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I have been mad before, but never like this.....
January 11, 2004 | Michael Katz

Posted on 01/11/2005 12:21:17 AM PST by Mike10542

Liberals have often left me teetering on the brink of insanity after hearing them speak, but after watching the repeat of Hannity and Colmes I am beyond words (well I am really not because I am writing this now). They had this professor on from the University of Texas named Robert Jansen who said he hopes our country loses the Iraq War. Now, I don't know if simply rooting for your country to lose (or in other words rooting for the enemy and death of our brave soldiers) in a war is criminal (maybe some law freepers can help me on that one), but as a teacher, this guy left me with no doubt that he should not be aloud to be in a classroom indoctrinating young people to his sick views. In fact if he preaches what he was saying on the show in his class, I am postive what he is doing is some form of treason (no way, liberal and treason in the same sentece?!?!). I am going to email The University of Texas and everyone on here should do so too and demand that they fire him for his treachorous acts (hopefully, they will at least watch him and ensure he does not preach his evil to his students or maybe we can just get all students there to drop his class, at least the ones who don't hate America). The various contact info is:

Robert Jensen (send him the most emails) Associate Professor 512-471-1990 rjensen@uts.cc.utexas.edu

Lorraine Branham Director of School of Journalism, G.B. Dealey Regents Professor 512-471-1845 lbranham@mail.utexas.edu

Larry R. Faulkner President president@po.utexas.edu

Office of Public Affairs Phone 512-471-3151 utopa@www.utexas.edu

Office of the Vice President for Community and School Relations Phone 512.471.9882 vpcsr@www.utexas.edu

Lay it to them hard my fellow freepers!!!!!!!!1


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1 posted on 01/11/2005 12:21:18 AM PST by Mike10542
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To: Mike10542

He is one of those Austin (Berkeley at Texas) wacko libs.
He is simply more outrageous than some..Shame on Hannity for having him on.


3 posted on 01/11/2005 12:27:52 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Mike10542

You are discovering how the neoMarxist left controls our humanities departments in almost all of our universities and colleges today. They took control through subversion, purges of ideological opponents and the naive of conservatives.

This wont change untill we decide as a nation to throw the bastages out. No debate or finess, just throw them out on the street. If they hate this country they can go suck some other teet instead of the one financed by the American publics tax dollars.

You will probably like Frontpage:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/index.asp


4 posted on 01/11/2005 12:27:59 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: Petronski

That was a "treachorous" post.


5 posted on 01/11/2005 12:29:18 AM PST by JennysCool (QuarkXPress has caused an error in QuarkXPress. QuarkXPress will now close.)
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To: Mike10542

He was just another tool and a waste of oxygen. Sean Hannity let him reveal himself for what he was.


6 posted on 01/11/2005 12:31:07 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Conservatism pays off. Liberalism just wants to be paid.)
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To: Petronski
Please don't proclaim to be a teacher and say 'aloud' instead of 'allowed.'

I am also a teacher and I always use speel cheke opps... spell check. I'm series!

7 posted on 01/11/2005 12:31:11 AM PST by WesternPacific
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To: JennysCool

hey guys, so I made some spelling and grammer errors, I never claimed to be a teacher or a writer, lay off


8 posted on 01/11/2005 12:31:25 AM PST by Mike10542
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To: JennysCool

Treachory is very treachorous.


9 posted on 01/11/2005 12:31:47 AM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: MEG33

It isnt just Austin, the left has control of humanities departments all over the state.

The University of Texas at Arlington has a Jose Gutierezz who calls for killing Gringos if we get in the way of the Reconquista. Texas A&M stopped celebrating the birthday of its founder because he was a Confederate officer and veteran. Even Baylor has particpated in the persecution of Christian appologists on its own faculty and they are supposed to be a Baptist school!

The neoMarxist left uses conniving, back-stabbing, slander and extortion to gain control of University faculties and they are shameless, amoral and ruthless in pursuit of this goal.

And the American tax-payer keeps paying for this anti-American propaganda because conservative leaders are too focussed on monetary policies to give social issues like this the time of day.


10 posted on 01/11/2005 12:32:04 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: Mike10542

*grammar


11 posted on 01/11/2005 12:32:05 AM PST by Mike10542
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To: JennysCool

He said "...liberal and treason in the same sentece?!?!"


Those things should be in separate senteces.


12 posted on 01/11/2005 12:33:02 AM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: Petronski

Dirision or derision?


13 posted on 01/11/2005 12:33:30 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Mike10542
but as a teacher, this guy left me with no doubt that he should not be aloud to be in a classroom indoctrinating young people

I think we construed that to mean you were a teacher. :-)

14 posted on 01/11/2005 12:33:33 AM PST by JennysCool (QuarkXPress has caused an error in QuarkXPress. QuarkXPress will now close.)
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To: Mike10542

It was the",as a teacher," comment that was misleading.


15 posted on 01/11/2005 12:33:51 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Mike10542

haha, i see my mistake; "as a teacher" was meant to mean "jansen, as a teacher, shouldn't be allowed (spelled right this time) in the classroom


16 posted on 01/11/2005 12:33:59 AM PST by Mike10542
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To: Mike10542

My grammar always gave me trouble, too.

But I still miss her!

;-)


17 posted on 01/11/2005 12:34:09 AM PST by EternalVigilance (If the President's so dumb, and he keeps outwittin' y'all, what does that say about y'all?)
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To: Mike10542
"but as a teacher, this guy left me with no doubt that he should not be aloud to be in a classroom indoctrinating young people to his sick views."

Whether you understand it or not, you claimed to be a teacher. "Me" refers to "teacher" in the sentence above.

18 posted on 01/11/2005 12:35:05 AM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: EternalVigilance

Rimshot!


19 posted on 01/11/2005 12:35:06 AM PST by JennysCool (QuarkXPress has caused an error in QuarkXPress. QuarkXPress will now close.)
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To: ValerieUSA

Yes.




G'night.


20 posted on 01/11/2005 12:35:43 AM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: Mike10542
...but as a teacher, this guy left me with no doubt...

It looks as if you did claim to be a teacher. That's why grammar is important. If writing is your form of communication, learn to write correctly, or you will miscommunicate.

21 posted on 01/11/2005 12:35:56 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: JennysCool

heh...some things just are too good to pass up! :-)


22 posted on 01/11/2005 12:36:35 AM PST by EternalVigilance (If the President's so dumb, and he keeps outwittin' y'all, what does that say about y'all?)
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To: ValerieUSA

Or, even worse, discommunicate!


23 posted on 01/11/2005 12:37:02 AM PST by JennysCool (QuarkXPress has caused an error in QuarkXPress. QuarkXPress will now close.)
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To: EternalVigilance

why does grammar always become the topic of the posts i write???


24 posted on 01/11/2005 12:38:00 AM PST by Mike10542
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To: JennysCool
Or, even worse, discommunicate!

That can be real bad strategery...

25 posted on 01/11/2005 12:38:31 AM PST by EternalVigilance (If the President's so dumb, and he keeps outwittin' y'all, what does that say about y'all?)
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To: MEG33

"He is simply more outrageous than some..Shame on Hannity for having him on."

So you think he should remain unexposed? You think Hannity's exposing this idiot was wrong huh?


26 posted on 01/11/2005 12:39:34 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Mike10542

i know the liberal elites control the academic structure in our country, but come on, this is a little out there; I mean my professor said Iraq would never become a democracy, but that is a little different than saying "I hope we lose the war"


27 posted on 01/11/2005 12:39:43 AM PST by Mike10542
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To: Mike10542

I hesitate to answer that one, friend!

But be assured, I share your disgust for the Left. :-)

That was what this thread was about, right?? lol...


28 posted on 01/11/2005 12:39:49 AM PST by EternalVigilance (If the President's so dumb, and he keeps outwittin' y'all, what does that say about y'all?)
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To: Mike10542; Petronski; JennysCool; All

All your spelling and grammar are belong to us!

(And if you're not careful we'll get your diction and grampar too!)


29 posted on 01/11/2005 12:40:22 AM PST by shibumi (Sum Ergo Flatulo)
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To: shibumi

People have no idea how hugh grammar is. Cheese!


30 posted on 01/11/2005 12:41:58 AM PST by JennysCool (QuarkXPress has caused an error in QuarkXPress. QuarkXPress will now close.)
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To: Mike10542

If I had gone to school there, I would have signed up for his class, came in the first day, raised my hand right away, and tell him that I mistakenly signed up for his "how to root for soldiers to die" class and then walk out and drop the class


31 posted on 01/11/2005 12:42:24 AM PST by Mike10542
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To: Mike10542

Ha ha! Dandy idea!


32 posted on 01/11/2005 12:43:07 AM PST by JennysCool (QuarkXPress has caused an error in QuarkXPress. QuarkXPress will now close.)
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To: Mike10542
I heard this putz tonight. He is a typical liberal. I once thought that there could be an honest difference of opinion on issues. But now those defined as liberal have gone way beyond that. They are mentally ill and no amount of reason can reach them.
33 posted on 01/11/2005 12:43:29 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: shibumi

Grampars are pretty tough to change...


34 posted on 01/11/2005 12:43:58 AM PST by EternalVigilance (If the President's so dumb, and he keeps outwittin' y'all, what does that say about y'all?)
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To: Smartaleck

He's no stranger to me..I have seen him on TV and he writes a column occaionally...Believe me he does not feel "exposed"...He loves the face time.
The left loves him.


35 posted on 01/11/2005 12:44:24 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Mike10542

There use to be laws on the books regarding treason and sedition, but they have been watered down until they are non-effective. Heck, half the members of Congress, fifty plus which are openly members of the communist party, the senate and the Supreme Court would be in the pen.


36 posted on 01/11/2005 12:44:33 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Mike10542

Take heart, when we get mad and the fingers start flying they go too fast for the grammar and spelling sections of the brain to keep up with. The anger chases out the editing portion.

But, it would be nice to rattle off a rant and have it come out exquisite wouldn't it? I have trouble with the unspelling ungrammatical fingers too.


37 posted on 01/11/2005 12:44:51 AM PST by ClancyJ (Middle America is what makes America - not the Liberal "elitists" and the Media)
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To: Mike10542
If we want to keep people who don't have the right attitudes out of colleges, then kiss any hope of conservatives getting a handhold there goodbye.

I'll have nothing to do with censoring free speech and free thought on campuses. We have to fight for MORE not less free expression there. That way our side gets a better representation and we can crush their Marxist silliness with reality, capitalism, representative democracy and understanding of the founders's intentions in creating this country.

A dippy liberal college professor making a stupid statement--wow, never heard of THAT happening before! But my response isn't to become the censoring fascist they'd love to accuse me of being. Exposing jerks like this so they reveal their true motives is the way.

38 posted on 01/11/2005 12:44:59 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (...drowning someone ...I certainly wouldn't have had a part of that... --Capt. Teddy)
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To: Darkwolf377

They censor the conservative students on campus in many Universities, the token conservative professors are shunned and denied tenure..

Free speech is for libs only it seems.


39 posted on 01/11/2005 12:49:21 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: WesternPacific
Please don't proclaim to be a teacher and say 'aloud' instead of 'allowed.'

I am also a teacher and I always use speel cheke opps... spell check. I'm series!

His/her spelling was correct.

40 posted on 01/11/2005 12:51:00 AM PST by lewislynn (The meaning of life can be described in one word...Grandchildren)
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To: JFK_Lib

>You are discovering how the neoMarxist left controls our humanities departments

The expression of outrage at bias doesn't reveal naivete. Our party's problem is we have too many old saws who have lost their sense of indignation and willingness to do anything about the bias.


41 posted on 01/11/2005 12:52:55 AM PST by jagrmeister
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To: MEG33

Understood. But that's not gonna change by trying to stifle the libs, only by pushing for more freedom for everyone else.


42 posted on 01/11/2005 12:53:55 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (...drowning someone ...I certainly wouldn't have had a part of that... --Capt. Teddy)
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To: Mike10542
I saw the jerk too. He really made me mad. He was more obnoxious than most liberals. I think he even made Alan mad. Thanks for getting the contact information. They're sure going to hear from me. We definitely don't need teachers like him spewing his anti-American garbage to our young people.

By now, I'm sure people have already brought the spelling mistakes to your attention. LOL I ALWAYS use spell check. It never fails, the one time I don't use it I see the mistake just as I hit "post." :)

43 posted on 01/11/2005 12:54:24 AM PST by NRA2BFree (NO AMNESTY!!!!!)
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To: Mike10542
Its always better to be pissed off than pissed on.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

44 posted on 01/11/2005 12:55:19 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Mike10542
The professor's name is Jensen. A search of Free Republic would have saved you posting this vanity as there was already one started earlier on this exact subject.

Liberal idiot Robert Jensen on FNC wants us to lose the war on Hannity and Colmes.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1318141/posts

Here's a link to Jensen's ramblings which gives others some background on the loony;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1293881/posts
Jensen: The upside to losing Iraq? An empire falls (Embarrassing, even for Austin...)

I swear we know this Jensen guy from somewhere in the past year or two ago when he oozed some similar drivel.

45 posted on 01/11/2005 12:56:21 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Don't get eliminated!" - MXC)
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To: Mike10542

Freepers who live in the area should pay a personal visit to the Dean of that school and let him know what you think of this professor. Assure him also that your kids and relatives will not be attending the school either.


46 posted on 01/11/2005 12:57:07 AM PST by Capitalism2003
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To: Darkwolf377

RE: Tagline.

MJ: Teddy, I think I'm pregnant.

TK: Don't worry, MariJo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.


47 posted on 01/11/2005 12:57:32 AM PST by shibumi (Sum Ergo Flatulo)
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To: Mike10542

Jensen has been doing this for years and it hasn't got him fired yet. The school president and the Board of Regents disavow the guy like crazy but he's tenured so they can't just get rid of him.

He's such an embarassment to the University of Texas already and he gets plenty of hate mail whenever he opens his communist yap.

The only thing that has even remotely influenced the University to discipline him is the threat of withholding alumni contributions. Nothing else is going to get them to raise an eyebrow.

Tall_Texan
University of Texas at Austin class of 1979
Bachelor of Journalism


48 posted on 01/11/2005 12:57:37 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Let's REALLY Split The Country! (http://righteverytime3.blogspot.com))
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To: shibumi

D'oh!


49 posted on 01/11/2005 12:59:46 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (...drowning someone ...I certainly wouldn't have had a part of that... --Capt. Teddy)
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To: jagrmeister; Darkwolf377

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16301
It's Time for Fairness and Inclusion in Our Universities
By David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 14, 2004

"Two studies have appeared that reveal a serious corruption of the academic enterprise in America and a troubling situation on our campuses. The first, by Professor Daniel Klein of Santa Clara University, establishes a relentless bias in the hiring of faculty. According to Professor Klein’s results from a sample of nearly more than 1700 social science academics, between eighty and ninety percent (depending on the selection of fields) identify themselves as “liberals” and vote Democratic. In the next generation, the imbalance will be even more extreme. In a survey of junior faculty at Stanford and Berkeley, Professor Klein showed that the ratio of “liberals” to conservatives on college campuses is 30-1.

I put quotation marks around the term “liberals” because the practices of these professors show them to be anything but tolerant and inclusive, as the word “liberal” would imply. The exclusion of conservatives in the hiring process is itself an illiberal achievement. However, it is in the classroom that intolerance makes its most indelible mark.

According to a report issued by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni (ACTA), 46% of students said their professors “use the classroom to present their personal political views,” regardless of subject. In other words a large number of professors are abusing their positions as educators to turn their classrooms into political platforms and indoctrinate their students on matters in which they have no academic expertise. A slightly greater number of students (48%), report that presentations of political issues on campus are “totally one-sided.”



According to the testimony of the students themselves, this includes cutting off students who present conservative viewpoints in class but allowing students with socialist and communist comments to ramble on with approval. It includes mid-term exams featuring topics like “Explain why George Bush is a war criminal,” as happened at a university in Colorado. (A student who wrote why Saddam Hussein was a war criminal got an “F” on this exam.) It includes professors who are abusive to their conservative students in class like the professor of law at the University of Colorado who told his class that the “R” in Republicans stands for “racist,” while dismissing a student who objected saying, “We have too many Nazis like you on campus.”



To remedy this situation and restore good manners to the university, I have drawn up an Academic Bill of Rights, which is presently being considered for legislation in twenty states. Critics have responded by claiming that there is no problem at all. They explain the faculty imbalance by saying that conservatives simply don’t pursue academic careers in the same proportion as leftists do. Well, why would they if their professors -- politically correct and sensitive in regard to everyone else’s feelings -- think nothing of calling them racists and Nazis in class? Even if, in the best of circumstances, more liberals would indeed choose an academic career, would the ratio be 30-1?



The bottom line is this: You can’t get a good education, if they’re only telling you half the story, even if you are a liberal. The effect of the present one-party state on college campuses is to diminish the educational experience for everyone, liberals and conservatives alike. It is damaging to our national fabric as well. If every institution is political in a divisive age like ours, then every institution will become that much poorer as a result.



And to what end? Would it really be so hard to introduce the principles of intellectual diversity, fairness and inclusion into our institutions of higher learning? I, for one, would not like to think so.



David Horowitz is the author of numerous books including an autobiography, Radical Son, which has been described as “the first great autobiography of his generation,” and which chronicles his odyssey from radical activism to the current positions he holds.(snip)

Horowitz’s latest book, Uncivil Wars, was published in January this year, and chronicles his crusade against intolerance and racial McCarthyism on college campuses last spring."

Someone is trying...


50 posted on 01/11/2005 12:59:52 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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