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Six Figures? Not Enough!
The New York Times ^ | February 27, 2005 | Alex Williams

Posted on 02/27/2005 4:31:19 AM PST by MississippiMasterpiece

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1 posted on 02/27/2005 4:31:19 AM PST by MississippiMasterpiece
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

Typical lib bias. Nothing in the article mentions the fact that taxes continue to soar. What is 'given' back by the feds is eaten up by the state and local second-handers. The author also neglects to mention the high consumption lifestyles of these people 'struggling' on $100K. Dr. Thomas Stanley does an excellent job in "The Millionaire Next Door" and "The Millionaire Mind" showing how most high income households spend way too much and save very little. They are pseudo-affluent...As they say in Texas...Big Hat...No Cattle.


2 posted on 02/27/2005 4:38:02 AM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
There's a consumption standard that every group has.

Well, say no more.

3 posted on 02/27/2005 4:39:23 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: peyton randolph

This country does not save enough.

The Chinese and Indians are saving 20-40% of their income.

Americans save maybe 1-2%. We are spoiled. We are saddled with huge debt.

The day of reckoning is approaching and it's going to be ugly.


4 posted on 02/27/2005 4:42:11 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

No sympathy for those whiners.


5 posted on 02/27/2005 4:55:19 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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I view this article as part of an organized strategy to increase the social security maximum from $90,000 to $200,000.


6 posted on 02/27/2005 4:58:46 AM PST by John Thornton ("Appeasers always hope that the crocodile will eat them last." Winston Churchill)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece

$200,000 for family isn't all that much in the D.C. area....


7 posted on 02/27/2005 5:00:33 AM PST by dakine
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To: John Thornton
I view this article as part of an organized strategy to increase the social security maximum from $90,000 to $200,000

Excellent insight!! There is an ideological reason behind every story that appears in the NY Times.

8 posted on 02/27/2005 5:02:50 AM PST by speedy
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
Housing in cities like New York, Boston and San Francisco can cost three or four times that of the national median...

Which is why so many people put up with a commute lasting several hours.
9 posted on 02/27/2005 5:06:07 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: peyton randolph
Then again, there are those of us who would appear to be doing splendidly based on our salaries, but we are saving. Socking away tidy sums (in places you can't get to, like retirement plans), has an impact. The $100,000 income that chooses prudence lives like the $65K income living decadently.
10 posted on 02/27/2005 5:08:46 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
The lifestyle the people in this article are discussing is now priced for principals (partners) in investment, legal and other professional firms who are making over $1 million dollars a year...

Otherwise you are just getting drained...

11 posted on 02/27/2005 5:11:57 AM PST by hedgie
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To: dakine
$200,000 for family isn't all that much in the D.C. area....

DC metro is second to the Bay Area in cost of living, as my company found in a recent market study. I'll try to post the sources. It's proving to be a tremendous hindrance in recruiting talent to the area. A routine 3 bedroom townhouse in an average neighborhood can run $500k. I have a single friend looking to buy a home and she's being referred to condos straight out of Sanford and Son for $350k. Add the local tax burden in MD/DC/VA and it's ridiculous.

12 posted on 02/27/2005 5:24:56 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird

It's not what you make. It's what you end up with. Live a modest life style, save when you can, don't spend what you don't have and we can eventually get rid of SSA.


13 posted on 02/27/2005 5:31:24 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
"But Melania and I don't shop in the same places, let me tell you," she said, referring to the latest Mrs. Trump, Melania Knauss. "I'm not jetting off to the Bahamas."

Errrr.... Trump is a multimillionare, chicky.

You're making a year what he makes in a day.

14 posted on 02/27/2005 5:33:01 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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You're making a year what he makes in a day.

My hair is still better.

15 posted on 02/27/2005 5:35:31 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around.....)
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Hear! Hear! How many of the 100K earners even have a budget?

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16 posted on 02/27/2005 5:39:59 AM PST by listenhillary (My tagline died, memorials may be made to me via Paypal)
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To: dakine

I keep reading that the cost of living is exhorbitant in NYC, and kept that in mind while reading this article. It sounds like most of the $100K earned per year there could easily go just for housing.


17 posted on 02/27/2005 5:41:24 AM PST by Joann37
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To: peyton randolph
Yes, I use excerpts from both MM and MND in my business history class (although I no longer use the entire books, as each is too repetitive). The fact is, it all remains "location, location, location."

I live in southern Ohio, in a suburb. $100,000 would get you a pretty nice life here---not "rich," but far, far from lower middle class. But $200k per year pretty much puts you in the lower-upper or even mid-upper class here. It all depends on how you spend your money. All they seem to build here in Dayton are $400k to $1m homes.

18 posted on 02/27/2005 5:47:44 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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My hair is still better.

Yul Brynner's hair is better than Trumps.

19 posted on 02/27/2005 5:51:31 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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To: tomahawk
No, this is a myth. You must look at ALL savings; at WHY people save; and at WHAT is covered in company retirements, health plans, and so on.

The Milken Insititute has done a pretty solid study of savings in America. When you figure that 1) Americans put 12% of their income, mandatory, in SS, well, THAT COUNTS. You can't just dismiss it because "we won't get it." The fact is, the program will be sustained, reformed, and, yes, in some way (perhaps slightly discounted) we will get it. So that's 12% right off the bat that is normally saved for retirement.

2) When you calculate the benefits of most company health plans, that adds another 6-10%. Remember, two of the main reasons for saving are retirement and health emergencies. My dad did not have a retirement plan or a company health plan, so of course he saved 35% of his pay.

3) Most companies have some retirement plans on top of SS, so that has to be factored in.

4) Finally, most other nations have nowhere NEAR the same home ownership rates that we have, and, yes, homes are assets. Most people make money on their homes over their lifetimes and when they get ready to retire sell their homes for a profit and get a condo. This, too, is savings.

When the Milken Institute held these variables constant in contrast with, say, Japan, it turns out our savings rates are identical.

20 posted on 02/27/2005 5:52:29 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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