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"Rathergate" Scandal Takes New Turn - (Col.David Hackworth was "secret source!)
A.I.M.ORG ^ | JANUARY 13, 2005 | CLIFF KINCAID

Posted on 01/13/2005 5:05:51 PM PST by CHARLITE

Cliff Kincaid, editor of Accuracy in Media (AIM), commented that, "Rather's reference to Abu Ghraib, in the context of preparing the bogus attack on Bush, demonstrates that the agenda of Rather and CBS was not only to sabotage Bush's re-election campaign but to undermine the war in Iraq. They were looking for 'big' stories to hurt the U.S. at home and abroad. The Abu Ghraib story on CBS inflamed the Arab/Muslim world against the U.S., inevitably costing the lives of more American soldiers in Iraq at the hands of fanatical Muslim terrorists."

AIM and Romerstein drew attention to another bombshell in the report--that CBS used David Hackworth to vouch for the authenticity of the fake documents. The report says that Hackworth, who writes a regular column running under the title "Defending America," accepted the fake memos used by CBS as legitimate and taped an interview for broadcast saying so.

In what can only be seen as a major blow to his credibility as a spokesman on military affairs, the CBS report (page 96) says that Hackworth was interviewed by Rather for the Guard story "as an expert to evaluate the documents that Mapes obtained from Lieutenant Colonel Burkett."

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I've noticed that Hackworth used to be a frequent guest on several Fox cable news shows, but I haven't seen him for a long time. They must have realized that he's not all that much on the up-and-up.

In some ways, Hackworth is now becoming somewhat like Scott Ritter...........i.e. losing credibility, stature, reputation?

1 posted on 01/13/2005 5:05:53 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

I'd like to know how the heck anyone could authenticate anything from COPIES.


2 posted on 01/13/2005 5:06:42 PM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: CHARLITE

hackworth lost it long ago... he's part of the moveon.org set...
i hope this report is true, lol....


3 posted on 01/13/2005 5:10:48 PM PST by libbylu
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To: CHARLITE

Great find. Hackworthless has been going downhill in credibility for a long time. While I used to believe in him, after all of his criticism of the Commanding Generals in the Gulf Theater and the President as well as his willing role in helping CBS with Abu Graihb, I think he is as worthless as the perfumed princes he claims to try and expose.


4 posted on 01/13/2005 5:10:51 PM PST by wasp69 ("You're done, Rather! No more 'Divine Right of Kings'!" - Oliver "Buckhead" Cromwell (sorta)
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To: CHARLITE
I`m sure there is someone here that can state for sure but I think there was some issue that led FOX to show him the door.If this is true it could be an additional motivation,that is to destroy the President and get a certain amount of revenge on FOX.
5 posted on 01/13/2005 5:10:54 PM PST by carlr
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To: CHARLITE

I wouldn't doubt the defenders of CBS would use the Pope himself to defend their lying and Un-American activities. I don't know about the Hack but he's been off-the-wall of late. Maybe some of the lead he took has finally gotten to his brain.


6 posted on 01/13/2005 5:11:06 PM PST by caisson71
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To: CHARLITE
WHO gave Mapes the PICTURES of ABU GRAHIB?? Did Nick Berg take any outside pictures while he was hanging on that phone pole there? Did Hackworth give Mapes the photos???

Just the FACT that CBS asked Hackworth to authenticate PROVES Hack is a "fellow traveller" and NOT a friend of the military like he has portrayd himself to be.

7 posted on 01/13/2005 5:12:00 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CHARLITE

Hack has been a fool for a long time. He is a self-prompoting blow hard.


8 posted on 01/13/2005 5:12:40 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: CHARLITE

What these people will never understand is the only thing one has is their credibility and once that is gone; it's gone and you just don't have anything else. You will never be taken seriously.


9 posted on 01/13/2005 5:13:21 PM PST by freekitty
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To: CHARLITE

anybody but dan would be responsible. (/s)


10 posted on 01/13/2005 5:13:44 PM PST by ken21 (buenos mucus!)
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To: Ann Archy
Did Hackworth give Mapes the photos???

Yes he did. This has been known ever since the photos came out and was discussed here on FR.

11 posted on 01/13/2005 5:14:08 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: CHARLITE

I remember him on Fox shows too, and then I started thinking "this guy's a crackpot." Shortly thereafter I never saw him again on Fox.


12 posted on 01/13/2005 5:15:54 PM PST by KJC1 (overused DUmmie words: fascist, hubris, disenfranchisement)
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To: Ann Archy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1132045/posts

Here is a link.


13 posted on 01/13/2005 5:16:19 PM PST by Texasforever (It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chew your butt out all day long.)
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To: CHARLITE
I remember after the failed hostage rescue in Iran, that Hackworth came out defending Carter. At the time, I thought maybe Carter had indeed done one good thing out of all his bad.

I am beginning to suspect Hackworth was an accomplice of the left all along.

14 posted on 01/13/2005 5:17:51 PM PST by yarddog
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To: libbylu

Someone else posted this reference to Hackworth, the day that the report was released, with the additional information that Hackworth was Mapes source for the Abu Ghaib photos.


15 posted on 01/13/2005 5:18:02 PM PST by Eva
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To: CHARLITE
CORRECTED LINK SOURCE

16 posted on 01/13/2005 5:18:20 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: CHARLITE

And like Ritter, he did a huge flip flop.


17 posted on 01/13/2005 5:22:10 PM PST by Andrew LB
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To: CHARLITE
Someone, I believe on Foxnews, mentioned Hackworth the other day, but for some reason, CBS's report failed to mention him. He has some sort of axe to grind with the President.

I initially liked this guy, but the more I saw of him, the more I distrusted him. He may be one of the most decorated combat veterans, but, in my humble opinion, he's a hamburger short of a Happy Meal!

18 posted on 01/13/2005 5:22:42 PM PST by Bushbacker1
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To: CHARLITE

From WND:

Ret. Col. David Hackworth, one of the most decorated living U.S. soldiers and a WorldNetDaily columnist, helped expose the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal after learning about it from U.S. troops on the ground.

Hackworth pledges to discuss his role in the international controversy in his next column, scheduled for publication Tuesday.

"The Pentagon hoped it would go away or at least that the responsible high brass would escape untarnished," Hackworth told WND this weekend.

The story began to unravel earlier this year with the actions of Ivan Frederick, father of an Army reservist turned prison guard in Iraq, Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick, who became the target of an investigation for mistreating prisoners. Photographs of the abuse were beginning to circulate among soldiers and military investigators.

Frederick turned to his brother-in-law, William Lawson, for help. Both feared the younger Frederick would end up taking the fall for what they considered command lapses. So, Lawson sent an e-mail message in March to Hackworth, who is known for challenging the military establishment.

Within minutes, Lawson got a call back from one of Hackworth's associates. The author and commentator put Lawson in touch with the CBS News program "60 Minutes II" and help set in motion events that led to the public disclosure and apologies by President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

One irony of the way the story came to light: Lawson first tried to bring attention to the scandal by writing to 17 members of Congress, but, he told the New York Times, he got virtually no response. Now, members of the House and Senate are calling for Rumsfeld's resignation for not bringing the matter to their attention.

Before contacting Hackworth, Lawson said he also went to the Red Cross, members of Congress in both parties and Fox News Channel host Bill O'Reilly.

One major figure in the scandal, a two-star general, has already been reassigned with a new post – running Fort Huachuca in Arizona.

Maj. Gen. Barbara G. Fast, who is now the fort's deputy commander and is serving overseas in Baghdad, will take over as head of the post and its military intelligence school in late summer or early fall. In a recent Army report on the Iraq prisoner abuse scandal, disgraced Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski, the commander of several military police officers facing criminal charges, identified Fast as the person largely responsible for causing prison overcrowding in Iraq.

Fast has been serving since last summer as intelligence chief for the U.S. military command in Baghdad. In that role, she was the person responsible for approving the release of prisoners who "are of no intelligence value and no longer pose a significant threat" to American forces and allies.

Karpinski told Army investigators looking at prison abuse that Fast "routinely" refused to approve the release of such prisoners even after a military review panel in Iraq had recommended that they be released.


19 posted on 01/13/2005 5:25:46 PM PST by Eva
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To: CHARLITE
Some of us were picking the charlatan Hackworth apart a long time ago......and we took some slings and arrows for it.

I respect Hack's service, but, of his own choosing, he began going down a path where most conservatives couldn't and wouldn't follow.

I think he became heady with his initial "fame". In order to maintain his status, it looks like he had to become ever more outrageous and controversial.

A petty observation, to be sure, but his TV garb always made him look like he was about ready to smear black stuff on his face and head off for a secret commando mission some where. Hack is very much aging, but the crew cut and black turtle neck seemed to me a phony "tough guy" image he was projecting for the cameras.

Leni

20 posted on 01/13/2005 5:26:23 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: CHARLITE
I haven't trusted Hackworth sense I found out one of his favorite pastimes is bashing Oliver North. Also, I picked up his recent book (Steel My Soldiers Heart, I think)--it was an unreadable mess.
21 posted on 01/13/2005 5:28:54 PM PST by silent_jonny (Don't judge me until you've walked a mile in the cheap Chinese shoes I bought at Wal-Mart.)
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To: KJC1
I received an e-mail from Hackworth in April, 2003. In part it said:

refused to go on FOX becuz they just don’t tell the truth.

Sounds to me like Fox fired him.

22 posted on 01/13/2005 5:29:03 PM PST by jackbill
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To: DevSix

Six,

I agree. I liked Hack as first but his smarmy attitude got to me eventually. Besides that, his public criticism of the Commanding Generals and staffers during the war efforts was off-the-wall. I think Hack is a wanna-be General and those in the closest circles at those levels saw through his crap a long time ago...hence his departure from the US Army as a Colonel.


23 posted on 01/13/2005 5:29:55 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 (Peace through superior firepower and manuever!)
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To: Bushbacker1

The CBS panel does indeed mention him and he comes off like a partisan hack.


24 posted on 01/13/2005 5:31:45 PM PST by the Real fifi
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To: Joe Marine 76
I agree. I liked Hack as first but his smarmy attitude got to me eventually. Besides that, his public criticism of the Commanding Generals and staffers during the war efforts was off-the-wall. I think Hack is a wanna-be General and those in the closest circles at those levels saw through his crap a long time ago...hence his departure from the US Army as a Colonel.

You are right to an extent on all accounts. The fact is Hack has been fighting "yesterday's wars" since he left the Military.

He was crying the sky is falling before the First Gulf war (which the MSM conveniently forgets) - He was saying 20,000 body bags minimum to remove Saddam from Kuwait -

Hack has been deeped sixed by many in the Military years ago.

25 posted on 01/13/2005 5:33:33 PM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: jackbill

Is it just me or is the "timing" interesting? That email is April 2003...we entered Iraq in March 2003. Maybe that's when he started coming unglued on their shows. (pure speculation of course)


26 posted on 01/13/2005 5:34:10 PM PST by KJC1 (overused DUmmie words: fascist, hubris, disenfranchisement)
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To: the Real fifi

Agreed, but the news reports don't mention him at all.


27 posted on 01/13/2005 5:34:43 PM PST by Bushbacker1
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To: Ann Archy

It's my understanding that one of the Abu Graib guards under investigation (Grabener?) had an uncle who tried to blackmail the Pentagon to go easy on his nephew with the photos. The Pentagon told him to pound sand, so he released them, whether to Mapes directly, I don't know.


28 posted on 01/13/2005 5:35:10 PM PST by expatpat
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To: MinuteGal

I remember those arrows and barbs being thrown -- say anything against Hackworth and you were the enemy.


29 posted on 01/13/2005 5:35:59 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Increase Republicans in Congress in 2006!)
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To: CHARLITE
You could tell by the way that nerd dressed . As a retired Col.something was wrong. He had a case of the wannnaaaabbbeeeesss, real bad, at any cost.
30 posted on 01/13/2005 5:36:26 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First let's get rid of the UN and then the ACLU, or vice versa..)
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To: Ann Archy

See #19 for a more-informed post.


31 posted on 01/13/2005 5:36:51 PM PST by expatpat
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To: KJC1; Texasforever

Hackworth and Scott Ritter should start rooming together.:)


32 posted on 01/13/2005 5:37:10 PM PST by CHARLITE ((very-angry-and-not-going-to-take-it-anymore))
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To: Andrew LB
And like Ritter, he did a huge flip flop.

And Hack did his "left turn" at nearly the same time and for the same reasons as Ritter, money and power.

33 posted on 01/13/2005 5:40:08 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Don't get eliminated!" - MXC)
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To: CHARLITE

Your hyperlink doesn't work.

What is the source url?


34 posted on 01/13/2005 5:40:16 PM PST by swilhelm73 (Like the archers of Agincourt, ... the Swiftboat Veterans took down their own haughty Frenchman.)
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To: Texasforever

Wow thanks. Never heard Fast's name before.


35 posted on 01/13/2005 5:41:12 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: swilhelm73

See post 16


36 posted on 01/13/2005 5:41:50 PM PST by Bushbacker1
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To: CHARLITE
Hackworth and Scott Ritter should start rooming together.:)

Hey, it could happen. All hack has to do is play like he's a little girl on the internet and then ritter can meet him at a burger king or something.

37 posted on 01/13/2005 5:42:27 PM PST by ChuckHam
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To: MinuteGal

Never trust a guy in a turtle neck.


38 posted on 01/13/2005 5:45:22 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: Ann Archy
WHO gave Mapes the PICTURES of ABU GRAHIB??

That's an established fact. The pictures came from the father of one of the accused soldiers. He gave them to the press to get back at the higher-ups in the military whom he though were unfairly prosecuting his son for his involvement.

39 posted on 01/13/2005 5:45:49 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: libbylu

i hope this report is true

Believe it. There is a transcript of (at least some of) Hackworth's interview in the report on CBS. Hackworth made a complete fool of himself. Any shred of credibility he had left went down the tubes in that report.

40 posted on 01/13/2005 5:48:07 PM PST by elli1
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To: ChuckHam
"All hack has to do is play like he's a little girl on the internet and then ritter can meet him at a burger king or something."

BURN!

41 posted on 01/13/2005 5:48:12 PM PST by silent_jonny (Don't judge me until you've walked a mile in the cheap Chinese shoes I bought at Wal-Mart.)
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To: MinuteGal
A petty observation, to be sure, but his TV garb always made him look like he was about ready to smear black stuff on his face and head off for a secret commando mission some where. Hack is very much aging, but the crew cut and black turtle neck seemed to me a phony "tough guy" image he was projecting for the cameras.

My thoughts exactly, Leni!

Cheers, CC :)

42 posted on 01/13/2005 5:48:55 PM PST by CheneyChick
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To: swilhelm73
CORRECTED LINK SOURCE

43 posted on 01/13/2005 5:51:00 PM PST by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: CHARLITE
Hackworth, as noted, has all the credentials in the world.
Now the But!
When you begin to undermine the war and the officers in charge, you are no longer the "soldier's soldier" looking out for the "rifleman". You have become part of a nefarious enemy which harms those very troops.

Example 1: from what I've read, there was humiliation and debasement, not torture at Abu Graib. Now, we are limited in tactics and methods for getting information, which could prevent roadside bombs or civilian or political casualties.
Case 1: That is how Hackworth has supported the troops.

Example 2: Rules of Engagement. Can't shoot unless they shoot, instead of "Find the enemy, Kill the enemy!".
Case 2: That is how Hackworth has supported the troops.

He can make all the claims he wants about supporting the troops. He has jeopardized their safety! IMO!
44 posted on 01/13/2005 5:52:13 PM PST by Prost1 (I get my news at Free Republic!)
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To: CHARLITE
"In some ways, Hackworth is now becoming somewhat like Scott Ritter...........i.e. losing credibility, stature, reputation?"

Old Hackworth!

He is buddies with G.Gordon. He is a back stabbing S.O.B. He talks like a conservative and acts like a communist Liberal.

He is the S.O.B. that delivered the first photos of Abu Grab to Congress. He is a troublemaker that will do anything to get his ugly mug on TV, even if, it means lying. A whole lot like McCain.

45 posted on 01/13/2005 5:56:34 PM PST by auggy (http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-DownhomeKY /// Check out My USA Photo album & Fat Files)
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To: CHARLITE
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Don't ask, don't tell.
46 posted on 01/13/2005 5:57:07 PM PST by silent_jonny (Don't judge me until you've walked a mile in the cheap Chinese shoes I bought at Wal-Mart.)
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To: CHARLITE

Hackworth was exposed as a lying blowhard a long time ago. What would you expect for someone who got his journalistic "start" by writing for Soldier Of Fortune?


47 posted on 01/13/2005 5:58:16 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Bushbacker1

CBS's report failed to mention him.

The report from The Panel not only mentions him but also has a transcript of the interview w/ him on the 'documents'...an interview that was intended for the 60 Minutes broadcast but wasn't used. Hackworth comes off as being both stupid & an asshole, not that that's a surprise.

48 posted on 01/13/2005 5:59:36 PM PST by elli1
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To: PhiKapMom
Hack went after Admiral Boorda. Eventually it was determined that Boorda was indeed entitled to the ribbon he wore.

Hackworth on the other hand was found to have a ribbon on his website that he did NOT earn and was forced to remove that ribbon from his website.

49 posted on 01/13/2005 6:00:33 PM PST by OldFriend (PRAY FOR MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH)
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To: FreedomCalls

I don;t know why, but I have always thought that Nick Berg has something to do with this.


50 posted on 01/13/2005 6:08:24 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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