Dan: " Got those fake documents your promised ? "
Saddam: " Drrrrrr . . .ehhhh . . . drrrrr "
Posted on 02/27/2005 10:21:12 AM PST by Brian Mosely
# NEW YORK, Feb. 27 /PRNewswire/ -- When George W. Bush confronted Vladimir Putin last week about the freedom of the press in Russia, Senior White House Correspondent Richard Wolffe reports, Putin shot back with an attack of his own: "We didn't criticize you when you fired those reporters at CBS." Details of the meeting, which included just the two presidents and their translators inside the historic castle that overlooks the Slovak capital of Bratislava, are reported in the March 7 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, February 28).
It's not clear how well Putin understands the controversy that led to the dismissal of four CBS journalists over the discredited report on Bush's National Guard service. Yet it's all too clear how Putin sees the relationship between Bush and the American media -- just like his own. Bush's aides have long feared that former KGB officers in Putin's inner circle are painting a twisted picture of U.S. policy. So Bush explained how he had no power to fire American journalists. It made little difference, Wolffe writes.
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How about when Bush melted the polar ice caps?
oh my God...
Earth to Putin... Earth to Putin...
Not really funny. People judge you by what is familiar and natural to them. That Putin would leap to that conclusion says a lot about him and it is not good.
Whew! Bad news when the Russian President has such a fundamental misunderstanding of the abilities and limitations of his American counterpart.
I saw that press conference and I think a Russian reporter made the statement about CBS, not Putin. Am I wrong? Anyone?
I wouldn't believe an msm headling, but, if true, this is telling. he thinks the whole world controls its media. we are light years apart.
Dear Lord....This man has NOT got a clue. See what Socialism does to the brain?
FReepers
Curiously enough, an American president can force the media to fire reporters if he plays dirty enough. Bill clinton forced them to fire at least five reporters who annoyed him, by threatening their bosses with the IRS and the regulators.
Of course Clinton also had the willing help of the media itself, which never criticized him for behaving this way. They probably agreed that the reporters who were fired deserved it because they weren't good little leftists like the rest.
Bush doesn't do that kind of thing. And the media wouldn't let him if he tried. But they were happy to cooperate with clinton in abusing their colleagues.
When the two presidents emerged for their joint press conference, one Russian reporter repeated Putin's language about journalists getting fired. Bush (already hot after an earlier question about his spying on U.S. citizens) asked the reporter if he felt free. "They obviously planted the question," said one of Bush's senior aides.
*** and besides, who gives a rip whether putin criticizes us or not? we do what we do, because we decide to do it, because we believe it's right.
I find this hard to accept. Putin was KGB. Those guys were vicious and evil, but never stupid. They paid American journalists to spout Kremlin lies (talking points in today's lexicon). They were well aware of who hired and who fired people in the press and media. There is absolutely no way Putin said this as reported.
I see Vladimir Putin has finally gotten around to activating that DU membership...
You are not wrong, it was a reporter.
That was nothimg compared to the time he was hiding bin Laden in the White House basement.
I agree.
Pooty Poot, it is!
I'm just shocked! Another MSM hag rag got it wrong again? It wasn't one of their properly credentialed "journalists" was it?
Saddam: " Drrrrrr . . .ehhhh . . . drrrrr "
The Russian KGB know how it works. Their agents of influence were constantly using our freedoms to take us down and nothing happens to them.
The master manipulator of media and journalists was named Filipp Bobkov.
His son, a "poet," was the head of the writer's union.
After commun ism ended Bobkov went to work for the oligarch Valaimir Gusinsky as a "security expert" in his bank called MOST.
Another probably relative, Darya S. Bobkova, was at the MOST bank in Spain. This was a correspondant bank, ie, a bank for banks.
Such banks are often where drug money from S. America is first placed for laundering.
Bobkov is a world-class slime bag.
Lol. I think it's pretty funny
Who were the five reporters Clinton had fired?
I read an article about it a few days ago and it said that it was a Russian reporter that made the comment. I don't believe that Putin is stupid enough to make a statement like that.
If this quote is accurate, Putin should stop looking at the MSM in the same light as the Russian media.
In Russia the government controls the media, so that kind of quote from a Russian makes sense (if accurate).
In America the MSM tries to control the flow of news from the government to fit its own agenda.
In both countries the media is under the control of some agency before it reaches the public. Bloggers do away with agencies, and would be considered criminals in Russia. In the US bloggers are treated like criminals by the MSM. That CBS quote assumes that there are no bloggers in Russia to neuter the Russian media in the same way that American bloggers neutered the MSM.
Putin knows exactly what he means and what the truth is. However, what is the real “purpose” of this comment and "who" is he really targeting with it?
I'm sure such comments are well received by the intended audience and the government controlled media in Russia which will give credibility to it.
Very few nations have a true free speech and the media is controlled or largely influenced by the state in MOST nations out there. What we have in the US is unique. Even in Europe the state plays heavy handed in the media and freedom of speech is controlled and NOT completely unbridled. Most don’t understand the US and our media or our Constitution and free press/speech. His comment is absurd to us, but makes complete sense in the Russian paradigm of how the world is.
Red6
Putin must read posts from democratic underground.
???President Bush's response:"Sorry, comrade, didn't know they were your folks."
Yours was first, and it was better.
Re: Pooty poot
Maureen Dowd(y)let this nickname out of the bag this morning on Meet the Liberals. She didn't do it to enhance US-Russia relations, but to embarass the President by revealing private nicknames.
Whether or not, President Bush should let this out in the earshot of Dowd or disloyal aids is antoher issue.
The true depth of Bubba's arrogance and corruption will never be known. This is a new one on me. Details?
He would have looked like a bigger fool than he does now.
I just love that last line.
Here we see the harmful effect of RAT propaganda.
The team investigating CBS handling of the "memos" included people associated with the President's father's administration (Thornburgh for one). Therefore the White House fired the employees of CBS.
If it were not for the constant bashing of America by the left and their stooges, the liberals, we'd be a lot better off. The enemies within.
Forget "a house divided" this is house wrecking!
Putin is so small time and even looks like a snake...GWB now has seen what Putin is all about...this is a good thing.
I do like Pooty-Poo better than Pooty-Poot. Besides, if Moo-Doo says the nickname is Pooty-Poot, I wanna be different. NOTICE: From this day forward, it is no longer Mo-Do. Moo-Doo works much better because it has a highly appropriate cow theme. Moo-Doo accurately describes her column. So Pooty-Poo and Moo-Doo it is! Pooty-Poo and Moo-Doo sittin in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g...
I agree that Putin knows what happened but I suspect the
remark was for Russian and our elite consumption more than
anything else.
He knows that if a lie gets published and is told often
enough it will be believed by many.
Yeah, that's what I thought also....it was what a reporter said....but, maybe Putin said it too????
When the two presidents emerged for their joint press conference, one Russian reporter repeated Putin's language about journalists getting fired.
Supposedly the meeting between Putin & Bush was just them & their translators so I'm wondering how a reporter would know about what went on inside the meeting so soon...unless the whole thing was planned & the question was planted as alleged.
A couple of weeks ago, a thread briefly posted & pulled here at FR was on the subject of a crackdown at a Russian writers' Internet site barring any criticism of Putin's party, the Chechen situ, etc. Might be something to it?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7037620/site/newsweek/
By Richard Wolffe
Newsweek
March 7 issue - It was meant to be a heart-to-heart: just the two presidents and their translators, sitting alone inside the historic castle that overlooks the Slovak capital of Bratislava. Four years earlier, in another castle in Central Europe, George W. Bush looked Vladimir Putin in the eye and saw his trustworthy soul. But what he saw inside Putin last week was far less comforting. When Bush confronted his Russian counterpart about the freedom of the press in Russia, Putin shot back with an attack of his own: "We didn't criticize you when you fired those reporters at CBS."
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It's not clear how well Putin understands the controversy that led to the dismissal of four CBS journalists over the discredited report on Bush's National Guard service. Yet it's all too clear how Putin sees the relationship between Bush and the American media—just like his own. Bush's aides have long feared that former KGB officers in Putin's inner circle are painting a twisted picture of U.S. policy. So Bush explained how he had no power to fire American journalists. It made little difference. When the two presidents emerged for their joint press conference, one Russian reporter repeated Putin's language about journalists getting fired. Bush (already hot after an earlier question about his spying on U.S. citizens) asked the reporter if he felt free. "They obviously planted the question," said one of Bush's senior aides.
LOLOL.....doesn't look like Newsweak did Putin any favors by not correcting his uninformed statement.
"What's that noise?"
"Oh, it's just Vladimir, Putin."
" at least five". I think it ends up being more like 5%.
http://www.foxbghsuit.com/jasw041799.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/burton050798.htm
http://www.idfiles.com/whheat3.htm
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/LIE/lie.html
http://prorev.com/legacy.htm
http://www.townhall.com/bookclub/limbacher.html
http://www.jeanhay.com/COLUMNS/MEDIAOBSESS.HTM
http://www.towardfreedom.com/1998/jun98/thepower.htm
http://archives.cjr.org/year/96/2/travelgate.asp
Is that a good start?
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