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London - Red hair may be the genetic legacy of Neanderthals...
Planet Save.com ^ | 1/14/05 | Planet Save.com

Posted on 01/16/2005 12:47:07 PM PST by IGBT

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To: IGBT
The same info from the same institute was reported 3 years ago.
82 posted on 01/16/2005 2:25:41 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: dangus
All true enough, 'ceptin' the Irish who moved to Wales long about the 9th through the 12th centuries have the highest incidence of red-hair of any population in the world ~ about 40%!

The darker color you refer to is NOT the original color of the general Irish population ~ rather, it's just a process of recessive genes for those characteristics becoming more widespread. That way there's simply more opportunity for two recessives to come together and give you the dark ones.

The original Scanderhoovian people were the Sa'ami, and they are in all essential respects the same as the ancient Sumerians, possibly the Dravidians, and also the foundational population in the part of China were Shang Dynasty glyphs were developed. When in Sumer, where they invented writing, they called themselves the "black headed people".

Those red-haired fellows are the descendants of Irish slaves so prized by the Vikings. I gather there was something of a shortage of women in that society, so they had to bring home girls from wherever they could be found.

83 posted on 01/16/2005 2:27:07 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: Wallace T.
I am amazed at your wealth of knowledge and hope you can help me out with a character I am working on. Whenever I think of English, I tend to see tall and blonde with blue or gray eyes and fair to olive skin. I realize this may have more to do with the Scandinavian origins, but was also curious to know what general traits the Flemish would exhibit? The character I am developing is from 18th century England, Wiltshire, and has the physical attributes I have just described. Would that be a fitting area for him to be from, or should I chose another part of the British isles where those characteristics would be more dominant?????

best regards,
Alkhin

84 posted on 01/16/2005 2:31:09 PM PST by Alkhin (Tributaries - http://awanderingconfluence.com/blog)
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To: fella

I am sure my husband would totally disagree with you about redheaded tempers. </sarcasm


85 posted on 01/16/2005 2:34:22 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: TheLionessRN
Ireland was originally called Scota, after the Great Goddess. It was renamed later on to Ireland, after one of the three sons of Mil who invaded circa 700 BC. He was named Ir.

Alba, the Northern portion of Great Brittain, was then renamed Scotland by invading Scots from what is now Ireland.

Ir came from Galicia, or, as it is more properly known "Carvajal", which is the country just to the West of the Basque territories in the Spanish peninsula.

No doubt many Basque servants were taken by their Gaelic speaking lords in Carvajal to the new lands in Scota (now Ireland). The result is that for the most part there is no genetic difference of any significance between the Basque and Irish populations. Hover, the Basques speak Basque, and the Irish speak English.

As a practical matter, just about 100% of the population in the lands adjacent to the Bay of Biscay are closely related. This proves that mankind has made use of boats in the dating process for a very long time.

86 posted on 01/16/2005 2:34:34 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: IGBT
Make sure the carpet matches the drapes!
87 posted on 01/16/2005 2:39:03 PM PST by Spirochete
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To: Lion in Winter
George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, General Daniel Morgan, Alexander Hamilton, General Layfayette, And countless other Revolutionary War heroes and patriots were ALL REDHEADS.

As were most of the well known British pirates. At least they were according to tradition.

Before someone brings up the matter of Bluebeard's coloration, remember that I said most pirates.

88 posted on 01/16/2005 2:42:06 PM PST by epow
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To: Wallace T.
Speaking of "Kings of Norway", we have McDonald, Lord of the Isles (or of Skye), King of Norway ~ and variations on the spellings and titles ~ all one guy.

People sometimes forget that "Norway" was more a state of mind than a single country located on the Western shore of the Scandinavian peninsula.

I ran into this fellow when I suddenly realized one day in working on a genealogical trail that both the Donnell and Hughes family in who I had an interest were more likely Norwegian than Welsh and Scots, and so they were!

90 posted on 01/16/2005 2:42:28 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: IGBT; blam; SunkenCiv
Bump
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91 posted on 01/16/2005 2:44:41 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: fella
The powderkeg thing is, of course, a trait close to that providing the red-hair, and a thin-skin, and the smarts to see through the deadly haze that seems to have engulfed the minds of so many of the other type of people in this world.

Oh, yeah!

93 posted on 01/16/2005 2:46:08 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: muir_redwoods

Leonardo Da Vinci was freed from Padua to go to France by Rene d'Anjou, a red-head.


94 posted on 01/16/2005 2:48:56 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: IGBT

Geez! My red headed math PhD son is a what???????


95 posted on 01/16/2005 2:49:59 PM PST by litehaus
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To: chemical_boy

Ha! What a belly-rumbler.

Well Done.


96 posted on 01/16/2005 2:51:56 PM PST by Natchez Hawk
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To: muawiyah

Hi there! Would you be able to answer the question I have asked TWallace as well?


97 posted on 01/16/2005 2:54:12 PM PST by Alkhin (Tributaries - http://awanderingconfluence.com/blog)
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To: IGBT

My wife is very much a redhead. Several years ago she had surgery. The female doctor that did the surgery came out and was talking to me while my wife was in recovery. The doctor said she believes that redheads are a distinct and separate race from all other humans. She said they react to medications and anesthesia different than any other races.

My wife takes high blood pressure medication. The doctor told her she would always be cold and she is always warm. If a medication says it causes drowsiness, it makes her wide awake and an insomniac. Maybe there is something to this theory.


98 posted on 01/16/2005 3:01:47 PM PST by ORECON (Condi Rice/Ann Coulter 2008)
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To: Floyd R Turbo
Don't confound the Germans with the Celts. According to the ancient Greeks the "Germans" were primitive people whose tribes paid tribute to their more advanced "Celtic" masters.

Recent work reveals that the Gaelic of the Classical period was very closely related to Greek, and that the separation of the two language groups may have occurred quite a bit more recently than had been understood earlier.

That puts the German speaking tribes in stark relief and substantiates both the Greek and Roman contentions that they could tell the difference between the Celts and the Germans quite readily, not just by listening to their languages.

I believe there was a time (1930's?) where there were those who thought there was some advantage in having all the white, Western European tribes originating somewhere in the Baltics, and then migrating from there all over the Continent. That's how the Nazis ended up adopting Celtic folk imagery for use in their recreation of what they believed to be the Aryan "good old days". The point(s) of origin were more likely somewhere in Ukraine and Bulgaria, but lots and lots of folks migrated up from the South spreading agricultural technology. The result is that all European males carry one of three different male (Y) chromosomes rather than sharing just one.

The various names applied in Classical times to different Celtic groups, or Gaelic speaking peoples of any variety, are NOT simply names of various Germanic tribes. Rather, they are names which were usually properly applied originally, but were later misused by others in an effort to "move uptown" by adopting histories that really belonged to other, more advanced people. They've been most successful with "Teutonic". This originally applied to people living beyond the Rhine, and later on adopted by 19th and 20th Century German Romantics to apply to all Germans.

99 posted on 01/16/2005 3:03:02 PM PST by muawiyah (Egypt didn't invent civilization time)
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To: IGBT

What do scientists know. Most are Democrats


100 posted on 01/16/2005 3:04:15 PM PST by TruthWillWin
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