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B.C. not P.C. for students
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 3, 2005

Posted on 03/03/2005 6:10:29 PM PST by A. Pole

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To: A. Pole

I ran into this two years ago when my youngest daughter was a freshman in high school. The high school is a Catholic high school, and still, they were pushing the BCE.


21 posted on 03/03/2005 7:10:06 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: Paul Atreides
Before long, some nervous ninny will be "offended" at the sight of a Christian church, and demand that they should be banned.

It happened before in Soviet Union - the craddle of Separation of Church and State.

22 posted on 03/03/2005 7:17:35 PM PST by A. Pole (Richard Niebuhr: the first question of ethics is not "What should I do?" but "What is going on?")
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To: mikrofon
I thought in Canada it was always referred to as BCE -- "Before Christ, Eh?"

BCE means simply Before Christian Era.

23 posted on 03/03/2005 7:18:54 PM PST by A. Pole (Richard Niebuhr: the first question of ethics is not "What should I do?" but "What is going on?")
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To: Aetius

"Didn't you know, "Thou shalt not offend or make uncomfortable or be insensitive to non-Christians" is one of the commandments of the PC Diversity religion to which the left bows down to?"


And don't forget, they'll be proudly displayed in every courthouse and government building in the land!!!


24 posted on 03/03/2005 7:23:36 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: BelieveNFreedom
The simple fact is that various scholars studying written materials and other matters of ancient history are from a variety of faiths. I see this terminology not as p.c. overkill, but just common courtesy.

This is a nonsense and not courtesy. It is not COMMON era for "variety of faiths". Don't you know that that Muslims, Jews and others do NOT count time from birth of Christ?

If you are really so sensitive to non-Christians, why don't you propose to introduce other calendar Muslim for example? Or maybe it should be secular French Revolutionary Calendar with the ten days cycle in place of a seven days week (insensitive to those who reject the Creation story)?

I think that after the defeat of French Revolution and of Soviet system, the militant secularists decided to work on destroying Christian civilization through small steps.

25 posted on 03/03/2005 7:29:36 PM PST by A. Pole (Richard Niebuhr: the first question of ethics is not "What should I do?" but "What is going on?")
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To: Hand em their arse
And don't forget, they'll be proudly displayed in every courthouse and government building in the land!!!

I guess the American government should stop counting years according to the Christian calendar. What about chosing as year 1 the time of Roe Wade decision or the Lenin's coup d'etat?

26 posted on 03/03/2005 7:33:28 PM PST by A. Pole (Richard Niebuhr: the first question of ethics is not "What should I do?" but "What is going on?")
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To: A. Pole

The birth of Christ was a historic event, not just a religious one.


27 posted on 03/03/2005 7:55:13 PM PST by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Paul Atreides

''A lot of people accept the reality of Jesus as a historical figure but don't accept him as Christ"

OK, so... B.J. would be acceptable?


28 posted on 03/03/2005 7:55:54 PM PST by Just A Nobody
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To: A. Pole

I'll be dead in the cold ground before I use "C.E." and "B.C.E." I may start spelling out Anno Domini in response to this garbage.


29 posted on 03/03/2005 8:01:45 PM PST by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: NYer; little jeremiah
How much more absurd can it get? This is foolish.

Teacher: Now the (fill in blank) in (blank) were built in 1250 BCE...

Student: What is BCE?

Teacher:The common era.

Student: What is the common era?

Teacher: Ummmm... Uh.... The Christian era.

Main Entry: Christian era

Function: noun
Date: 1657
: the period dating from the birth of Christ
© 2001 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated Merriam-Webster

30 posted on 03/03/2005 8:18:10 PM PST by DirtyHarryY2K (''Go though life with a Bible in one hand and a Newspaper in the other" -- Billy Graham)
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To: BelieveNFreedom
I see this terminology not as p.c. overkill, but just common courtesy.""

No, it's ridiculously shallow PC - because they're still counting from the birth of Christ, just trying to hide or deny what they're doing.

31 posted on 03/03/2005 8:27:32 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
I agree, this is just common courtesy.

Why should a non-Christian (to include Jews) be forced to use a dating system based upon a religion that they do not follow?

Before Current Erra (B.C.E) or Current Erra (C.E.), is much more generic.

32 posted on 03/03/2005 8:37:55 PM PST by Hunble
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To: Hunble
Why should a non-Christian (to include Jews) be forced to use a dating system based upon a religion that they do not follow? Before Current Erra (B.C.E) or Current Erra (C.E.), is much more generic. """

Wake up -- it's still the same dating system! They're still counting from the birth of Christ - even though they're trying to cover up that fact with a ridiculous euphemism. If they want to ignore Christ, adopt the Chinese calendar, which starts counting thousands of years earlier (they're in year 4,000- something right now). But it's sophomoric and self-contradictory to say that we can't use a "dating system" that is founded on the belief that Christ is the hinge of history - - and then continue to count from the birth of Christ.

"Common Era" has no meaning. The era that starts at 1 CE is the Christian Era, even if they adopt a term that has no meaning, to try to deny that fact. If you're going to insist on politeness, as you claim to be doing, then let's have some politeness toward people, like me, who can't suffer fools or foolishness - or make-believe, meaningless terms like "common era"

33 posted on 03/03/2005 8:50:01 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: A. Pole

They sould be more open and change it to what they really believe - BN and AN, Before Nothing and After Nothing.


34 posted on 03/03/2005 8:51:17 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Hunble

What's really going on is that the Left hates Western Civilization and hates admitting that Christianity is the founding force of Western Civilization. Our dating system reflects the fact that the birth of Christianity triggered a revolutionary change in history - and led to the development of the culture that has culminated in the United States, with our unparalleled institutions and principles. The Left hates it all, and wants to try to erase it. Just like the European Constitution authors want to deny Christianity's role in the shaping of Europe - - - they got an earful from the Pope for their effort to deny historical truth.


35 posted on 03/03/2005 8:54:52 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
"Common Era" has no meaning.

Japan, China, and all other non-western civilizations have adopted our dating system.

However, using the term "Common Era" is a good compromise.

36 posted on 03/03/2005 9:05:52 PM PST by Hunble
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To: A. Pole

To be expected......Daniel 7:25


37 posted on 03/03/2005 9:08:18 PM PST by Jay Howard Smith (Retired(25yrs)Military)
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To: churchillbuff
By the way, the official Julian date is now:

2453433.71446

Ask any astronomer, and they will explain to you why scientist us the Julian date for all event timings.

38 posted on 03/03/2005 9:11:31 PM PST by Hunble
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To: Hunble
"Common Era" is NOT a "good compromise", because it has no meaning. What does it mean? What is "common" about the era that begins when Christ was born? I'm sorry, but as an infant and grade-schooler, I was perfectly willing to use words or phrases that had no meaning, or whose meaning I didn't grasp. But not as an adult.

And China, by the way, still uses a dating system that ignores Christ's birth, but starts long before that. (In dealings with the West, they'll use the Christian dating system, but not internally)

39 posted on 03/03/2005 9:24:08 PM PST by churchillbuff
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To: Aetius
The only people who get offended or upset by such things are people who go looking for things to offend them. To hell with such people!

I agree!

40 posted on 03/03/2005 9:26:10 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Proud member of P.O.O.P., People Offended by Offended People.)
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