Posted on 01/07/2005 5:44:48 PM PST by traderrob6
Steven Gardner the 2 tour Viet Nam vet who served on sKerry's boat was interviewed by Bill O. Gardner was fired from Millenium his employer allegedly for criticizing Skerry and contradicting sKerry's accounts of his service in Viet Nam.
That was a nice gesture of Mr O in helping Steve get a job.
I agree. I only wish he would have been that fair with the SVFT during the campaign
Whoa.... Deja vu, man. Was this a replay?
I seem to recall O'Reilly talking about the Swift Boat Vets' baloney.
Considering how he dissed Unfit For Command and the Swifties during the campaign this is but one very small step in a journey of public acknowlegement that O'reilly needs to make.
I think he was on Hannity a while back telling this story. Hope he gets a great job. What the heck in Millenium, his old job?
Millenium Information Services. Records management etc
I will get any info on OH Really here on FR because I will never watch it again.
He and Dan Blather make a good team.
Take all the TV journalist and applying that standard.... leaves you with only Hume, Krauthammer, and maybe Barnes
For the record, O'Reilly is not a journalist.
He is a commentator.
Bingo.
I like Lou Dobbs!
So in reality, are there any "journalists" left?
In total agreement. Done with him.
DOBBS??? You mean the every show for 6 months prior to the election bemoaning the selling out of America thru outsourcing Dobbs??
Since when did O'Reilly start treating these guys with any respect?
He thinks he is the only objective force out there. Couldn't find an objective point in a paper bag if it didn't have ratings attached or an opportunity to hawk his show or sell a doormat.
He has been downsized here in tidewater to a hour before Savage on delay. The doormat of filling time.
Hannity too. He's great!
Dobbs was a slight of hand Bush Basher.
Hume etc.
A journalist can be a commentator, but a commentator cannot be a journalist.
In other words, a journalist does actual reporting, but can also do opinion pieces. But, if you are just a commentator like O'Reilly, you are not a journalist.
Not too much slight of hand, seemed to me he was pretty darned blatant about it
"I don't think anyone could forgive him after he had that love session with Rather."
I had hope for Oh Really when he asked Dan Blather about Juanita Broderick.
Dan Blather said "That was a personal sex life".
Oh Really didn't say anything else about Juanita.
I take it that both Dan and Bill think rape should only be a mans personal sex life.
Last time I watched this POS.
How about his newspaper column, certainly he could be considered as much of a journalist as say Dowd or Krugman
All your facts about O'Reilly are true and I wanted to add that he was also hot to trot on getting Kerry on his show before the election. Well, it didn't happen and I think O'Reilly knows he sucked up to no avail and it only made him look ridiculous.
Lou Dobbs is an idiot!
You know, you bring up a good point. Seems O'Really has a problem with stereotyping women.
I still watch him, but I will admit a couple more times of kiss butt begging sKerry to come on and I would have quit
O'Reilly was a total sh*theel to the Swifties during the election. He's dead to me.
On the other hand, Gardner deserves any good he can gain from the aftermath of this circus, and we are forever indebted to him and his peers.
Did I mention that Bill O sucks?
I think to a degree he was just a coward. He was catching a tremendous amount of crap from the left and he didn't have the guts to tough it out so he moved toward the middle to appease and be able to say "See look at me I am not a righty like you say i am"
I caught him today lamenting the fact that the media has turned on him and that he "being the all knowing and fair minded Bill" gave them a chance and now he is going to shut them out. Made me want to puke. Says he admires Stern and Rush for never talking to the press and now he knows why --- when in the past he made fun of them for not talking to the press. Paranoid.
He plays the martyr like a fool. Not falling for it.
I'm not sure that term even has relevance today.
I can't think of one decent "journalist".
He said he admired Rush? Not too long ago he was taking hits at him. LOL
Kinda lonely at the top when you alienate your base. The MSM was never going to be his friend, and conservatives don't like being spat on to kiss up to the liberal elite.
Brother Bill is a media whore....now is trying to figure out how to get his knees together again.....
yep. "now I know why Rush was so wise" (in so many words)
I feel so bad for him... boohoo.
Priceless.
Is Bill aware the symbol of Republicans is an elephant? Long memories.
If he's repentant, he'll be willing to spend the next 10 years paying his dues. If he's still the opportunist I believe him to be, he'll fail in this makeover tour.
I chalked it up partly to his insincere PC obsession with looking "fair and balanced," so as to not offend liberals and the Kerry camp should they get into office. That part was a shameless and unprofessional CYA abomination--he knew BETTER.
There was just SO much water-tight information available on the Swifties' side, that unless you were mentally-lacking, Clueless Chrissy Matthews, MOST respectable and honorable journalists HAD to have had Rice Butt fingered for the lying, conniving, self-inflating, Machiavellian Moron that he had been exposed to be, and who expended any and all GOOD AND HONORABLE MEN, without blinking, FOR HIS OWN SICK ENDS.
THAT part made me the most disgusted with O'Reilly, and made clear any disillusionment I had of the intellectually dishonest panderer. I was then confident in exactly who/WHAT Bill was.
Heres the thing, one candidate appears on OReilly other one chickens out, chicken loses. 4 years later one candidate appears on OReilly other one chickens out chicken loses.....coincidence?
Most Liberals avoid FOX due to natural prejudice. Fox in '00 is not comparable to the success of FOX in '04. It was only this year that FOX became a viable competitor on level with ABC, CBS and NBC. It is not unusual Gore (a Liberal) would have avoided O'Reilly in '00.
In '04, Kerry took aversion of the press (MSM outlets included) to an extreme. His attempts to silence the Swiftees were only a small indicator of what he would have attempted in the W.H. While FOX was far more influential this election year, Kerry's aversion of a free press (liberal or conservative) dissuaded him from making an appearance on FOX once he won the primaries.
If your suggestion is that Bush won because neither Gore or Kerry appeared on O'Reilly's program, I think you elevate O'Reilly beyond his influence. Coincidences can be deciphered from any number of instances. It is no different than falling victim to the thought if the Redskins lost, Bush would lose. A myth broken this election cycle.
Until someone wishes to conduct a credible study that can cite O'Reilly as the turning point, I chalk this up to arrogance on Bill's part.
He will fail. With me at least.
I watch Bill if he has a particular guest on that I want to hear. Otherwise, you have "nailed him with precision." I do not have a problem with Orielly or any host when they go after a liberal or conservative so long as it is done with logic and analysis. When I saw the way Orielly dismissed the Swift Boat Vets out of hand and did not dispute their story but simply indicated that it was not true, during the election was the moment that I realized it is not about, "Who is looking out for you" but it is all about Bill Orielly.
If Orielly lurks here I would like to remind him it is best to go home from the dance with the one that brought you to the dance!
Yep-and he's still doing it----I just like him.
Actally I was pretty much saying that tongue in cheek
I was very surprised to see O'Reilly have him on when he infuriated me and many others by dismissing the SVFT's claims without a second thought. So what has made him change his mind? He hasn't said he's changed it, but why is Gardner any more important to him than all the others that he dismissed without regard? I'm very curious.
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