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Limits on military recruiting proposed
Santa Cruz Sentinel ^ | 3/13/05 | Jeff Tobin

Posted on 03/13/2005 1:47:26 PM PST by traderrob6

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To: bahblahbah
"They could use every piece of information on these students in a database and mine it for those most prone for joining the military."

Good! I hope the can suggest a service and MOS while they’re at it.

If someone feel that’s too much of a burden for having us pay for their education, they’re free to reject our money.

21 posted on 03/13/2005 2:15:20 PM PST by elfman2
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To: dakine

Each student's family can ask for that info to be withheld, but it will be withheld from all recruiters.

Do you have any proble with trade schools, colleges and universities having directory information?

Or should only military recruiters be denied that information?

Recruiting is REQUIRED by Congress. I'm sure that you'd prefer that a recruiter have directory information than having a draft.


22 posted on 03/13/2005 2:15:58 PM PST by Eagle Eye (BTDT got the T shirt, shot glass, coffee mug, ball cap, shoulder patch, key chain, challenge coin...)
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To: dakine
"Nope...what other "price" you asking for next? All fed agencies having access?"

Don’t piss me off or I’ll have my thugs break down your door. We know all about you.

23 posted on 03/13/2005 2:16:58 PM PST by elfman2
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To: dakine
I don't think the recruiters should be given access to student's home information. If a student is interested in the military, they will be able to find the recruiter.

Yep. Asking the schools to be neutral would be a huge step in the right direction, as well. Allow the recruiters on to have their say, but keep the records closed.

24 posted on 03/13/2005 2:20:12 PM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Trade school, colleges, etc...the prospective student is an adult, minors are a different story...


25 posted on 03/13/2005 2:20:28 PM PST by dakine
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To: traderrob6
Left is going to do everything in their power to de-fang the US military and make war an impossibility.

The Left wants a war, it just doesn't want the United States to win it.

26 posted on 03/13/2005 2:20:50 PM PST by Vision Thing (The Surgeon General has determined that being Democrat is bad for your health.)
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To: Steel Wolf

Bravo...some are not consistent in how personal information should be allowed to be disseminated...


27 posted on 03/13/2005 2:23:02 PM PST by dakine
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To: dakine

Is your objection with any recruiters contacting high school students (trade school, college or university) or just the military recruiters?


28 posted on 03/13/2005 2:24:00 PM PST by Eagle Eye (BTDT got the T shirt, shot glass, coffee mug, ball cap, shoulder patch, key chain, challenge coin...)
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To: Steel Wolf

Current law allows access to directory information and recruiters are bound by Privacy Act statutes.

Any reason that a college recruiter should have directory information and a military recruiter should not?


29 posted on 03/13/2005 2:25:47 PM PST by Eagle Eye (BTDT got the T shirt, shot glass, coffee mug, ball cap, shoulder patch, key chain, challenge coin...)
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To: dakine

....I don't think the recruiters should be given access to student's home information....

So it's ok for coaches to bug jocks at home but unreasonable for military recruiters to offer jobs at home?

The military should be allowed all info that is public.


30 posted on 03/13/2005 2:28:30 PM PST by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: Eagle Eye

Recruiters have tough jobs (a good friend is an E-7/Gunny in charge of a recruiting district near Baltimore). I just think a student's personal information should remain private.


31 posted on 03/13/2005 2:29:19 PM PST by dakine
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"Trade school, colleges, etc...the prospective student is an adult, minors are a different story...",

Uh, trade schools and colleges start to contact high school students when they are minors. If "Hahvahd" wants to contact all of a schools National Merit Scholars (and they DO, because I got mailings from LOTS of colleges as a National Merit finalist), then so should the military be allowed to contact folks that might be interested in THEIR programs.

32 posted on 03/13/2005 2:29:20 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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"Yep. Asking the schools to be neutral would be a huge step in the right direction, as well."

The opportunity to be neutral was before accepting our funding.

33 posted on 03/13/2005 2:29:47 PM PST by elfman2
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To: Wonder Warthog

By being "merit scholar" you consented to allowing your information to colleges, etc...

All I'm saying is Fed Government/military should not have access to a minor's school records...


34 posted on 03/13/2005 2:32:21 PM PST by dakine
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To: dakine

You aren't really answering the question although reading between the lines you seem to think that high school students should be shielded from military recruiters.

Minor cannot sign any elnsitment agreements without parental consent, so where's your objection?


35 posted on 03/13/2005 2:32:28 PM PST by Eagle Eye (BTDT got the T shirt, shot glass, coffee mug, ball cap, shoulder patch, key chain, challenge coin...)
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To: traderrob6

Let's apply Honda's reasoning to parental consent laws for abortions involving minors. He is anti-military to the core.


36 posted on 03/13/2005 2:34:43 PM PST by Modok
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To: Eagle Eye

No access to a minor's records...

And it is not "shielded" from military recruiting. Gee, a person would have to be pretty ah, um, 'slow' to not know the military is out there....


37 posted on 03/13/2005 2:36:18 PM PST by dakine
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To: traderrob6
I trust the military with personal information a hell of a lot more than the public schools political re-education camps.
38 posted on 03/13/2005 2:37:28 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Please leave a message after the burp....)
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To: smag999

Congratulations on your son's achievement. I'm in the USAF and it's good to see hard-chargers like him headed our way. I wish him continued success. I hope your younger son achieves his goal, too.


39 posted on 03/13/2005 2:41:41 PM PST by SIDENET
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

"trust the military with personal information a hell of a lot more than the public schools political re-education camps."

As do I


40 posted on 03/13/2005 2:43:33 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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