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First 'Survivor' Winner Dodged Taxes: Prosecutors
Excite ^ | 1/18/2005 | Reuters

Posted on 01/18/2005 12:11:11 PM PST by OrangeDaisy

Jan 18, 2:18 PM (ET)

BOSTON (Reuters) - He survived one of the toughest tests of reality television but now Richard Hatch, the first winner of the U.S. TV series "Survivor," is facing his toughest challenge yet.

Hatch failed to report the $1 million he won on "Survivor," federal prosecutors said on Tuesday as they charged him with filing false tax returns.

The 43-year-old Hatch, whose brash strategizing propelled him to victory in 2000's "Survivor" series on CBS, is charged on two counts in a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Providence, Rhode Island.

Prosecutors said Hatch not only failed to report his $1 million winnings in federal tax returns but also left off more than $300,000 that a Boston radio station paid him to co-host a program in 2001.

Hatch, who lives in Newport, Rhode Island, could face up to 10 years in prison and a $500,000 fine if convicted on both counts, prosecutors said in a statement. He was due to be arraigned on Monday in Providence, they said.

Hatch was not immediately available for comment.

The first "Survivor" became a ratings sensation and helped spark a boom in reality-based TV shows.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Rhode Island
KEYWORDS: cbs; hatch; providence; survivor; taxes; winner
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How can CBS get by with not withholding taxes from this check? I thought if income was deemed to be taxable, you had to withhold at the supplemental rate of whatever it is these days (26%?).
1 posted on 01/18/2005 12:11:17 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: OrangeDaisy

He could have been classified as an independent contractor....not an employee. CBS is not obligated to withhold taxes from a non-employee.....so far as I know. Mr. Hatch will be somebody's girlfriend in jail. Maybe he'll get a new reality show from all of this. ;-)


2 posted on 01/18/2005 12:13:09 PM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: OrangeDaisy

I smell a sequel: "Survival II-the Joint".


3 posted on 01/18/2005 12:13:41 PM PST by Spok
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To: OrangeDaisy
Hatch failed to report the $1 million he won on "Survivor,"

There’s a good plan. It’s not like anybody knew he won.

5 posted on 01/18/2005 12:14:14 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: OrangeDaisy

Beats me. What's the tax law on the little island in the middle of nowhere where he earned the money? (I know, I know, it'd never work, but it'd be fun to watch him try.)


6 posted on 01/18/2005 12:14:27 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: OrangeDaisy

Johnny-come-lately.

7 posted on 01/18/2005 12:15:48 PM PST by Huck (I only type LOL when I'm really LOL.)
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To: OrangeDaisy
Did he win on U.S. soil or in whatever god foresaken hell hole they'd been living?

I only ask because if he won it in another country it's possible they wouldn't have been required to withhold.
8 posted on 01/18/2005 12:16:13 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: dead

He thought he could survive the IRS. What a maroon.


9 posted on 01/18/2005 12:16:37 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Spok

From what I've heard about what happens in men's prison he might feel right at home.


10 posted on 01/18/2005 12:17:27 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal

Thats what I was thinking - NOBODY survives the IRS


11 posted on 01/18/2005 12:17:48 PM PST by Clintons Are White Trash (Helen Thomas, Molly Ivins, Maureen Dowd - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: OrangeDaisy
How can CBS get by with not withholding taxes from this check?

They probably did withhold taxes. The idiot didn't declare the income is my guess, so he probably got a refund.

12 posted on 01/18/2005 12:20:55 PM PST by skip_intro
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To: Wolfie
An American being paid by an American company for work in a foreign land is still liable for US income taxes, though they can generally deduct the amount they pay to their host country.

(I'm not an accountant, but I created the online help file for my company's expatriat management system, which makes me about one tenth of an expert.)

13 posted on 01/18/2005 12:22:11 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: OrangeDaisy

Presumably he got a 1099, and 1099 income doesn't require withholding of any kind.


14 posted on 01/18/2005 12:23:03 PM PST by angkor
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To: OrangeDaisy

Another blow the the homosexuals are just like everyone else.. first they find out McGreevy's gay and corrupt and now Hatch is corrupt as well.


15 posted on 01/18/2005 12:24:03 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: OrangeDaisy

It's not an income check, it's a prize, just like winnings in Vegas. All they need to do is file the right paperwork that says they gave X amount of "unearned" income to this person with this SocSec at the end of the year and they're golden.


16 posted on 01/18/2005 12:24:38 PM PST by discostu (mime is money)
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To: Bikers4Bush

You don't need to be in a foreign country to get 1099 income, which requires no withholding.

And on the other hand, U.S. citizens cannot avoid any part of federal tax law merely by being in a foreign country.


17 posted on 01/18/2005 12:25:32 PM PST by angkor
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To: OrangeDaisy

You.. can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You can be a millionaire... and never pay taxes!

You say.. "Steve,... how can I be a millionaire.... and never pay taxes?"

First.. get a million dollars. Now... you say, "Steve.. what do I say to the tax man when he comes to my door and says, 'You.. have never paid taxes'?"

Two simple words. Two simple words in the English language: "I forgot!"

How many times do we let ourselves get into terrible situations because we don't say "I forgot"? Let's say you're on trial for armed robbery. You say to the judge, "I forgot armed robbery was illegal." Let's suppose he says back to you, "You have committed a foul crime. you have stolen hundreds and thousands of dollars from people at random, and you say, 'I forgot'?"....

Two simple words: Excuuuuuse me!!!"


18 posted on 01/18/2005 12:25:59 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: OrangeDaisy

Steve Martin on SNL:

"You.. can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You can be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes! You say.. "Steve.. how can I be a millionaire.. and never pay taxes?" First.. get a million dollars. Now.. you say, "Steve.. what do I say to the tax man when he comes to my door and says, 'You.. have never paid taxes'?" Two simple words. Two simple words in the English language: "I forgot!" How many times do we let ourselves get into terrible situations because we don't say "I forgot"? Let's say you're on trial for armed robbery. You say to the judge, "I forgot armed robbery was illegal." Let's suppose he says back to you, "You have committed a foul crime. you have stolen hundreds and thousands of dollars from people at random, and you say, 'I forgot'?" Two simple words: Excuuuuuse me!!"


19 posted on 01/18/2005 12:26:17 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: Hatteras

Dam you! You beat me to the punch!


20 posted on 01/18/2005 12:27:12 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: So Cal Rocket; Hatteras

Creepy.


21 posted on 01/18/2005 12:27:25 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dead
An American being paid by an American company for work in a foreign land

Americans are subject to U.S. federal taxes no matter where they are and no matter who cuts the check.

Most countries levy their own taxes on Americans working in their country for, say, more than 3 or 6 months. American can deduct those foreign tax payments from their U.S. Federal taxes.

22 posted on 01/18/2005 12:29:03 PM PST by angkor
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To: So Cal Rocket; Hatteras

Wow! 18 seconds apart.


That's impressive.


23 posted on 01/18/2005 12:29:25 PM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: So Cal Rocket
Dang, it's a good thing I didn't take the time to go back and post the accompanying picture... ;-)

But, I like how you think!

24 posted on 01/18/2005 12:33:03 PM PST by Hatteras
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To: cuz_it_aint_their_money
Pingin' Survivor news
25 posted on 01/18/2005 12:34:08 PM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: OrangeDaisy

Good news. I hated that guy from the first second I saw him on TV.


26 posted on 01/18/2005 12:34:38 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: So Cal Rocket; Hatteras

Are you two absolutely SURE that you're not related?


27 posted on 01/18/2005 12:34:38 PM PST by politicket
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To: Thinkin' Gal

God forbid! By all means, a productive person of society should have the wrath of the federal government on his head, while those on various welfare and or government programs, or even the politician's own pork, make off with their fraud. Our government's failure to audit (due to lack of bodies), prosecute and/or dedicate the same amount of aggressiveness against the non-productive peoples and pigs of society goes on with little complaint and no action.


28 posted on 01/18/2005 12:35:12 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: angkor

If they paid him and issued him a 1099 that would make sense that they didn't withold.

That may be so but if you are living and working in a foreign country you are not taxed at the same rate if at all.

He could try to make that claim but I doubt it'd hold up.

I'm just specualting and asking questions.


29 posted on 01/18/2005 12:35:59 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: So Cal Rocket; Hatteras

I'm thrilled my post led to a Steve Martin reference! I love his humor, especially from his SNL days!


30 posted on 01/18/2005 12:36:59 PM PST by OrangeDaisy
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To: OrangeDaisy

A gay millionaire streaker in the big house? He'll have lots of friends.


31 posted on 01/18/2005 12:37:43 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: HamiltonJay
Another blow the the homosexuals are just like everyone else.. first they find out McGreevy's gay and corrupt and now Hatch is corrupt as well.

Wait a minute man, everyone is corrupt. I bet theres more straight tax dodgers than homosexual tax dodgers... cause I'm willing to bet theres more straight people than homosexual people. :) Anyways. I'm not saying homosexuality is right... I'm just saying you're comparing oranges and apples.

32 posted on 01/18/2005 12:40:15 PM PST by PureSolace (A Conservative bases his politics from his morals, and a Liberal bases his morals from his politics.)
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To: OrangeDaisy
How can CBS get by with not withholding taxes from this check? I thought if income was deemed to be taxable, you had to withhold at the supplemental rate of whatever it is these days (26%?).

He was not an employee. Was probably paid off invoice and received a 1099.
33 posted on 01/18/2005 12:40:51 PM PST by Beckwith (John Kerry has now met with the enemy during war two times, once in 1970 and once in 2005.)
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To: OrangeDaisy

My only hope is that it was Susan that turned him in and got a reward for it!

NOW THAT WOULD BE A SWEET!


34 posted on 01/18/2005 12:42:02 PM PST by Area51
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To: OrangeDaisy

They probably 1099'd him.


35 posted on 01/18/2005 12:42:26 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: PureSolace

Oh I wasn't implying all gays are corrupt... just it does seem that self destructive behavior seems to be part of many of their lives.... including and excluding their sexual proclivities.


36 posted on 01/18/2005 12:46:45 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Bikers4Bush
That may be so but if you are living and working in a foreign country you are not taxed at the same rate if at all.

Not true. If you take a job in another country you still have to pay US income taxes on the money (after allowable deductions for taxes paid in the country earned).

This is one of the big problems with the US tax code. Foreign earned income is still taxable in the US. When you hear about a company incorporating on some small deserted island to "avoid paying taxes", the taxes they are talking about are the taxes earned in other countries, not all taxes.

37 posted on 01/18/2005 12:47:00 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: OrangeDaisy
According to the complaint he was given a 1099 for $1,010,000 (he got $10k to do the finale).

He also failed to report over $300k in earnings from co-hosting a radio program in 2001.

Don't know how someone could be so stupid. Ain't like the IRS did not know he existed.

38 posted on 01/18/2005 12:47:58 PM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: OrangeDaisy

Probably issued a W-9 for the payment.


39 posted on 01/18/2005 12:48:34 PM PST by JimRed (Investigate, overturn and prosecute vote fraud in the State of Washington !)
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To: Bikers4Bush

According to the complaint, he did not win the prize until the final show, which was in the US.


40 posted on 01/18/2005 12:49:54 PM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: ContemptofCourt

Got it thanks. That's what I was wondering.


41 posted on 01/18/2005 12:50:29 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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if you are living and working in a foreign country you are not taxed at the same rate if at all.

I don't think this fellow Hatch was living abroad, but if so:

One must be resident abroad 320 days of the current tax year to obtain the U.S. foreign exclusion deduction. Right now, that exclusion is about the first $80K of gross, foreign-earned income.

Any remaining income (above $80K) is taxed at the U.S. tax rate, less deductions such as *foreign tax payments* (which are usually required after 90 to 180 days of residency in another country).

The deduction for foreign taxes and the $80K exclusion are the only "benefits" afforded to expats by the U.S. tax code.

But I've been through this before, and the calculations can get rather complex. Since most foreign tax rates are so ridiculously high, expats usually will need an increase in salary to break even versus working in the U.S., *even computing the $80K U.S. tax exclusion*.

42 posted on 01/18/2005 12:53:55 PM PST by angkor
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To: PureSolace
I bet theres more straight tax dodgers than homosexual tax dodgers

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

43 posted on 01/18/2005 12:55:05 PM PST by angkor
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To: angkor

Cool thanks. I was wondering what the code says.


44 posted on 01/18/2005 12:55:51 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Phantom Lord
Foreign earned income is still taxable in the US.

And get this: the U.S. is the only industrialized country in the world that taxes foreign expat workers, who are typically paying taxes wherever they work abroad.

45 posted on 01/18/2005 12:57:44 PM PST by angkor
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To: OrangeDaisy

Well Richard Hatch, there are only two things certain in life:Death and taxes and since you are not deceased, Uncle Sam wants his money.I am sure making 28 cents an hour in the joint you will have the IRS paid back in 300 years!


46 posted on 01/18/2005 12:58:10 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Bikers4Bush
I was wondering what the code says.

Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine.

47 posted on 01/18/2005 1:00:24 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: OrangeDaisy

Let us not forget that this is the same sodomite who was arrested for abuse of his adopted. Strangely, the charges were dropped about a month before CBS had their first Survivor season finale and Hatch was awarded the prize.

He was also arrested for domestic violence against his "partner" - after he got his "son" back.

Wow - a loudmouthed, sneaky, "LOOK AT MEEEE!" sodomite with a history of violent and anti-social behavior is now found out to be a tax cheat! Color me shocked!

Yet - the MSM will still put him on a pedestal. Part of the joys of being in a protected class, I suppose.


48 posted on 01/18/2005 1:01:29 PM PST by ItsOurTimeNow (Be Thou my wisdom and Thou my true word)
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To: Phantom Lord
Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine.

Still thinking about Ralphy three weeks later, eh?

50 posted on 01/18/2005 1:02:38 PM PST by angkor
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