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Bush Vows Veto of Any Cutback in Drug Benefit
NY Times ^ | February 12, 2005 | ROBERT PEAR

Posted on 02/12/2005 2:13:24 PM PST by neverdem

WASHINGTON, Feb. 11 - President Bush threatened on Friday to veto any bill that scales back Medicare's prescription drug benefit, which becomes available in January 2006 to millions of elderly and disabled people.

New estimates showing that the benefit will cost $724 billion over a decade have touched off a furor in Congress, where lawmakers originally believed that it would cost much less. Many members of Congress say they want to revisit the Medicare law this year. Conservatives seek cutbacks in benefits and cost controls. Liberals and some centrists want to require the government to negotiate prices with drug manufacturers.

But on Friday, Mr. Bush said, "I signed Medicare reform proudly, and any attempt to limit the choices of our seniors and to take away their prescription drug coverage under Medicare will meet my veto."

White House officials made clear that Mr. Bush would resist any fundamental change in the law, which he described Friday as "a landmark achievement."

The president spoke at a swearing-in ceremony for Michael O. Leavitt, the new secretary of health and human services. Mr. Bush presented himself as a protector of benefits long promised to the elderly, a stance that could work to his advantage in the coming battle over Social Security.

Mr. Bush's comments came three days after new data on the Medicare drug benefit showed costs far exceeding the original estimates by the White House and the Congressional Budget Office.

Members of Congress said on Friday that they intended to re-examine the law and would try to revise it, despite Mr. Bush's veto threat.

Representative Jeff Flake, Republican of Arizona, said he was surprised by the threat. But Mr. Flake said: "I cannot imagine the president would veto a bill that would more closely resemble what he originally wanted, a means-tested benefit to help low-income seniors who cannot afford their medicines. Congress larded up the president's request, and I hope he would not cast his first veto if Congress now acts more fiscally responsible."

Senator Olympia J. Snowe, Republican of Maine, said she would keep pushing legislation to require the government to negotiate prices with drug makers and a separate bill to legalize imports of lower-cost medicines from Canada and other countries.

Senator Ron Wyden, an Oregon Democrat who voted for the Medicare bill, said: "The prescription drug benefit is heading into a danger zone. It cannot stand much more bad news. The combination of rising cost estimates and confusion over the drug discount card is really ominous. In a belt-tightening environment, some members of Congress will want to throw this out and start all over again."

Representative Rahm Emanuel, Democrat of Illinois, said Mr. Bush's comments suggested that "he's nervous." Mr. Emanuel, the chairman of the campaign committee for House Democrats, said, "The president's base, the conservative base of the Republican Party, is upset with a bill that has thrown fiscal restraint out the window."

Many Medicare beneficiaries have said they see the drug benefit as inadequate. Supporters of the 2003 law say they do not want to scale back that benefit at the same time Congress is considering reductions in guaranteed Social Security benefits, as part of Mr. Bush's plan to remake the giant pension program for the elderly.

House Republican leaders and White House officials won passage of the Medicare bill in November 2003 by assuring wavering lawmakers that it would cost no more than $400 billion from 2004 to 2013. In January 2004, the White House put the price tag at $534 billion.

This week the Bush administration said the cost would total $724 billion from 2006 to 2015 - a different period, reflecting increases in enrollment and higher drug prices in later years. The chief Medicare actuary predicts that spending on the drug benefit will be growing 11 percent a year by 2013 and will reach $109 billion in 2015.

Details of the drug benefit are likely to be a subject of fierce debate in Congress until the coverage starts on Jan. 1. Medicare officials worry that the debate, including constant criticism of the law by many Democrats, may discourage elderly people from signing up.

The law authorizes the biggest expansion of Medicare since its creation in 1965. Besides providing a drug benefit, the law creates new managed-care options and increases payments to private insurers as an incentive to enter the Medicare market.

"This law is a landmark achievement in American health care, and millions of older Americans are already benefiting from its reforms," Mr. Bush said, referring to the drug discount card and new coverage for an initial physical examination and screenings for diabetes and high cholesterol.

President Bush has not vetoed any bills. A year ago, in his State of the Union address, he vowed to block changes in the Medicare law, and his words were similar to those used on Friday.

"I signed this measure proudly, and any attempt to limit the choices of our seniors, or to take away their prescription drug coverage under Medicare, will meet my veto," Mr. Bush said in his address to Congress on Jan. 20, 2004.

But the statement did not resonate then as it did on Friday, because it was made at the beginning of an election year, and criticism of the new law was coming from Democrats who wanted to discredit Mr. Bush's record.

Now many Republicans, including Senator Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, the chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, are saying that Congress should pass legislation to ensure that the drug benefit does not cost more than the original estimate of $400 billion.

Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, said the veto threat was not aimed at a specific proposal. "The president," he said, "was making a general statement," a "very strong statement," that Congress should not tamper with the law.

"The president was making very clear to America's seniors that we stand with you, we made a promise to you, and we're going to keep that promise," Mr. McClellan said. "He's not going to let anybody take away what we have provided to you."

Mr. McClellan accused Democrats of trying to "undermine the reforms that we put in place." But proposals to rethink the drug benefit have also come from influential Republicans.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bush; medicare; prescriptiondrugs; term2; veto
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1 posted on 02/12/2005 2:13:24 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

2 posted on 02/12/2005 2:15:07 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: neverdem
More justification for my premise that Bush is a RINO.
3 posted on 02/12/2005 2:17:14 PM PST by rottndog (Stop Jeb Now. NO MORE BUSH!!!!!!!!)
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To: bahblahbah

LOL The first time I've seen that.


4 posted on 02/12/2005 2:18:25 PM PST by drt1
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To: neverdem
LBJ had two quagmires:

Vietnam--a war he refused to win

Medicaid/Medicare--Programs he started that will crush future generations in high taxes and debt.

W knows that he won't be in office when the &^%$ hits the fan. The Republicans in Congress will have to deal with this ugly long-term problem.
5 posted on 02/12/2005 2:26:21 PM PST by cgbg (Conventional wisdom is stupid.)
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To: neverdem

I am 60 yrs. old. Would someone please show me in the Constitution where the taxpayer MUST pay for prescription drugs for the elderly? I pay for my own. Where in the Constitution are ANY of the entitlements spelled out. I don't see it. And, I am a uber conservative and voted for Bush. I don't like this.


6 posted on 02/12/2005 2:26:55 PM PST by jslade (People who are easily offended......OFFEND ME!)
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To: rottndog

Yep. It's time for Bush to learn how to spell O-V-E-R-R-I-D-E. And the RINO Congressmen better learn it too, if they expect a Republican Congress in 2006. There's a larger and larger group of people fed up. $400 billion was the initial estimate (not that I ever believed it for a moment), now $700 billion, in a couple months maybe $1 trillion?


7 posted on 02/12/2005 2:27:10 PM PST by VinceJS
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To: neverdem
This prescription program has not even taken place and the doom and gloomers are calling it a quagmire....where have we heard that before.

Fine with me if they want to means test the program but at this point there is no way on earth that these inflated figures reported in the Washington Post can have any validity at all.

8 posted on 02/12/2005 2:27:25 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: bahblahbah

BUWAHAHAHAA! I love it! :D


10 posted on 02/12/2005 2:28:15 PM PST by explodingspleen (http://mish-mash.info/)
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To: bahblahbah

*LOL*! That one's a keeper.

But they need to change the expiration date to 2008.


11 posted on 02/12/2005 2:28:24 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: neverdem
So Bushie finally grows stones big enough to threaten a veto - and it's over the government not pissing away enough of our hard-earned money?

Tell me why, exactly, I was supposed to vote for this Big Stupid Government politician again? Awww, never mind; I didn't buy the BS the last two times, either.

12 posted on 02/12/2005 2:29:57 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: neverdem
Representative Jeff Flake, Republican of Arizona, said he was surprised by the threat. But Mr. Flake said: "I cannot imagine the president would veto a bill that would more closely resemble what he originally wanted, a means-tested benefit to help low-income seniors who cannot afford their medicines. Congress larded up the president's request, and I hope he would not cast his first veto if Congress now acts more fiscally responsible."

I agree with the unfortunately named Mr. Flake. Means testing is essential. Also, if the government is going to be in the business of paying for prescriptions, they need to use their power as a big-volume buyer to control costs. Hell, they are bigger than Wal-Mart, right, so why not throw their weight around and get lower prices from the companies who are getting their business? Ditto for paying for health care.

13 posted on 02/12/2005 2:33:38 PM PST by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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To: neverdem

Here is the gist of what George W. Bush did: he took away an issue the Democrats had been bandying about for years.

If, when the Democrats had control of the House, Senate and White House, they had passed a drug benefit for seniors, we may be sure of several things - first, the annual cost would be several times as much as the Bush plan. Second, drugs would be even more expensive, or far more difficult to obtain, than they now are, because of the huge number of lawsuits that the drug companies would have to defend themselves against, with the result that several companies that now produce drugs would either flee overseas, or terminate the pharmaceutical research and production facilities altogether. The Democrats would have muscled down the "profits" the pharmaceutical firms received, and effectively created an artificial scarcity. Third, practically all the drugs available in this country would have to be imported from some foreign country, from sources of questionable reliability, as they would no longer be under FDA review, and quality control would be a thing of the past.

Under the Bush plan, the production of drugs and the oversight on their manufacture remains in this country.

Some enterprising insurance and financial services company has an excellent opportunity to step in here, and provide a "prepayment" plan for pharmaceutical products, that would be a stopgap between what is offered under the drug benefit, and the full cost or the needed prescriptions. Under something like a Health Savings Account, perhaps.


14 posted on 02/12/2005 2:36:12 PM PST by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: Hugh Lincoln
I don't get IT. The reckless sending spree, the unworkable (AND Unpopular) Immigration Policy?

The Medicare thing was already out of control and the same type of low ball projections for it were produced by LBJ only to be revised upwards by (I think) over tenfold just a few years later.

On top of an obviously failed Social Security System, a failure abundantly clear at the time of it's inception, and a Medicare System that was already threatening to swamp the budget, they pile on even more seemingly endless benefits. Where I come from they advise that, if you find yourself in a hole - Stop digging. It would appear the recognition of the position in the hole is some time off.

15 posted on 02/12/2005 2:41:57 PM PST by drt1
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To: Hank Rearden; rottndog; cgbg; jslade; VinceJS; OldFriend
Hank wrote, "Tell me why, exactly, I was supposed to vote for this Big Stupid Government politician again? Awww, never mind; I didn't buy the BS the last two times, either."

Did I hear an argument about the lesser of two evils? How come the primary in 2000 was basically between two moderates, Bush and McCain? No conservative had any traction. Now we know what a compassionate conservative does, and we have pubbies in Congress addicted to pork now.

16 posted on 02/12/2005 2:50:12 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

The thing is, as much as people characterize our older generation as people struggling to get by, the fact is they are by far the wealthiest segment of our population. Why we need a subsidy program for a group of people who largely don't need it. I am sure there are plenty that it will mean a lot to, but $70 billion a year is a chunck of change.


17 posted on 02/12/2005 2:53:32 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Hugh Lincoln
It's great politics: mouth "prescription drug benefit for seniors" over and over and over and you lock in the very critical senior vote

But I am not even sure Bush got much milage out of it. For as massive assistance as it will be, Democrats just brushed it off as a subsidy to drug companies and seniors did not seem all that excited about it.

18 posted on 02/12/2005 2:56:16 PM PST by Always Right
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To: neverdem

Isn't this the first time Bush threatened a veto ?


19 posted on 02/12/2005 2:56:39 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: OldFriend
This prescription program has not even taken place and the doom and gloomers are calling it a quagmire....where have we heard that before.

Ever hear of Medicare?

20 posted on 02/12/2005 3:00:11 PM PST by skip_intro
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