawfirm; shepraystogodmyass; state; valuesvote; whitewater; yamhill
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-79 next last
Is this then "The Big Adventure of Hillary's Makeover?" Algore's Misadventure of Makeovers did not bode well with the voters nor will this up and down hem length for Hillary. Americans recognize real people and basically want the same in politicians. The time of ‘dressing up’ for the vote is passé™ – only the real person need apply…that leaves Mrs. Clinton out…regardless of her ‘costume of the day’ approach.
1 posted on 03/18/2005 11:44:23 AM PST by yoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: yoe
The makeover is working with New York state voters

News flash....New York AIN'T MIDDLE AMERICA

2 posted on 03/18/2005 11:46:00 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe

"Ive always been a praying person you FJB."


3 posted on 03/18/2005 11:46:37 AM PST by DainBramage
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe

oh gag me


4 posted on 03/18/2005 11:47:17 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe
Hillary Clinton gets it . . .

"Ha! Ha! She doesn't from me!"


5 posted on 03/18/2005 11:47:43 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Puppage

A New Yorker will never carry the SOUTH.


6 posted on 03/18/2005 11:48:00 AM PST by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: DainBramage

She probably prayed to satan, they both have much in common.NSNR


7 posted on 03/18/2005 11:48:20 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: yoe
The first lesson Clinton is demonstrating is the need to talk much more openly about God and prayer.

Get this from a few days ago!

***

Forget her prepared speeches, put aside her moderate statements on Iraq and abortion. This is how you know she's running for president in 2008. Ten days ago a reporter interviewed her in the halls of the Senate (another kind of cloister) and asked if she planned to run for president. She did not say, "I'm too busy serving the people of New York to think about the future." She did not say, "Oh, I already have a heckuva lot on my plate." She said, "I have more than I can say grace over right now." ---- Noonan

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/

How sick and low of Hillary to put it that way, eh?

8 posted on 03/18/2005 11:48:32 AM PST by beyond the sea (Colonial Script........... or nationalize The Federal Bank..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mark in the Old South

...New Yorker? by way of Arkansas


9 posted on 03/18/2005 11:48:56 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: yoe
PREVIOUSLY POSTED.
10 posted on 03/18/2005 11:49:06 AM PST by mountaineer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe

It's an interesting article, which poses the following question: Can you win a national election by pretending to be someone that you are not?


11 posted on 03/18/2005 11:49:11 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Puppage
News flash....New York AIN'T MIDDLE AMERICA

Outside of NYC it is.

12 posted on 03/18/2005 11:49:15 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: yoe
Here's some news for the NY Slimes: Hitlery Clinton is not getting my vote. Ever. I don't care if she divorces Bill, starts attending Jerry Falwell's church, and gets baptized in the River Jordan.
13 posted on 03/18/2005 11:50:11 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe
Makeover by: Queer Eye For The Presidency
14 posted on 03/18/2005 11:50:25 AM PST by TexasCajun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe

I still can't believe the best candidate the Democrats can come up with is Hillary Clinton. Ridiculous.


15 posted on 03/18/2005 11:50:33 AM PST by LiveBait
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe

More of the TRULY faithful are praying she doesn't get the nomination or win in 2008. If there is one thing she does get....it's the meaning of the word duplicity.


16 posted on 03/18/2005 11:50:56 AM PST by edpc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LiveBait

well they came up with Kerry in '04... talk about not being the best. There is precedent, is all I'm sayin'


17 posted on 03/18/2005 11:52:02 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: yoe

What a liar....she's a butch....Americans' don't won't a lesbian as our president....


18 posted on 03/18/2005 11:52:03 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: shield

"Americans' don't won't a lesbian as our president..."

well not THAT lesbian anyway.
Seriously, does anyone think there will be someone with the -ahem- courage to bring that subject up, should she be the nominee? It would make things interesting.


19 posted on 03/18/2005 11:54:27 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: yoe

No! Hillary doesn't get it!

Hillary still does not know that the RED states DON'T BELIEVE HER. And .. even if she dumped her husband - we still wouldn't believe her.


20 posted on 03/18/2005 11:55:05 AM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: edpc
How can anybody accept that she has changed completely today, but will not change back the day after Election Day, 2008?

One nice thing about a Hillary! Presidency is that the 'Pubbies would take every single available seat in the 2010 mid-term election.

21 posted on 03/18/2005 11:55:26 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: CyberAnt

she could sing W's praises constantly, kiss his cheek, make nice with Repubs, whatever.. and I'd still never vote for her


22 posted on 03/18/2005 11:56:21 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Fudd Fan

ooops... so sorry to wish that on W


23 posted on 03/18/2005 11:57:29 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Rodney King

LOL.......isn't that how most politicians win??????


24 posted on 03/18/2005 11:58:21 AM PST by NorCalRepub
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: yoe
I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently.

Lord, we JUST pray that you would JUST like, JUST really JUST totally save Bills POS ass one more time and JUST give me the same opportunity you gave my scumbag husband.

25 posted on 03/18/2005 11:59:09 AM PST by hflynn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: beyond the sea

They think we are that stupid. They will never get it.

We answer to a Higher authority, we don't just talk about it.


26 posted on 03/18/2005 12:00:57 PM PST by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: NorCalRepub
LOL.......isn't that how most politicians win??????

Well, it's a matter of degree. Reagan, W, Bush 41, and even BJ Clinton are all basically the people that they claimed to be. What is being proposed as the fix for the dems is for them to pretend to be the complete opposite of what they really are.

27 posted on 03/18/2005 12:01:25 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: yoe
agree....I don't subscript to "the Politics/flavor on the Month" Club...
28 posted on 03/18/2005 12:01:45 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe
"Abortions fell steadily under Bill Clinton, who espoused that position, and have increased significantly during President Bush's presidency."

The Left lies effortlessly.

29 posted on 03/18/2005 12:02:01 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe

"The Big Adventure of Hillary's Makeover?"

Which one? She has had so many makeovers, I don't think even she knows who she is. Wife? Mother? Cookie baker? Lawyer? ad hoc POTUS? Feminist? Pro-abortion? Anti-abortion? Stock trader? Senator? Moderate? Socialist? Long hair? Short hair? Anti-military? Pro-military? Makes my head spin!! I would never vote for her or any other dem/lib/socialist. None of them have any core values (except, of course Zell Miller). They just blow whichever way the wind is blowing and say whatever is expedient to the particular audience.


30 posted on 03/18/2005 12:04:22 PM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe

Ugly still goes straight to the bone regardless of makeover.

Hitlary is still Hitlary no matter what she says or how many plastic surgeries she has or how much she stays away from ther girlfriends.

She is a third way socialist. She will appoint socialists to the court, feminists to the UN and an assortment of freaks to her cabinet and bureacratic positions.


31 posted on 03/18/2005 12:04:38 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rodney King
haha....I know, just kidding.....most vacillate with the truth but her and Kerry toss around like ships in high seas only she does it better than Kerry cause she knows she doesn't have to worry about her base too much
32 posted on 03/18/2005 12:04:55 PM PST by NorCalRepub
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Rodney King
Can you win a national election by pretending to be someone that you are not?

..scum Jimah Carter and Bubba Klintoon DID. :^(

33 posted on 03/18/2005 12:05:31 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: yoe
If Hillary Klinton has it, only penicillin will cure it.
34 posted on 03/18/2005 12:05:32 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Ted Kennedy is a democrat. Democrats are the enemy. Destroy your enemies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Fudd Fan

I do not recall she ever ran for office in AK.


35 posted on 03/18/2005 12:05:51 PM PST by Mark in the Old South (Sister Lucia of Fatima pray for us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Fudd Fan

I'm in total agreement!


36 posted on 03/18/2005 12:06:02 PM PST by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: DainBramage
"Ive always been a praying person you FJB."

LOL!

37 posted on 03/18/2005 12:06:27 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Rodney King
Can you win a national election by pretending to be someone that you are not?

..scum Jimah Carter and Bubba Klintoon DID..still doesn't explain Bubba's 2nd term though. :^((

38 posted on 03/18/2005 12:07:17 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: yoe; All
NEW YORK "If the Democratic Party wants to figure out how to win national elections again, it has an unexpected guide: Hillary Rodham Clinton."

Don't be a CINO (Conservative in Name Only)
Don't listen to CINO's in politics,
the Main Stream CINO media,
and even here on Free Republic.
EXPOSE the traitor for what he really is, The Enemy Within.

Don't listen to CINO's who want to "move on".
And tell you "get over it Kerry lost"
"Kerry is finished."
He's NOT finished!

And remember this.

All it will take is for Clinton to have more problems with her health
to guarantee that Kerry WILL run in '08.

Remember all who told you not to worry about klintoon, hitlery and reno
after the 2000 election?
Remember all who said Ashcroft would prosecute them.
Remember Chinagate, Pardongate, Waco, Vince Foster, the Jewish town in NY etc., etc., etc. ?
Well reno ran against Jeb Bush and hitlery wants to beat Hanoi Kerry in 08

Are YOU willing to listen to the CINO's again?

39 posted on 03/18/2005 12:07:36 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Be wary of the "Move On " FReepers. They want to give Hanoi Kerry a free pass? mmmm WHY?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe

Yep, and she can position herself as the Mother of the Nation all she wants. We have sound bites, we have sound clips and we have her whole "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" that was out to get Billy BJ....

And more than that, we need to bring out Billy Dale, whom she and her husband hounded for the Travel Office scandal, all the way through the courts, and which a jury took 45 minutes to acquit, although attorneys' fees cost him his life savings defending himself against trumped up charges (for which Janet Reno should have been booted right then and there).

Yeah, Hiliary, keep trying. You ain't foolin' no one.


40 posted on 03/18/2005 12:10:27 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Armed, Female and Southern!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe

Alinsky taught her well.

Go for the middle. Get the power. Doesn't matter how.

The only thing that baffles me is why anyone believes anything she says. She is a values-neutral, morally relative chimera who is concerned with only 2 things -- Hillary Clinton and power.


41 posted on 03/18/2005 12:11:49 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DainBramage

"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Rodham Clinton June 2004
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/06/28/politics2238EDT0845.DTL


42 posted on 03/18/2005 12:12:17 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RetiredArmy

43 posted on 03/18/2005 12:13:08 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: yoe
The title of this article is dead wrong. It reads, "Hillary Clinton Gets It." The correct title is, "Hillary Clinton Gets the Need to Fake It." She reads enough polls to know what she must pretend to be, to have a chance to be elected.

Some additional thoughts on how Hillary! fits into this tissue of deception are in my column this week. Click below.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Condi Rice & Pierce Flanigan's Father's Hat"

44 posted on 03/18/2005 12:15:36 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mountaineer

Sorry, I did check first - must have not have seen it......but then exposing Mx. Clinton more than she exposes herself is right much fun......


45 posted on 03/18/2005 12:16:36 PM PST by yoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: yoe
"Is this then "The Big Adventure of Hillary's Makeover?" "

At the NYTimes "All the Fawning Lies About Hillary That Will Fit"TM every article is part of the Hillary makeover.

46 posted on 03/18/2005 12:28:06 PM PST by mrsmith
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TexasCajun; yoe

47 posted on 03/18/2005 12:29:27 PM PST by Tuba Guy (Imagine Hillareah in the White House and BJ in the UN.....they do)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: yoe
I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently... [snip]

The entire quote is:

"I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently... "I've long prayed that Bill's penis would drop off..."[snip]

48 posted on 03/18/2005 12:34:52 PM PST by pabianice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

"I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently.

Uh, minor typo in that statement:

That is "PREYING" not praying.

49 posted on 03/18/2005 12:35:49 PM PST by LegendHasIt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yoe
I've always been a praying person," Clinton declared recently

She's always been a lot of things.

Ask Juanita Broderick what she is.

50 posted on 03/18/2005 12:46:15 PM PST by Tom Bombadil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-79 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson