Posted on 02/05/2005 6:02:00 AM PST by johnny7
That is an excellent suggestion! Thanks.
You don't.
I have to disagree to some extent. I live in a little college town with two churches, one Christian Church/Disciples of Christ (the college is affiliated with this denomination) and one Roman Catholic. The former is chock-full of lefties with Kerry bumper stickers still on their cars. They generally believe in no moral absolutes, are pro-homosexual and all the rest, but they faithfully attend every Sunday, send their kids to Sunday School to be further indoctrinated, and do all the typical things one might expect of a church member, from youth group to potluck dinners (except believing the Bible as the true, inerrant word of God, maybe, but let's not quibble!).
I attend a book club that meets in the church parlor, and I get the willies just walking into the building!
But no where that I am aware of, did Bush actually WIN the Jewish vote. He LOST the deeply religious Jewish vote less badly than he LOST the semi-religous Jewish vote. There is most decidedly a religious left.
The black churches are very influential in many people's lives and they always go for Democrats. That is your largest religious left group.
HOW could there not be a huge turnout among religious conservatives? If this is accurate, it is very disturbing. The election of 2004 was probably the most important of the last 50 years. The differences were clear. How true conservatives could "stay home" and not vote is beyond me.
No where in the story do you read that out of the 2750 religious people surveyed, how many voted for Bush and how many voted for Kerry.
They tell us worthless info about what percentage of Conservative Religious people voted for Bush and what percentage of the same group voted for Kerry. What part of Liberals tend to vote for Liberals and conservatives tend to vote for conservatives escapes them.
The Bush Campaign told its volunteers that Bush would get 70 percent of the votes of Church members. Rove's polling in Ohio done last summer, showed that Christians would vote 70 to 30 for Bush. There was a huge effort by the Bush campaign to get members of Churhes to the polls. They Bush campaign collected as many church diectory they could. The campaign was quite successful in recruiting members of churches to make personal calls to members of their own church to get out the vote.
The Bush Campaign tried to get all Church members to vote. They tried to get pastors to urge their congregations to vote. They did not ask them to tell their members for whom to vote. Rove's data showed that if all Church members voted Bush would get 70 percent of their votes. As far as the Bush campaign was concerned the more Church members that voted the better.
I suspect that this poll if accurate would show that Bush won nearly 70 percent of the votes of Church members. There has to be a reason why the Cleveland Plain Dealer obscured the most important fact learned in such a survey... how many voted for Bush and how many Voted for Kerry. The Bush campaign efforts to get the Religious vote only targeted those of us who are members of a church.
The people who claim to be religious and the people that are members of a church are two very different groups.
Religious left, religious right, religious moderates...so many tags so few definitions. What the hell is a religious moderate?
Johnny7 says in two lines what would take me two paragraphs. Yeah to that.
Ummm.... you describe the Christian Church/Disciples of Christ in your little college town as "chock-full of lefties with Kerry bumper stickers still on their cars. They generally believe in no moral absolutes, are pro-homosexual. . ." etc.
I am a long-time faithful member of this religious body, and I don't know ANYONE in my congregation who holds those beliefs, which are the complete opposite of what the church (and scripture) teaches. I'd be interested in knowing where you live.
Are you sure it's not UNITED Church of Christ or even Unitarian?
Exactly!
Re: "I've been meaning to ask her who she voted for."
I didn't know Pol Pot was on the ticket this year?
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