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1 posted on 01/27/2005 10:37:51 PM PST by quidnunc
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Tastes like.....?


2 posted on 01/27/2005 10:40:13 PM PST by msnimje
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All cultures are equal.

Who's to say who's right and who's wrong?

Que se yo?

The summer wind
came blowing in
from across the sea...

3 posted on 01/27/2005 10:41:09 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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If all the American Indian tribes came from the same Bering Sea crossers how come the ones in S. America became human sacrificers and the N. American Indians did not? Or am I just assumeing this?


4 posted on 01/27/2005 10:43:33 PM PST by mercy (20 years a Gates sucker was enough)
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Hardly news. If you want to read facinating accounts of human sacrifice rituals in the New World and just about everywhere else in the World, read Frazer's "Golden Bough." Quite horrifying things were done on a very regular basis.


6 posted on 01/27/2005 10:46:50 PM PST by Williams
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I can't understand why anyone would find this surprising, or even scandalous. Primitive peoples have always indulged in cannibalism; ritual and otherwise. Part of it is based on the universal superstition regarding the transferabilty of "spirit" from one entity to another.


7 posted on 01/27/2005 10:48:04 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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I can't see any functional difference between this and Wahab Islam.


9 posted on 01/27/2005 10:49:50 PM PST by Natural Law
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all culture is relative....all culture is relative.....all culture is relative....all culture is relative.

NOT!


16 posted on 01/27/2005 11:01:47 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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"New finds from an archaeological site near Mexico City support certain written and pictorial evidence concerning Aztec human sacrifice that historians previously doubted because the accounts seemed too exaggerated to be true.

Modern "historians" (revisionists) only doubted these stories because to do so would cast a suspicious and evil eye onto the Catholic Church, of which Cortez was a member. The historcial evidence that Cortez and his small band of men witnessed the horrific sacrifice of babies and females is ample; but rejecting this historical evidence has enabled the liberals to attack the Spanish Explorers, (Catholics), by claiming they unfairly conquered and oppressed the native populations.

When one thinks of how little evidence these "historians" need as "proof" to assert that the likes of Columbus and the Spanish explorers were nothing but brutal conquerers and oppressers of innocent natives it becomes neauseatingly clear that they filter everything through an anti Christian mindset.

18 posted on 01/27/2005 11:02:09 PM PST by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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We found a burial pit with the skeletal remains of four children who were partially burned, and the remains of four other children that were completely carbonized."

Archaeologists discover the Aztecs were notoriously bad cooks, their empire having never discovered the meat thermometer.

20 posted on 01/27/2005 11:05:53 PM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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That filth raised people to eat them - kind of a feed lot thing.


22 posted on 01/27/2005 11:07:48 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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Thanks quidnunc. Added to the GGG catalog, but no ping to the list, similar to another.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

25 posted on 01/27/2005 11:13:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (In the long run, there is only the short run.)
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Can you imagine THIS culture surviving into the 21st century? Thank God for the conquistadors!


26 posted on 01/27/2005 11:14:16 PM PST by TheRealDBear
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Had Europeans not colonized the Americas a visiting tourist of today would probably find the menu in the Native American restaurants rather unappealing.


29 posted on 01/27/2005 11:18:44 PM PST by Larry381
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I recall reading that Indian tribes (in today's eastern U.S.) would dismember their captives, roast their limbs and eat them before their victim's eyes. I also remember reading a diary of frontier life in Ohio where a settler had his abdomen cut open, one end of his bowels tied to a tree and he was forced to walk around the tree, wrapping his entrails around it, before he died. The brutality gave me the shivers.


33 posted on 01/27/2005 11:28:06 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Part of it was religion, part of it pure terrorism. The Aztecs were aggressive imperialists, and one reason the Conquistadores found it so easy to conquer them was that their subject peoples were happy to see the Spanish do it. The thing with the beating heart and the obsidian knife at the top of the pyramid wasn't done to their own people, it was done to prisoners.

We're not much better. We have the IRS.

34 posted on 01/27/2005 11:28:10 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Not really blockbuster news.

It has been known for a long time they had some gruesome practices.

I get the groups mixed up, but one of the Meso-American ancient cultures even played soccer with human heads.


37 posted on 01/27/2005 11:34:48 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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I was walking to the Rose Bowl a couple years ago and the San Diego State fans were doing some of the very same rituals....that and smoking a lot of pot.


40 posted on 01/27/2005 11:39:55 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: quidnunc; Williams; Mr Ramsbotham
Ever heard about The Donner Party that was lost in the High Sierras of California in 1846?

There are a couple of very good books about what really happened during that severe Winter. Read them when I was in high school. I hiked into that area when I was in my twenties and could not believe the isolation and deathly quiet near the site. This years severe Winter storms may have caused the Park Rangers in Donner Park to reflect back on what happened in 1846.

Over the next four months, the eighty-one remaining men, women, and children huddled together in two abandoned cabins*, make shift lean-tos, and tents. The cattle had all been killed and eaten by mid-December; one man had died of malnutrition. The people began to eat bark, twigs, and boiled hides.

In desperation, a group of nine men, five women, and a twelve year old boy packed scanty rations and on snowshoes made from oxbows and rawhide, set out to cross the pass for help. They called themselves the Forlorn Hope. Nine days later they realized they had become lost in the snow-covered mountains. Completely without food for three days and on the verge of starvation a suggestion was made to draw lots; the loser would sacrifice his life to save the others. Patrick Dolan drew the fatal slip, but no one could bring themselves to kill him. Malnutrition soon carried out what the group could not do. Two other men followed quickly. Ten members of the Forlorn Hope butchered their dead companions, then wrapped and carefully labeled the packages so no one would have to consume their relatives. The two Indians who had accompanied the group as guides refused the gruesome nourishment and vanished into the woods. (1)

* * * It took four relief parties two months to get all the survivors out. The second relief party, led by James Reed, reported that when they arrived at the camp, “half-eaten bodies” littered the ground and the survivors “surrounded by the remains of their unholy feast, looked more like demons than human beings.”

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(1) Native America Plains Tribes did not eat white folks who were coming across in covered wagons. They had millions of buffalo to feast upon and other wild game to eat. Kevin Costner got the history mostly correct in "Dances with Wolves" and won an Academy Award for his efforts.

55 posted on 01/28/2005 12:57:41 AM PST by ex-Texan (Image Worth is Equal to About One Thousand Words)
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This kinda blows the whole image of Native Americans as "noble savages" oppressed by those evil white Christian men that is taught in every school in America, eh?

I'll be sure to celebrate Columbus Day with much more vigor from now on! :)

58 posted on 01/28/2005 3:28:39 AM PST by Walkin Man
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Lies Lies Lies. The native people were a peaceful nature loving people prior to the Arival of the Europeans. Todays history teachers say so. "sarcasm"


THE HEADHUNTERS OF VANCOUVER ISLAND.
If you get time, read about North American's only Headhunters, the Kwakiutl Indians who lived on Vancouver Island in the Pacific Northwest.


69 posted on 01/28/2005 5:45:00 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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