Posted on 03/05/2005 4:39:40 AM PST by Libloather
CLINTON: 'FIX IT, DON'T NIX IT' 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
President Bush hit the road for his Social Security overhaul in New Jersey yesterday while in New York, Sens. Chuck Schumer and Hillary Rodham Clinton painted Bush as a threat to the retirement program.
"I'm going to keep telling people we've got a problem until it sinks in, because we've got one," Bush said in Westfield. "The safety net has got a hole in it."
At Pace University, Clinton ran a "fix it, don't nix it" rally where Schumer told of a time before Social Security when seniors ate cat food.
I'm sure Chuckie Cheese, born in 1950, was an eyewitness to seniors eating cat food prior to 1935.
I wonder if there was even such a thing as cat food before 1935.
Sounds like Hellery has Jesse writing for her now...
Clinton had a chance to fix it, and he nixed it. Rejected the recommendations of his own Blue Ribbon Social Security Commission, which was chaired by liberal icon Edward Gramlich, and recommended private accounts.
Web search turns up 1958 date for inventiuon of cat food.
Yes
It was called meeces. ;)
Clinton is just a little off, that's all. She should have said dog food. Those of you who remember Jackie Cooper in the Our Gang flicks may remember a few references to such a tasty diet among the not so well off.
My parents and grandparents never told me that anyone ate cat food before socialist security-they told me that that people saved their money, worked instead of "retiring" and buying a motor home and families took responsibility and care of disabled or ill relatives instead of tossing them into a "nursing home" and expecting the government to care for them.
And I seem to remember I was also told that pet food is a rather recent invention-Shumer is drinking too much koolaid again.
That's terrible!
Aren't they supposed to eat DOG food?
(Ba da bing....)
Dan
Did they tell you some rural people during the depression era lived in caves and ate possum, because they had no jobs to earn that money your parents and grandparents so frugally saved?
Considering how expensive pet food is these days, they would probably get off cheaper eating frozen dinners and ground beef...
My grandparents were small-time ranchers who were only marginally middle class and did not have electricity until I was 5. During the depression Texas was still mostly rural-I wish it would have stayed that way. And in the rural areas here deer, squirrel and possum have always been eaten-some of the people who live in this rural community still consider squirrel and possum something good to eat (no, I'm not one of them). No one in my family is wealthy, nor have they ever been.
The Democrats are so far out of the main stream of America i don't see how the people can keep voting for them.
"fix it, don't nix it"
I thought that's what they were doing Clinton. I don't hear anyone saying, "do away with Social Security", I hear they say, "let's fix it".
I, too, wish it were still so. There was a time, not so long ago, when we still had cattle grazing in open fields. Now, there are houses for as far as you can drive in an hour.
. . . some of the people who live in this rural community still consider squirrel and possum something good to eat (no, I'm not one of them).
I don't mind squirrel. Shot em, skinned em, ate em. But, possum? That is a nasty creature best left out of my cook pot.
The year 1935, same as SS enactment, comes up for Ralston Purina and Evanger's Dog & Cat Food Company, Inc.
Schumer was once again selling the big lie.
Never had possum but have eaten deer, squirrel,rabbit,raccoon and woodchucks.
All are pretty good if done right.
What did the Dimms propose?
Higher taxes, lower benefits, extend the retirement age to 80 years. Problem solved. They are right, there is no social security crisis, it is just that some people will live too long. The demonRATs are going to promote smoking, unprotected gay sex, drinking while driving, invading china, free crack and meth and suicide clinics as a method of conrolling the aging population.
I like it when Rush goes back and plays Clinton, Gore, and all the other Demoncrats saying over and over back in the 1990s that Soc. Sec. NEEDED to be FIXED and NOW! and when I found out that FDR never meant for it to be the welfare plan/ponzi scam it is, I was really pi$$3d!
The old ranches in my family are still small family operations lived on and run by my cousins, and are not for sale to developers or anyone else.
We live in an area of acreage lots on what was "throwaway land" on a huge ranch-the land is exposed bedrock in places and useless for growing crops or grazing stock, but it is on a bluff above water and has a beautiful view. The usable part of the ranch is at the end of our road and still operated by the family that has owned it for over 100 years.
We lived in the city for years and hated it-we finally decided to build a house out here, sell the one in the city and bite the bullet on the 40 mile drive to work-we have no regrets.
Deer and rabbit are fine to eat-I'm a deer hunter myself-but not the rest of that stuff. I do like the occassional grilled rattlesnake though...
Has anyone mentioned that senior citizens of the USA is the wealthiest demographic in the world and that 85% of social security payouts go for greens fees, bingo, and trips to Vegas? It would be interesting to throw that bit of truth into this dishonest mess.
Mice and rats and if they were really good, an occasional bowl of milk.
The Social Security System contributions are estimated to be $575 biilon for 2005, paying out $515 billion for the same year. The federal government will "borrow" the $60 billion surplus and spend it. They've been doing this for over 40 years now. I want to know how much the federal government now owes the system after 4 decades of this.
If there will have to be deficit spending as the cost to implementing SS reform this spending can applied to the debt the government owes to the system. Besides there being no actual money there, what's wrong with my thinking.
When we didn't have no crawdad we ate dirt.
Hey, is that be you, Bubba Gump?
From - http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html
Q23: Was the original Social Security program designed to be self-supporting?
A: Yes. In fact the actuaries estimated the program would have a $47 billion reserve by 1980, and the Trust Fund balance hit $46 billion in 1974. However, the reserve declined after that so that the balance stood at only $26 billion in 1980. (Today the Trust Fund reserves are over $1 trillion.)
Over a trillion dollars is oewd the SS system. I have heard NO ONE mention this when wondering where the cost of transition will come from.
I think more and more people are on to the Dems. Last night, Fox News showed Schumer demanding that oil be released from the SPR. BUT, Fox News showed the room where Schumer made this demand. It was virtually empty - maybe one or two reporters. When Schumer asked if anyone had questions - there was NOT ONE question. Schumer sort of shrunk and left the briefing. Funny as hell!
I'd call Schumer a moron but why insult the intelligence of morons.
The entire SPR is about 600 million barrels. Schumer usually proposes 20 - 30 million barrels be released. At the same time he is 1 of the most vocal Senators opposing ANWR drilling which would produce 10 - 16 billion barrels
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