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CLINTON: 'FIX IT, DON'T NIX IT' (Schumer: before Social Security seniors ate cat food)
Yahoo News ^ | 3/05/05

Posted on 03/05/2005 4:39:40 AM PST by Libloather

CLINTON: 'FIX IT, DON'T NIX IT' 2 hours, 53 minutes ago

President Bush hit the road for his Social Security overhaul in New Jersey yesterday — while in New York, Sens. Chuck Schumer and Hillary Rodham Clinton painted Bush as a threat to the retirement program.

"I'm going to keep telling people we've got a problem until it sinks in, because we've got one," Bush said in Westfield. "The safety net has got a hole in it."

At Pace University, Clinton ran a "fix it, don't nix it" rally where Schumer told of a time before Social Security when seniors ate cat food.


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KEYWORDS: ate; before; cat; chuck; dont; fixit; food; hillary; nixit; rats; rodhamclinton; schumer; security; securityseniors; seniors; social; socialsecurity
C-Span just aired the RAT pep rally. There was no Q&A session with the fellow RATS in the crowd...
1 posted on 03/05/2005 4:39:42 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Schumer told of a time before Social Security when seniors ate cat food.

I'm sure Chuckie Cheese, born in 1950, was an eyewitness to seniors eating cat food prior to 1935.

2 posted on 03/05/2005 4:51:52 AM PST by hflynn
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To: hflynn

I wonder if there was even such a thing as cat food before 1935.


3 posted on 03/05/2005 4:59:26 AM PST by Boston Tea Party
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To: Libloather

Sounds like Hellery has Jesse writing for her now...


4 posted on 03/05/2005 5:00:36 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Libloather

Clinton had a chance to fix it, and he nixed it. Rejected the recommendations of his own Blue Ribbon Social Security Commission, which was chaired by liberal icon Edward Gramlich, and recommended private accounts.


5 posted on 03/05/2005 5:04:49 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: hflynn

Web search turns up 1958 date for inventiuon of cat food.


6 posted on 03/05/2005 5:07:03 AM PST by Boston Tea Party
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To: Boston Tea Party
"I wonder if there was even such a thing as cat food before 1935."

Yes

It was called meeces. ;)

7 posted on 03/05/2005 5:08:05 AM PST by G.Mason ("If you are broken It is because you are brittle" ... K.Hepburn, The Lion In Winter)
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To: Boston Tea Party
Web search turns up 1958 date for inventiuon of cat food.

Clinton is just a little off, that's all.  She should have said dog food.  Those of you who remember Jackie Cooper in the Our Gang flicks may remember a few references to such a tasty diet among the not so well off.

8 posted on 03/05/2005 5:13:22 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Libloather
"Do as we say, not as we do!"
-Chuck Schumer, out burning one
and shooting a few rounds

9 posted on 03/05/2005 5:13:50 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: hflynn

My parents and grandparents never told me that anyone ate cat food before socialist security-they told me that that people saved their money, worked instead of "retiring" and buying a motor home and families took responsibility and care of disabled or ill relatives instead of tossing them into a "nursing home" and expecting the government to care for them.

And I seem to remember I was also told that pet food is a rather recent invention-Shumer is drinking too much koolaid again.


10 posted on 03/05/2005 5:14:23 AM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: Libloather

That's terrible!

Aren't they supposed to eat DOG food?

(Ba da bing....)

Dan


11 posted on 03/05/2005 5:17:41 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Texan5
My parents and grandparents never told me that anyone ate cat food before socialist security . . .

Did they tell you some rural people during the depression era lived in caves and ate possum, because they had no jobs to earn that money your parents and grandparents so frugally saved?

12 posted on 03/05/2005 5:19:04 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: BibChr

Considering how expensive pet food is these days, they would probably get off cheaper eating frozen dinners and ground beef...


13 posted on 03/05/2005 5:21:14 AM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: Racehorse

My grandparents were small-time ranchers who were only marginally middle class and did not have electricity until I was 5. During the depression Texas was still mostly rural-I wish it would have stayed that way. And in the rural areas here deer, squirrel and possum have always been eaten-some of the people who live in this rural community still consider squirrel and possum something good to eat (no, I'm not one of them). No one in my family is wealthy, nor have they ever been.


14 posted on 03/05/2005 5:28:51 AM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: Libloather

The Democrats are so far out of the main stream of America i don't see how the people can keep voting for them.


15 posted on 03/05/2005 5:42:33 AM PST by solo gringo (Liberal democrats are parasites)
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To: Libloather

"fix it, don't nix it"

I thought that's what they were doing Clinton. I don't hear anyone saying, "do away with Social Security", I hear they say, "let's fix it".


16 posted on 03/05/2005 5:47:49 AM PST by garylmoore (God Bless you W, you have prevailed.)
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To: Texan5
During the depression Texas was still mostly rural-I wish it would have stayed that way.

I, too, wish it were still so.  There was a time, not so long ago, when we still had cattle grazing in open fields.  Now, there are houses for as far as you can drive in an hour.

. . . some of the people who live in this rural community still consider squirrel and possum something good to eat (no, I'm not one of them).

I don't mind squirrel.  Shot em, skinned em, ate em.  But, possum?  That is a nasty creature best left out of my cook pot.

17 posted on 03/05/2005 5:48:01 AM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Boston Tea Party; Texan5
According to the Pet Food Institue (http://www.petfoodinstitute.org/what_is_history.cfm), canned cat food and dry meat-meal dog foods were introduced in the 1930s.

The year 1935, same as SS enactment, comes up for Ralston Purina and Evanger's Dog & Cat Food Company, Inc.

Schumer was once again selling the big lie.

18 posted on 03/05/2005 5:54:30 AM PST by hflynn
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To: Texan5
And in the rural areas here deer, squirrel and possum have always been eaten-some of the people who live in this rural community still consider squirrel and possum something good to eat

Never had possum but have eaten deer, squirrel,rabbit,raccoon and woodchucks.
All are pretty good if done right.

19 posted on 03/05/2005 5:57:43 AM PST by carlr
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To: Texan5
Exactly. My parents and grandparents would have told me if anybody had been eating pet food back then. Some of my family were of Russian descent, they talked about eating the pets themselves. Heck, they talked about eating iron. But pet food---no.
20 posted on 03/05/2005 6:03:07 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: Graymatter
This was cat food before cat food was invented. Rats...imagine that.


21 posted on 03/05/2005 6:51:00 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: Libloather
C-Span just aired the RAT pep rally.

What did the Dimms propose?

22 posted on 03/05/2005 6:54:58 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Higher taxes, lower benefits, extend the retirement age to 80 years. Problem solved. They are right, there is no social security crisis, it is just that some people will live too long. The demonRATs are going to promote smoking, unprotected gay sex, drinking while driving, invading china, free crack and meth and suicide clinics as a method of conrolling the aging population.


23 posted on 03/05/2005 8:12:13 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: Brilliant

I like it when Rush goes back and plays Clinton, Gore, and all the other Demoncrats saying over and over back in the 1990s that Soc. Sec. NEEDED to be FIXED and NOW! and when I found out that FDR never meant for it to be the welfare plan/ponzi scam it is, I was really pi$$3d!


24 posted on 03/05/2005 8:30:50 AM PST by buffyt (There is no limit to how far a man can go so long as he is willing to let someone else get the credi)
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To: Boston Tea Party
I wonder if there was even such a thing as cat food before 1935.

Maybe they were eating the CAT! C'mon Schumer, we're talking a few years post-depression here, who had money to purchase prepackaged pet food (if it was even available then, doubtful)? Maybe the Rockefeller's but not Ma and Pa Kettle... Chuckie's nutz.
25 posted on 03/05/2005 8:37:40 AM PST by Barney59 (Now there's a man with an open mind - you can feel the breeze from here!)
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To: Racehorse

The old ranches in my family are still small family operations lived on and run by my cousins, and are not for sale to developers or anyone else.

We live in an area of acreage lots on what was "throwaway land" on a huge ranch-the land is exposed bedrock in places and useless for growing crops or grazing stock, but it is on a bluff above water and has a beautiful view. The usable part of the ranch is at the end of our road and still operated by the family that has owned it for over 100 years.

We lived in the city for years and hated it-we finally decided to build a house out here, sell the one in the city and bite the bullet on the 40 mile drive to work-we have no regrets.


26 posted on 03/05/2005 9:04:01 AM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: carlr

Deer and rabbit are fine to eat-I'm a deer hunter myself-but not the rest of that stuff. I do like the occassional grilled rattlesnake though...


27 posted on 03/05/2005 9:08:02 AM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: Libloather

Has anyone mentioned that senior citizens of the USA is the wealthiest demographic in the world and that 85% of social security payouts go for greens fees, bingo, and trips to Vegas? It would be interesting to throw that bit of truth into this dishonest mess.


28 posted on 03/05/2005 9:12:23 AM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: whereasandsoforth
Did you see the clip of Ted Kennedy getting challenged by a guy in an audience of koolaid drinkers? The guy asked Kennedy why he was against letting Americans have the same opportunity all federal employees have.

The bullfrog bloviator yelled back something like: Because that's trying to replace a full retirement with a supplemental retirement.... Wish I could remember his exact words even though his answer didn't make sense.
29 posted on 03/05/2005 9:22:49 AM PST by demkicker (John McCain is a power hungry traitor and proved it on 2/19/05 in Iraq)
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To: Libloather
Another screened lib event. The place seats 650, students got 20% (130) and the lib dim's hand picked the remaining 520. There were no Q & A from the lib's they all had zippers on their mouths.
30 posted on 03/05/2005 9:55:19 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Boston Tea Party

Mice and rats and if they were really good, an occasional bowl of milk.


31 posted on 03/05/2005 9:59:52 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: Libloather

The Social Security System contributions are estimated to be $575 biilon for 2005, paying out $515 billion for the same year. The federal government will "borrow" the $60 billion surplus and spend it. They've been doing this for over 40 years now. I want to know how much the federal government now owes the system after 4 decades of this.
If there will have to be deficit spending as the cost to implementing SS reform this spending can applied to the debt the government owes to the system. Besides there being no actual money there, what's wrong with my thinking.


32 posted on 03/06/2005 5:10:23 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: Racehorse

When we didn't have no crawdad we ate dirt.


33 posted on 03/06/2005 5:13:35 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: HankReardon
"When we didn't have no crawdad we ate dirt."

Hey, is that be you, Bubba Gump?

34 posted on 03/06/2005 5:20:39 AM PST by newfreep
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To: HankReardon
I want to know how much the federal government now owes the system after 4 decades of this.

From - http://www.ssa.gov/history/hfaq.html

Q23: Was the original Social Security program designed to be self-supporting?

A: Yes. In fact the actuaries estimated the program would have a $47 billion reserve by 1980, and the Trust Fund balance hit $46 billion in 1974. However, the reserve declined after that so that the balance stood at only $26 billion in 1980. (Today the Trust Fund reserves are over $1 trillion.)

35 posted on 03/06/2005 6:40:09 AM PST by Libloather (The left is dead! Long live their impeached *King and *Queen!)
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To: Libloather

Over a trillion dollars is oewd the SS system. I have heard NO ONE mention this when wondering where the cost of transition will come from.


36 posted on 03/06/2005 6:59:58 AM PST by HankReardon
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To: hflynn
I'm sure Chuckie Cheese, born in 1950, was an eyewitness to seniors eating cat food prior to 1935.

I think more and more people are on to the Dems. Last night, Fox News showed Schumer demanding that oil be released from the SPR. BUT, Fox News showed the room where Schumer made this demand. It was virtually empty - maybe one or two reporters. When Schumer asked if anyone had questions - there was NOT ONE question. Schumer sort of shrunk and left the briefing. Funny as hell!

37 posted on 03/10/2005 8:09:12 AM PST by Fury
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To: Fury
Last night, Fox News showed Schumer demanding that oil be released from the SPR.

I'd call Schumer a moron but why insult the intelligence of morons.

The entire SPR is about 600 million barrels. Schumer usually proposes 20 - 30 million barrels be released. At the same time he is 1 of the most vocal Senators opposing ANWR drilling which would produce 10 - 16 billion barrels

38 posted on 03/10/2005 9:09:23 AM PST by hflynn
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