Dorm Brothel The new debauchery, and the colleges that let it happen.

Christianity Today ^ | January 21, 2005 | Vigen Guroian

[cyborg]

Marriage is a joke to a lot of young people today. Combine that with a materialistic, appearance obsessed media, and that makes trouble.

[Antoninus]

And I guarantee there are nice guys, er, men, and women, too, on campus who have completely asexualized themselves because they are terrified of this cr*p and aren't sure what to do to date normally and stay out of the sewer. I might well be one, were I in college today.

That was me in college 12 years ago--a "Catholic" college no less. I wanted in the worst way to find a nice girl to court--looking for marriage material. I discovered that there was NO interest in that. Hardly anyone I knew had a steady boyfriend/girlfriend. I only knew one girl who was not sexually active, and coincidentally, she was engaged. Of course, I made a play for her when the engagement fell through, but by that point, her mind had been poisoned and she started drifting into the "scene." By the time I stopped talking to her, she was chasing married men and drinking herself sick at parties.

As far as I'm concerned, sending your kids away to college is about the worst thing you can do. I'm going to offer to help my kids pay for college as long as they commute or attend one of the orthodox Catholic colleges like Christendom or Thomas Aquinas. Anything else, and they're on their own.

[Chemist_Geek]

And I guarantee there are nice guys, er, men, and women, too, on campus who have completely asexualized themselves because they are terrified of this cr*p and aren't sure what to do to date normally and stay out of the sewer.

And, then the problem is they never get some of the social experience education which is necessary to have legal, successful relationships later in life... Some never come back from their shells.

[malakhi]

Because the playground, where fights were once common, are filled with the sounds of ..... quiet.

You had me up until this. Playground fights should be seen as a good thing?

A 'man' will fight if he has to. But he isn't a bully, and he doesn't go around looking for trouble.

[Lancey Howard]

Still, in most American college coed dorms, the flesh of our daughters is being served up daily like snack jerky. No longer need young men be wolves or foxes to consume that flesh. There are no fences to jump or chicken coops to break into.

This author is certainly a vivid writer.

[Antoninus]

So when they find a man who is kind and attentive, they think that expressing a romantic interest - maybe leading to marriage - will drive him away.

That may be true for some. But I made it very clear to my "platonic" female friends that I was looking to get married soon after college. Such ideas scared the cr@p out of all of them. They wanted no parts of marriage--at least not until they were "ready" around age 35 or so. What they wanted was a train of men following them around. As I mentioned, none of them had steady boyfriends and most of them engaged in "hook-ups" from time to time.

[cyborg]

The girls are willing participants so I don't know if the author is correct with the whole 'serving it up thing'.

[Betis70]

thought provoking post bookmark.

[Xenalyte]

You went to Emory or Mercer, didn't you?

[Antoninus]

Is that seriously any different than walking all the way up one flight of stairs to the girls' floor? Or even walking the whole 50 feet to the girls' dorm in the next building?

Notice I said "dorms" not "floors." And it is different if they have a door monitor, and you have to sign in before you can go into the girls' dorm, and they keep track to make sure no one is "sleeping over." It's a huge difference. My brother had girls living across the hall from him at University of Delaware. The first time I went to visit him, there were girls in their underwear flouncing about in the halls. Talk about "near occasion of sin." My parents should have pulled him out right there.

[hopespringseternal]

One answer is that fatherlessness has left many young women with a pathological need for male attention.

Even when he is present, he is too busy ogling "Desperate Housewives" to pay much attention to her.

One of the things that strikes me about these kids is that they have no notion of responsibility or consequences. They are emotional toddlers when it comes to their sexuality. Yes, that image is disturbing, but it is accurate. We don't raise our children to maturity before puberty. We leave them to go out in the world at eighteen still very much unacquainted with responsibility. For that matter, we often send them out at 13 or 14 with an independence completely unfitting their foolishness.

So they drink and screw rampantly.

[Antoninus]

And, then the problem is they never get some of the social experience education which is necessary to have legal, successful relationships later in life... Some never come back from their shells.

What nonsense. Drinking yourself sick, taking drugs, and having sex with anything that moves is not "social experience." I was considered a "recluse" in college, but I attended the occasional party and had an utterly miserable time--and told people about it. I had no problem with "successful relationships" as long as the other person wasn't a degenerate. I proceeded to get married to a wonderful woman and have three kids to date. I now have plenty of friends, a great family, and a solid spiritual life. "Social experience" is over-rated at best. Catastrophically destructive at worst.

[cyborg]

There are whole industries built up around that 'foolishness'. Seen the house owned by Joe Francis?

[purpleland]

Not totally obliquely related:

Source: http://brynmawr.edu/alumnae:

Civil liberties advocate honored
Helen Bacon '40, Ph.D. '55 was presented the David Burres Award for Civil Liberties by the American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts in an April 29 ceremony at Smith College Archives.

As told by Barry Werth in The Scarlet Professor-Newton Arvin: A Literary Life Shattered by Scandal, Bacon organized fellow Smith faculty and students in 1960 on behalf of two younger professors, Joel Dorius and Ned Spofford, who were outed to police by Arvin after he was arrested on charges of possessing homosexual pornography. Smith allowed Arvin, an internationally renowned literary critic, to retire early, but the college's board of trustees fired Dorius and Spofford even after it was determine d that they were accomplished teachers who posed no threat to students. Bacon, with "fire springing out of her head," Dorius later said, pressured the board to reverse its decision, although the men were never rehired.

She has demurred that she does not deserve particular credit for helping Spofford and Dorius, saying "There were hundreds of us who helped." But she was herself being considered for tenure at the time, and is among those "heroes who speak out for civil liberties when it counts most-at the moment when individual rights are violated," said American Civil Liberties Union Director Ira Glasser. Bacon ultimately received tenure and left Smith for a distinguished career in classics at Barnard.

[hopespringseternal]

There are whole industries built up around that 'foolishness'.

Yep. It has almost complete destroyed the entertainment industry. Media moguls don't have to aim their fare at discriminating adults when the hormone-adled teenagers have all the money.

I remember reading about some teenybopper who saw Titanic an unbelievable number of times when it was in theaters. I remember calculating that she had spent several hundred dollars watching that movie.

Here is a clue, if you are a parent and your jobless teenager has hundreds of dollars to spend on entertainment, you are an idiot.

[Modernman]

I will never send my kids to any college with co-ed dorms. Such places invariably also have an abortion clinic on campus or right across the street.

We had co-ed floors and co-ed bathrooms at U. of Michigan. Not really a big deal, to tell you the truth.

[trumandogz]

Back in 1966 I am sure no kids in college were having sex.

[Modernman]

Why? Because the playground, where fights were once common, are filled with the sounds of ..... quiet.

Kids beating the snot out of each other is a good thing?

Guys don't fight anymore. They rent Fight Club, and pretend they do.

I've seen plenty of guys get into fights throughout my life. I've even been in a few myself. Other than defending yourself or another from an attack, what good can come of a fight?

Guys don't bleed anymore. They rent 'Kill Bill' and pretend they know what blood looks like.

Maybe we need a good old-fashioned civil war or foreign invasion to toughen us up? I suppose that is one solution....

Guys don't cry anymore.

Guys in our society whine and cry too much.

Guys don't grieve.

Guys should not show such emotions in public.

[Tax-chick]

I get the impression that you're a man.

[Tax-chick]

I understand. I've been married 16 years (this Friday). The trend was "downhill" even in the late '80's, but things are much worse now. And of course, you're in New York.