Archaeologist Unearths Bibical Controversy

Globe And Mail ^ | 1-25-2005 | Michael Valpy

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[satchmodog9]

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[SandRat]

...unearthing information that points to the existence of the Bible's vilified Kingdom of Edom at precisely the time the Bible says it existed,...

Gee imagine that! The Old Testament and the Torah are accurate documents as revealed by GOD.

[maine-iac7]

Gee imagine that! The Old Testament and the Torah are accurate documents as revealed by GOD.

hmmm - and more and more evidence of the truth concerning Noah's Ark - with photos! - and the information on the The Shroud of Turin soon to break into the news wider than ever, what with the 2006 winter Olympics to be held in Turin, home of the Shroud - ...think God might be turning up the volume?

[VNam68]

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[bahblahbah]

What?

[LiteKeeper]

I have suspected this for quite awhile.

[geopyg]

"It is intriguing that at Khirbat en-Nahas, our large Iron Age fort is dated to just this period, suggesting conflict as a central concern even at a remote copper-production site."

I suppose copperwas used somehow to help them fight - so it WOULD be a central concern.

It was only a few years ago as I recall that they actually uncovered a historical artifact that mentions a "King David" from around that time. "Before that - it was just a story".

[LachlanMinnesota]

amendments?

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

There are forts older than this all over that area of the middle east; how on earth does this prove or disprove the existence of an Edomite state at a particular point in time?

This is just more axe grinding: seizing any particle of "evidence" to "prove" something you already believed without proof.

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

Gee imagine that! The Old Testament and the Torah are accurate documents as revealed by GOD.

Non sequitur.

[SedVictaCatoni]

I suppose copperwas used somehow to help them fight - so it WOULD be a central concern.

Copper was used to make bronze, the primary metal for arms and armor. (Hence "Bronze Age".)

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

I believe the alleged artifact referred to a "house of David" which is interesting, but would be like proving that there was a president Bush of the USA, three thousand years after the fact, based on the chance discovery of a can of Bush's Baked Beans.

Piecing together archeology is like trying to put together a jigsaw puzzle, with 99% of the pieces lost or missing. Trying to make dogmatic assertions based on fragmentary evidence is a chancy business at best. You're as liable to end up with egg on your face as not.

[geopyg]

Duh! For some reason I was thinking brass - but that's fairly soft. Thanks!

[SengirV]

"ey applied high-precision radiocarbon-dating methods to some of their finds, and as they say in the British journal Antiquities, "The results were spectacular."

Uh oh, the creationists can't use this as a win since they employ RCD to date the findings. Well, they will, but then they will say how horrible RCD is anyway.

[the_Watchman]

Focus on the Family produced a very interesting archaeological film series on the holy land. It is called "That the World Should Know". One of the segments is about Edom.

The story shows the ruins of one of Herod's palaces which is in the same valley as Bethlehem. The palace was one of the five largest in the world at the time of the birth of Jesus and visible from Bethlehem. It was completely walled and built on the top of a hill. It was several stories high with living quarters for Herod's family on the top floor and quarters for troops in the walls. Jesus was born literally "In the Shadow of Herod", the name of the program.

Now Herod was an Admen or Edomite. His family had built a series of palaces a day's march apart from Jerusalem down to Edom in the south. These palaces served as forts which gave him an escape route back to his family.

When Esau and Jacob were born, the promise of the Old Testament was that "the older would serve the younger".

So now picture the traditional manger scene: The shepherds approach the baby Jesus, the son of Jacob, while they can see the literal might of Herod, the descendant of Esau, in the distance. What irony! What faith! What hope!

How many times and in how many ways do we decide that "Herod" is in charge today?

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[ChicagoHebrew]

Who said the book of Samuel was revealed by God? Not Jews or Christians .... it was "revealed" by history and men.