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Bill Gates says China has created brand-new form of capitalism (and praises Communist leaders)
Agence France Presse ^ | January 29, 2005

Posted on 01/29/2005 1:07:29 AM PST by HAL9000

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To: OpusatFR

Ah yes Bill. You extol exactly what the CCP leaders love, the weakness of capitalism (as they perceive them). Whores will do anything for money and capitalists will do anything for markets.

He is right about the Chinese leaders being smart, they are playing the EU,US and WTO like a violin.


41 posted on 01/29/2005 4:59:25 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: HAL9000

Comrade Gates failed to add that they "enforce" their "capitalism" with the gun and the noose. Gates is just another in the long line of capitalists that turn communist "after" they accrue their wealth.


42 posted on 01/29/2005 5:03:09 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: cynicom

He's not turning commie. Rich guys have always been fascinated with China because of the population and potential customers. Most of them lose their shirts in the end.


43 posted on 01/29/2005 5:04:32 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: HAL9000
Regardless of what Mr. Gates or anyone else says - everybody has to be somewhere on this earth and we have to accommodate each other. In this world we have to deal with economic forces whatever their underpinning. Otherwise, what is the alternative?

How we accommodate and live with each other is the question. If we don't deal with each other, including recognition of the commercial ebbs and flows of demand and what cause these demands we will not compete on a worldwide bases. We have to be aware of what the other fellow is doing and be open to how to deal with and accommodate the rapidly approaching world wide economic and social changes - in large part being brought on by the expanding world population.

Someone has to be looking 30 years ahead and further - it is obvious, if man survives, my grand children and their children will be living in a very different world.

44 posted on 01/29/2005 5:06:14 AM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: HAL9000

Sweatshops are hardly a new invention.
Just proves that your degree of wealth is not correlated to your degree of wisdom.


45 posted on 01/29/2005 5:06:40 AM PST by atchoo2
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To: durasell
Communism is just socialism with a gun. If Gates can abide their brand of "socialism" for whatever reason and others think it is just money, so be it.

The clue is his statement about medical costs etc.

46 posted on 01/29/2005 5:11:50 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: Jimbaugh
Gates is a DORK and is out of his league. He let the Democrats in the US nearly sue him out of existance.

Not just the rats. RINOs like Bob "Ahole" Dole, were also suing Microsoft. Billy G's problem was he that was not, as the Mafiosi say, "kicking up" to his masters in DC in the form of campaign contributions. Big corps. are expected to feed the Republicrat/Demopublican Party machine

47 posted on 01/29/2005 5:16:00 AM PST by StockAyatollah
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To: cynicom

I suspect that his comments weren't actually directed at the West (meaning us), but at Beijing (meaning the three guys who will let him peddle software in China).


48 posted on 01/29/2005 5:18:16 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: HAL9000

I wonder if China will start to crack down on M$ piracy.


49 posted on 01/29/2005 5:19:02 AM PST by evolved_rage (Sign the 180 Johnny F'ing Kerry Heinz)
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To: durasell
Even to the richest man in the world there comes a time when more money is secondary, he turns his mind to other endeavors.

American history is replete with men that have "accumulated" vast wealth one way or another, and then their interest turns to attaining power over the masses. It is like an elixir to such people, they are assured that they indeed know what is best for mankind, even if the gun and noose has to be used for mans own good.

50 posted on 01/29/2005 5:32:38 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: HAL9000

Bump


51 posted on 01/29/2005 5:44:36 AM PST by A. Pole (Hash Bimbo: "Low wage is good for you!")
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To: HAL9000

"New form," Bill?? Nah, simply the same used in the pre-civil war south....slave-based capitalism.


52 posted on 01/29/2005 5:50:53 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: HAL9000
Bill Gates Sees Dollar's Slide Continuing
Saturday January 29, 4:22 am ET
Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates Sees Dollar's Slide Continuing

DAVOS, Switzerland (AP) -- Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates says he believes the slide of dollar will continue.

"The dollar is going to go down, there's no question," the founder of the world's largest software maker said at a media event at the World Economic Forum late Friday.

The dollar's decline has been a particular worry for European leaders who see that hurting the competitiveness of European economies and hampering their growth perspectives. A cheap dollar keeps American tourists away from Europe and makes European imports into the United States expensive.

The euro hit a record high of more than US$1.36 at the end of December, though it has since fallen back. It traded at US$1.30 Friday, still up almost 9 percent in the past six months.

European leaders, including German Economics Minister Wolfgang Clement, have taken the United States to task over its ballooning current account and budget deficits, which they blame for the dollar's decline.

Policy makers for the Group of Seven leading industrial nations meet in London next week when they're expected to discuss the dollar's weakness.


Somebody in Davos over there hedged the wrong way, got an agenda, or just prescient? Or dreaming about making money in Yuan and not dollars? If he's talking euro, he's gonna be disappointed.

Nicollo unmasked: Bromleyisms here

53 posted on 01/29/2005 6:04:14 AM PST by nicollo
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To: cynicom

Only crack pots and semi-cracked pots come to mind in regards to rich guys wanting to rule the world...can't think of any others. In any event, Gates probably just wants to sell software in China. This is not as benign as it sounds, but neither is it as sinister as could be imagined.


54 posted on 01/29/2005 6:08:07 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
I see nothing sinister at all. It is natural progression, poor man becomes very wealthy, now what to do.

This was the same course followed by Robert Owen when he created socialism. Along comes a poor man, Marx, swipes Owens idea and we have communism. The difference being that Marx and his followers were perfectly willing to use the gun and the noose to force the masses to accept what was best for them. The last time I looked, China considered themselves to be Marxists.

55 posted on 01/29/2005 6:19:51 AM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: Blackyce

Plain old fashioned Gramscian Socialism, i.e. Nazis.


56 posted on 01/29/2005 6:26:12 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: cynicom

Gates was never poor. He always went to the best schools and used his family contacts to the best of his advantage. The fact that he "looked poor" in his younger days shouldn't fool you.


57 posted on 01/29/2005 6:50:06 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Peach

"Gates should read Gertz's new book on how China armed Iraq"good point Peach,but do you think he cares?


58 posted on 01/29/2005 7:30:36 AM PST by thombo
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To: Blackyce
The new capitalism. Capitalism without civil rights or liberties. Slavery, in other words.

But the good news is, Bill Gates is getting even richer thanks to Chinese slave labor.

Bill Gates = slave master

59 posted on 01/29/2005 7:33:59 AM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: thombo

I'm sure you're right; Gates wouldn't care.


60 posted on 01/29/2005 7:34:01 AM PST by Peach
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