Kerry should have made Vietnam angst work for him [This is journalism?!]

Chicago Sun-Times ^ | February 6, 2005 | BY WILLIAM O'ROURKE

[aspiring.hillbilly]

Na he just goldbricked and malingered in Nam and behaved like the big fat puss that he proved himself to be. If all troops through the ages turned out to be skerrys, Patton would have whole divisions to slap; and we would all be speaking the king george's english to this day. >

[elhombrelibre]

The Democrats like to blame the majority for not being as smart as their failed candidates. No doubt that's a winning approach; it's probably as smart as having white political hacks without any principles and former Klansmen attacking Condi Rice.

[Fenris6]

a slight majority of Americans simply would rather be led than be forced to entertain contradictory and troubling thoughts.

LOL. This rubbish, right after he pounds his chest re Democrat complexity?

Dear hack: the only reason the 87 Billion quote sprouted wings was because it encapsulated Kerry's stance on so many other issues - he positioned himself according to the last gust of wind. We understood the complexity and nuance required in the US Senate: Congress-critters often say one thing on the floor and then revise & extend an opposite stance in the written record, to cover themselves for the next election. We also know - yes, even us poor redneck hicks - the difference bewtween nuance and appeasement, between complexity and flip-floppiing.

So here's your homework: run out and poll all those complex and nuanced Democrats - ask them if Kerry was For or Against the war in Iraq. Watch as the numbers come in 30/60 repsectively. His own base doesn't understand his position.

We were complex and nuanced enough to not to be led by Kerry, because we understood he is a Two-Faced Fraud. And you?

[Fenris6]

LOL. I should have read your post first, would have saved me the effort. Much more concise too.

Fen: Senator Kerry, are you aware of Arafat's widow and the millions she has socked away in French bank accounts?

Kerry: Why yes, but -

Fen: Is Teressa concerned?

Kerry: !#@@&**@!

[Fenris6]

"A lack of Democratic ideas and solutions to the problems we face today are the problem."

That, and the fact that these complex and nuanced Dems keep nominating North-Eastern Liberal Congress-critters.

As to Kerry's "experience", in his 17 year career he authored a only handful of resolutions, all dealing with "important" issues like National Quilting Day. Maybe thats why he didn't mention his 17 year Senate record during the campaign - too complex and nuanced for the electorate to comprehend.

[Chi-townChief]

CHICAGOLAND PING

[Chi-townChief]

For some reason, I find this beating of a dead horse (or jackass, I guess, in the case of Kerry) by clowns like Mr. O'Dork a source of endless amusement.

And this statement is a classic:

"Many anti-war figures of the Vietnam War era had been influenced by the concentration camp films they had watched in their youth. More than a few were not eager to repeat the actions depicted by the dutiful Germans."

So they repeated the actions depicted by the dutiful commies instead.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"This is the first meeting of the Kerry for President Committee 2008," Kennedy declared
as Kerry and his wife, Teresa, looked on.

In a meeting earlier in the day with Herald editors and reporters, Kennedy predicted Kerry would be an even more formidable candidate if he runs again in four years.

Boston Globe 02/05/05

Don't be a CINO (Conservative in Name Only)
Don't listen to CINO's in politics,
the Main Stream CINO media,
and even here on Free Republic.
EXPOSE the traitor for what he really is, The Enemy Within.

Don't listen to CINO's who want to "move on".
And tell you "get over it Kerry lost"
"Kerry is finished."
He's NOT finished!

And remember this.

All it will take is for Clinton to have more problems with her health
to guarantee that Kerry WILL run in '08.






Col. Geo. "Bud" Day Medal of Honor Vietnam POW 1967-1973 USMC - USA Attorney 1949-2004-

Dear Joe: The major issue in the Swiftboat stories is, and always has been,
what John Kerry did in 1971 after he returned from Vietnam.

Kerry cast a long dark shadow over all Vietnam Veterans with his outright perjury before the Senate concerning atrocities in Vietnam. His stories to the Senate committee were absolute lies.. fabrications.. perjury.. fantasies, with NO substance. That dark shadow has defamed the entire Vietnam War veteran population, and gave "Aid and Comfort" to our enemies..the Vietnamese Communists. Kerry's stories were outright fabrications, and were intended for political gain with the radical left..McGovern, Teddy and Bobby Kennedy followers, Jane Fonda, Tom Hayden, and the radical left who fantasized that George McGovern was going to be elected in 1972. Little wonder that returning soldiers from Vietnam were spit upon and castigated as "baby killers".
A returned war hero said so.

Kerry cut a dashing figure as a war hero, lots of medals, and returned home because of multiple war wounds..even a silver star. His Senate testimony confirmed what every hippie had been chanting on the streets.."Hey hey LBJ..How many kids did you kill today"?????
He obviously was running for political office in 1971.

Until Lt. John O' Neil, himself a Swifboat commander, spoke out before the 1972 elections against Kerry's outright deceptions, there was no one from the Swiftboat scene that could contradict Kerry's self serving lies.

I was a POW of the Vietnamese in Hanoi in 1971, and I am aware that the testimony of John Kerry, the actions of Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden, and the radical left; all caused the commies to conclude that if they hung on..they would win. North Vietnamese General Bui Tin commented that every day the Communist leadership listened to world news over the radio to follow the growth of the anti-war movement. Visits to Hanoi by Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark gave them confidence to hold in the face of battlefield reverses.
The guts of it was that propaganda from the anti-war group was part of their combat strategy.

While the Commies were hanging on, innumerable U.S. Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Air Foce members were being killed in combat.

Every battle wound to Americans after Kerry's misdirected testimony is related to Kerry's untruthfulness.

John Kerry contributed to every one of these deaths with his lies about U.S. atrocities in Vietnam.



He likewise defamed the U.S. with our allies and supporters.

His conduct also extended the imprisonment of the Vietnam Prisoners of War, of which I was one.

I am certain of at least one POW death after his testimony,
which might have been prevented with an earlier release of the POWs.

I draw a direct comparison of General Benedict Arnold of the Revolutionary War, to Lieutenant John Kerry. Both went off to war, fought, and then turned against their country. General Arnold crossed over to the British for money and position. John Kerry crossed over to the Vietnamese with his assistance to the anti-war movement, and his direct liason with the Vietnamese diplomats in Paris.
His reward. Political gain. Senator..United States.

“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW


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[CivilWarguy]

The following is the text of a "letter to the editor" I've written to the Sun Times. There's a lot more I could have said, but it would make the letter so long they wouldn't print it:


"Columnist William O'Rourke's Feb. 6th column ("Kerry should have made Vietnam angst work for him") is prize exhibit number one of how the American Left is out of touch with reality.

Mr. O'Rourke posits an America divided into two camps: the forces of thought, nuance and enlightenment (not surprisingly, those who agree with O'Rourke) versus the forces of ignorance and stupidity (the majority, who disagree with O'Rourke). To quote from the commentary, "52 percent" of Americans are "immune to subtlety and paradox" and reject "remarks that require too much thought... It often makes them ignore truth--and reality, as well--in pursuit of their objectives."

Ah, the subtlety of "Bush is Hitler", "I hate Bush", Michael Moore, the screams of Howard Dean. How could Americans not appreciate such nuance, such subtlety? And how could the American majority not appreciate being called ignorant boobs who "ignore truth--and reality"?

Such contempt-filled, broad-brush, anti-intellectual stereotyping by Mr. O'Rourke may make him, and his fellow elitist Liberals, feel all warm and fuzzy inside. To them it wasn't their fault John Kerry's message (with its 37 different positions on Iraq) didn't get through--it was the fault of the voters who were too stupid to appreciate the message!

I hope Mr. O'Rourke keeps writing such ranting columns, which only serve to embarrass the positions he takes."