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Why don't area evangelicals have more power?
Chicago Sun Times ^ | February 13, 2005 | CATHLEEN FALSANI

Posted on 02/14/2005 12:14:51 AM PST by ConservativeStatement

Despite the role evangelicals played in swaying the 2004 presidential election, evangelicals in the Chicago area are not a political force to be reckoned with -- yet.

That will soon change if Andy McKenna, newly elected chairman of the Illinois Republican Party, has anything to do with it.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; elections; evangelicals; illinois; mckenna; politics; religion

1 posted on 02/14/2005 12:14:51 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan; scross7; Mike Bates; Chi-townChief
"Windy City" ping.
2 posted on 02/14/2005 12:23:53 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("There is some sugar...It's harder in the case of fires. The tariffs are too high!")
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan; aberaussie; Aeronaut; ahadams2; AlternateViewpoint; ...

Lutheran Ping!


Church historian Martin Marty said..."I love the moat we have around Illinois...We are so far from being a red state, it's hard for them to get things going here."

Martin Marty, rumored to be Lutheran, is actually a despicable apostate leftist dweeb.

3 posted on 02/14/2005 5:34:11 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TonyRo76
I read a piece by him once, didn't have a clue what he said and passed it around to several others to read it and not a one could explain what he just took several paragraphs to say. I have no clue what he was talking about.

I think he thinks he's one of those enlightened elitists who knows more than anyone else and anyone privileged enough to read his writings will be so bamboozled by his brilliance they won't want to show their stupidity by admitting they don't know what he was saying. Either he's an idiot, or I am.

4 posted on 02/14/2005 6:08:37 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: TonyRo76

Oops. I should have said "he THINKS he knows more than anyone else."


5 posted on 02/14/2005 6:09:58 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Either he's an idiot, or I am.

Hmmmmm...it's not you! :)

6 posted on 02/14/2005 6:16:02 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: Floyd R Turbo
I think he was being quite serious. The whole reference to him was...
Church historian Martin Marty said that, while many Chicago area evangelicals are against abortion and gay marriage -- two hallmarks of the current Republican platform -- they aren't "summonable" as a group the way their counterparts in other areas of the country are.

"I love the moat we have around Illinois," Marty said. "We are so far from being a red state, it's hard for them to get things going here."

Marty himself is a well-known theological liberal (i.e. heretic) with a long history of syncretism, postmodern weirdness and denying Biblical authority.
8 posted on 02/14/2005 10:12:32 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Get thee Evangelicals and Mormons to New York and New Jersey!


9 posted on 02/14/2005 10:15:18 AM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: TonyRo76

'Church historian Martin Marty'

I am hoping this clown is ELCA.


10 posted on 02/14/2005 12:05:28 PM PST by xone
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Meaning no offense, but: no Body and Blood of Christ = no Power. Traditions of men, however lovely and well-intentioned, are no substitute for the Real Presence of Christ.


11 posted on 02/14/2005 12:06:56 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: xone
I am hoping this clown is ELCA.

Oh yeah. He certainly is. I just think it's a misfortune that he darkens the name “Lutheran” at all.

MM is clearly a false, heretical teacher leading many people astray. Sortof like a “Lutheran” Bishop Spong.

12 posted on 02/14/2005 12:08:27 PM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: B-Chan
Anglican, Lutheran and Reformed churches all teach the Real Presence of Christ in the Sacrament, at the Communion table, in one way or another.

As far as I know, only Baptistic and other independent groups follow the teaching of Zwingli, i.e. symbolism or "memorialism."

13 posted on 02/14/2005 12:12:18 PM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

California and Illinois are examples of how states with large numbers of evangelicals lack strong political influence. In the case of Illinois, Chicago and its suburbs are the 800 pound gorilla of state politics. Illinois has much in common with Indiana in terms of the origins of its people and economic engines. However, the Hoosier State is the most Republican state east of the Great Plains and north of the Mason-Dixon line. The principal difference is that Lake County, in the extreme northwest corner of Indiana, though similar to adjacent Chicago in many respects, has minimal impact on the state overall.


14 posted on 02/14/2005 12:21:12 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: TonyRo76

Thanks. He's a relative of people I know. They're Dems.


15 posted on 02/14/2005 4:49:15 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
They're Dems.

LOL! That figures :)

16 posted on 02/15/2005 4:42:09 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: Wallace T.
the Hoosier State is the most Republican state east of the Great Plains and north of the Mason-Dixon line

I've always liked Indiana! They're alot like us (Ohio) except without all the socialism and union/mafia influence of Cleveland and Youngstown.

17 posted on 02/15/2005 4:44:09 AM PST by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: TonyRo76

Thanks. Very interesting article.


18 posted on 02/15/2005 5:41:21 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 ("I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for," - Howard Dean 01/29/2005)
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