Posted on 02/18/2005 2:23:36 PM PST by NYGOPRULEZ
Clinton and Carter should be noted as THE WORST EVER!!!
Polk was a pro-slavery Democrat. Not my cup of tea.
No, I'm not complaining....I was impressed with the photo.
Yeah, they should make the respondants name like 20 presidents and only poll the ones who can.
He will never be great because in hindsight he failed miserably in responding to the growth Islamic terror.
A quick overview of Reagan and terror immediately excludes him from greatness as far as I'm concerned:
1)Beirut Embassy bombed 63 dead 120 wounded No response
2)Marine Barracks blown up 241 US Marines Dead - No response- US leaves Lebanon
3) Kuwait Embassy bombed No response
4) CIA Station Chief William Buckley taken hostage / murdered - No response
5) Pays bribes to Iranians to get hostages - against expressed US Policy
6) Kuwaiti Airliner hijacked-2 USID Employees Killed Iranians allow hijacker to leave unscathed. Reagan does nothing
7)American Airlines jet hijacked to Lebanon American Navy Seal murdered and tossed onto the tarmac Reagan has no response. Under pressure from Washington Israel released hundred of terror suspects in response to demands of terrorists.
8)1985- the Achille Lauro hijacked on the high seas-American citizen Leon Klinghoffer is murdered and tossed overboard. Hijackers eventually captured when their plane is forced down in Italy- Italian authorities eventually release Abu Abbas unharmed.
9) 1985 Rome and Vienna airports were bombed killing 5 Americans - No response
10)1986 discotheque in West Berlin is bombed killing US Servicemen. Reagan finally response by attacking Libya.
11) In retaliation for US bombing Palestinian Abu Nidal executed 3 US citizens who worked at American University in Beirut.
12) Qaddafi survives to arrange the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Scotland
Reagan's record regarding terror is arguably worse than Jimmy Carters.
It's not just you.
Klintoon ... maybe the greatest Clymer
and from these results we can determine that 27% of those polled are retarded.
Reagan?
Soviet Union.
But they were undertaken in order to get more territory for the expansion of slavery. This is why anti-slavery politicians like Lincoln opposed the Mexican War.
Ronald Wilson Reagan is on the top of my list. Sorry, but Bill Fellatio Clinton is not even close.
Say WHAT!?!? Suuuure, and all those settlers who swarmed into the west had nothing to do with it.
They obviously asked the wrong question. I would asked "Among the presidents who have not been impeached, have not had their licenses to practice law revoked, and who upheld the oath they took to preserve and protect against all enemies, foreign or domestic, who would you consider to be America's greatest President?"
The greatest threat by far to the U.S. and her future during Reagan's time was global communism. He faced that threat head on and won. That's greatness.
Your argument is like saying Jefferson and Adams did not respond to the north/south divide that engulfed the country fifty years later so they failed miserably.
I'm not buying it.
why not......i'm just rearranging another guy who said washingont, reagan then lincoln........i just reversed lincoln with Reagan....what's the problem with that
and that is why I named Washington #1 and Lincoln #2...been to both their homes both at Mt Vernon and in Ill...respect both men immensely.....Lincoln being the first Repub President did save the union.......and Washington was the Father of our country.......and well deserved......
Wow! Clinton mentioned by 15% and GW by 5%. I don't think people are that stupid. I believe this is media manipulation... but who knows - maybe they are, lol.
Seriously, Clinton will never rank in the top 20, What legacy ?
The present George will be #1 when his term is up and people realize just how great he is. Right now it is hard for some people to see the forest for the trees.
Just another example of liberal lunacy. Clinton???? LOL!
(But it is gratifying that MOST respondents named Ronald Reagan. There is hope, after all!)
I personally wouldn't have put President Lincoln on that list. Go to lewrockwell.com & read their "King Lincoln" articles.
Just like my bumpersticker back in the day....NIXON NOW.
and ABOVE WASHINGTON!!!!!!!!!! This poll is a joke of JOKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Got it. Thanks for clearing that up.
He accomplished the Republican ascendancy in Congress and tried to take credit for much of the Contract With America. If losing that much makes a president great then . . .
RE: post #72
I was quite young during Nixon, Carter, and Reagan. I Actually remember quite a bit and how I felt in general during Reagan . I really became aware of politics during Reagan, in fact I was inspired by him. There will never be another one like President Reagan. I also love W, but he will be great in his own way.
I can't say I know much about the earlier Presidents except what I learned in HS and College. President Reagan should be among one of the greatest Presidents. I am also troubled by the fact that Nixon was placed in same category as carter, President Nixon deserves to be placed way above Carter. As far as I am concerned Both Carter and Clinton should be placed at the very bottom as two of the worst. Hate is a word I don't use often but I really hated Clinton for what he did to the Oval Office.
President Bush I am hoping will also find a place among one of the greatest.
Dubyuh should not measure his success against Slick Willie's...MUD
I agree. I was just being my normal sarcastic self. He isn't, nor will he ever be great.
The top 3 corrupt: Harding, Grant and Clinton.
All came to office merely to skim the system.
Mount Rushmore does not have even one Democrat honored. How sweet it is!
Reagan should be added so we can put another Republican up there and make it three Republicans. Ronald Reagan did far more to earn this right than even Teddy Roosevelt did. Reagan won a major war, he tore down the Berlin wall practically by himself and he restored pride in America like no other past president.
He squirted and stained the oval office. This makes him a liberal icon.
1. Coolidge
2. Reagan
3. Jefferson
4. Monroe
5. Polk
6. Washington
7. Pierce
8. Harding
9. Cleveland
10. Bush II
My list of the worst (starting with the worst):
1. FDR
2. Lincoln
3. Clinton
4. LBJ
5. Carter
6. Grant
7. Wilson
8. JQ Adams
9. Hayes
10. Truman
Best VP: John Calhoun
Worst VP: Henry Wallace
What's your definition of a "reputable historian" then?
I do know one thing about the historians: all the communist ones love Lincoln, and so did Karl Marx himself.
Your smoking some potent weed.
Or better yet: You're smoking some potent weed.
In that sense, Franklin Pierce for example was a great president because he didn't do anything. Calvin Coolidge was a great president because he didn't do much of anything, and that which he did do involved cutting taxes and waste.
The worst presidents are almost always the ones who try to do everything and have a policy for everybody and every facet of life that they think they can stick government's hands into. Clinton tried to do everything. FDR tried to do everything. LBJ tried to do everything. And they were all terrible presidents for it.
I don't know if I can approve any list of great Presidents without the name William Henry Harrison near the top.
A man dies in office after only 32 days, he can't have f'ed up nearly as much as the rest of them have.
Bump to that and both of you. Your posts are refreshingly pro-Constitutional government, something less and less rarely seen here.
By the way, you really should consider putting W.H.Harrison on that list--he didn't do squat. By our evaluation methods, he's a damn fine president.
By your standard, the current President should rank right there on the bottom of your list.
Too bad, indeed. Washington's advice (Farewell Address) was truly for the ages on all its points. Everything in it, is completely sound.
As for the party establishments? I sat out the last election, which probably infuriated some people who generally back my views. But really, what was the point? The Clinton Administration and the Bush Administration were and are in agreement on 90% of the basic ideological issues that will determine or destroy the American future. Only on taxes, does Bush reject the poisonous variety of social engineering and population analysis that underpins the Socialist view of the human future. Each of the last two Presidents is in virtual 180 degree variance from the Washingtonian legacy.
William Flax
Amen! The American Revolution was fought over expanding Governmental roles. There was no problem between the Colonies and the Mother Country, until the latter, after the French and Indian Wars (1756-1763), began to actually become a factor in the daily lives of the peoples. Our very existence was premised upon a repudiation of dependence upon powerful central government.
William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
Did I say that doing nothing was the ONLY criterion for a great president? No. I said that I rank it highly among the different characteristics. Thus my list is a mix of presidents who did nothing or who, when they did something, it was surprisingly positive.
Well, Clinton gave the Republicans both houses of congress. I'll always be greatful to him for that. He was definitely one of the best things that ever happened to Republicans. As far as cleaning up messes, we're still trying to clean up Carter's messes (Iran, Panama, and his encore performance in Korea), so I think the Peanut was a worse President. We really should have just run more interns at Clinton. As long as he kept his hands busy, he didn't cause too many problems.
He freed "Willy."
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