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We Now Know - The Myth of McCarthyism (Exposes Arthur Miller)
The New Criterion ^ | September 2000

Posted on 02/13/2005 3:28:16 AM PST by Lando Lincoln

Edited on 02/13/2005 3:53:11 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: ichabod1
...and there was only an 18 year span between the end of the Civil War and the Haymarket Riots in Chicago.

Call me a dumb bunny, but what on earth does the Chicago Haymarket riots and the end of the Civil War have to do with each other?

61 posted on 02/13/2005 6:57:03 AM PST by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Lando Lincoln

62 posted on 02/13/2005 6:58:53 AM PST by paltz
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To: Lando Lincoln
Links of Interest

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1341941/posts
The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1342023/posts
The Clintons Terrorist Ties

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1214723/posts
"Sex Lead Me To Communism"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1341941/posts?page=22#22
Democratic Socialists of America (DSA)

http://www.au.af.mil/au/aul/bibs/tergps/tgdom.htm
The National Alliance, listed as domestic terrorists

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1341941/posts?page=25#25
National Alliance a current National Socialist movement in America

http://bernie.house.gov/pc/members.asp
List for the members of the Progressive Party


Progressive Labor Party

63 posted on 02/13/2005 7:09:21 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Wiz
Good morning.

"What are the communists and socialists utilizing to demoralize America today?"

The DemocRAT Party and the education establishment are doing their worst to demoralize the nation, as far as I can see.

Michael Frazier
64 posted on 02/13/2005 7:10:25 AM PST by brazzaville (No surrender,no retreat. Well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Lando Lincoln
It is high time to destroy the image of Joe McCarthy as a bloated bigot who browbeat cringing innocents into turning on their grandmothers. McCarthy's zeal was clouded by a whiskey lens, but his charges erred only in that they were not broad enough.

I recommend Arthur Herman's biography for a look at the real man and the true story. If you need more proof after reading that, drag yourself through The Black Book of Communism, essentially a compendium of the Venona decrypts from the Kremlin archives.

65 posted on 02/13/2005 7:24:57 AM PST by IronJack
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To: ichabod1

There's a bit of revisionist history here, too. There's no question that Reds had infiltrated the State Department and other agencies. But there's little evidence McCarthy had firsthand knowledge.


66 posted on 02/13/2005 7:26:47 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: yankeedame

Because people think the events leading up to the Civil War, and the forces driving Anarchism (Communism) are two completely different things. I'm just saying that the dynamics of the Civil War and Reconstruction LED TO the rise of communism in the USA. The pattern couldn't be seen until after the Russian Revolution, and it still isn't recognized today by the left.

btw I'm not sure I disagree with Lincoln's jailing of seditionists and traitors, especially in the Congress.


69 posted on 02/13/2005 7:31:54 AM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

He was trying to flush them out, right?


70 posted on 02/13/2005 7:33:21 AM PST by ichabod1 (The Spirit of the Lord Hath Left This Place)
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To: Calpernia

bump


71 posted on 02/13/2005 7:34:55 AM PST by blackeagle
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To: Route101
Arthur Miller??....who cares?

..He's dead, Jim.

72 posted on 02/13/2005 7:36:21 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: Calpernia
Nice reminder on the PLP. It's good to take note that the Dems, in their recent bid for relevance, are trying to remold their image from "liberal" to "progressive."

They just can't expunge the terms of their communist foundation.

73 posted on 02/13/2005 7:43:48 AM PST by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

>>>But there's little evidence McCarthy had firsthand knowledge.

On what do you base that statement??? Haven't you ever read the Transcripts of McCarthy’s committee?

He had Paul Crouch, a top functionary of the Communist Party, testify and exposed communists in influential positions.

http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol3.pdf


74 posted on 02/13/2005 7:57:05 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

No one said McCarthy overlooked the obvious.


75 posted on 02/13/2005 7:59:05 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Lando Lincoln
"...they were uniformly suspicious of American initiatives throughout the world, they could be contemptuous of American democracy, society and culture, and above all, their offenses were often minimized or explained away by apologists who felt that no man should be called traitor who did what he did for the cause of humanity."

Not really a fair comparison, however. From a pure artistic talent standpoint, Moore is a piss ant compared to Miller, even though both worship at the feet of tyranny.

76 posted on 02/13/2005 8:01:40 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I don't know about McCarthy's firsthand knowledge, but Roosevelt knew about Alger and Donald Hiss as early as 1939. He was personally informed by Adolf Berle, Roosevelt's Assistant Secretary of State in charge of security. For more info on this see Whittaker Chambers' "Witness," (1980)esp. pp. 463-471


77 posted on 02/13/2005 8:05:56 AM PST by JGT
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To: Lando Lincoln

Thanks for posting this.


78 posted on 02/13/2005 8:07:57 AM PST by jamaly
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I'm confused by your point. You said:

>>>But there's little evidence McCarthy had firsthand knowledge.

I just gave you the transcript to the testimonies he had from his committee.

McCarthy did have evidence and FIRSTHAND knowledge. He is the one that got Paul Crouch to testify.

So what do you mean by, "No one said McCarthy overlooked the obvious."


79 posted on 02/13/2005 8:12:35 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Lando Lincoln

good post.

as an undergrad, miller's death of a salesman was assigned. i didn't think it was such a great book. later i realized it was part of the hidden agenda of the left to indoctrinate students against american business.

the los angeles times has never reckoned with this myth. the times still celebrates the obits of mccarthy era writers with 2/3-page honors, never admitting that they were communists.

nor, hollywood--no movie on the demise of the soviet union has been produced.


80 posted on 02/13/2005 8:16:31 AM PST by ken21
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