Posted on 01/04/2005 6:14:44 AM PST by Wil H
Christmas is over - well nearly, it ends tomorrow on Jan 5th (Twelth Night) and this Christmas season we have seen an unprecedented attempt to stamp it out by the secularists and the left wing loonies.
People have been cowered into not saying "Merry Christsmas" for fear of offending minorities who don't celebrate Christmas, so the question I ask is - why is no one offended by "Happy New Year"?
A fifth of the world's population are Chinese -it's not their New Year!
There are more Jews in in New York than in Israel -it's not their New Year either!
If "Merry Christmas" offends, surely "Happy New Year" is equally offensive...
Exactly. What if I'm a pacifist and someone wishes me a good veteran's day weekend? The most insidious thing about the left is not the moral error (which is monumental) but the sheer stupidity to which it has brought us.
Well I guess it's because it doesn't bring a certain religion to mind, therefore it is a secondary target. Once Christian and Jewish references are banned from the public square, the left can attack secondary targets. The American flag ban will be intensified. Birmingham, Alabama will need to be renamed (racial past). All southern states will need new names (racial past). Detroit and LA and Boston need new names. The list is endless.
I'm offended because some people may not be happy this New Year.
Besides, I don't like the word "happy". Perhaps we should change it to "gay".
Because it ain't overtly Christian, of course!
New Year's Day is not overtly, perhaps. However, the fact that we all agree that New Year's Day (and other days as well) falls at the same time and on the same calendar can be attributed to Pope Gregory, from way back in the late sixteenth century! The calendar that most of us use is the Gregorian one, isn't it?
Not really. The calendar we presently use is only slightly changed from that of the pagan Romans.
And Jews circumcize baby boys on the eighth day after birth, not the seventh.
Well, I'm offended by all the Christians complaining about not hearing Merry Christmas throughout the season of Advent while they themselves fail to express Merry Christmas during the actual Christmas season. It's been over a week since I heard anyone wish someone else a Merry Christmas.
Shhh, they haven't figured it out yet.
Granted, they've tried. I see pinheaded secular scholars are all using that "CE" and "BCE" crap to refer to years now, instead of "A.D." and "B.C." But the fact remains: the way most of humanity measures time is centered around God's act of entering human history in the person of His Son, our Lord Jesus the Messiah.
I'm frankly surprised the idiot ACLU malcontents haven't tried to sue to abolish the calendar yet.
give it time.
I'm with you on that one, I am still wishing people a Merry Christmas and they look at me like I'm a loonie.
Though I did get a wished a merry christmas by someone yesterday, I was quite surprised.
The Jewish day overlaps the Roman day, as it is presently used, with about six hours of day one and 18 hours of day two. We, of course, do not know when in the day Jesus was born.
This discussion leaves out of consideration two facts:
1. All reasonable scholars are agreed that we do not know the date of Jesus' birth. Most agree that, whenever it was, it is unlikely that it was December 25.
2. The date of the start of the New Year, in the Roman calendar, predates Jesus' birth, and therefore was not set to commemorate any event in his life. You are, of course, free to see any significance you like in what I see as just an interesting coincidence.
As a Traditional Catholic allow me to wish everyone a belated Happy Feast of the Circumcision!!
Thanks for the tip...:-)
It is hardly unprecedented since this attack on anything Christian has been going on for years.
Was there not an existing thread that you might have posted your comment on rather than creating a new thread for a pointless vanity?
I wasn't aware Jewish references have come under attack. From the ACLU?
The level of attack this year was unprecedented......and in response to you rhetorical question, if the thread was pointless why are you responding to it?
I hate New Years day. It's my birthday and I just keep getting older. :o(
Happy Belated Birthday! I hope you enjoyed it at least a little bit and hope your team won!
There have been a lot of vanity threads lately, and from what I've seen precious few of them "meet a high standard of quality" that would make them "worthy of posting" as their own threads.
But it means 2005 A.D....Anno Domini, the Year of the Lord...shush...don't tell the ACLU!!
Let us all know when your birthday is - and we will inundate you with greetings!
Better yet, Happy Birthday in advance!
By the way strangely enough, my birthday is December 25th.
-PJ
Happy Birthday!
Do you get double presents???
I have long since reached the age where I try to "forget" that I am another year older.
You mean the whole thing depended on the slip of a knife?
Go away, newbie...
Actually, the PC historians now have another acronym to replace AD (I forget what it is, tho').
He doesn't have to go away, he's entitled to his opinion, however he should not try teaching his grandfather to suck eggs.
When Jim appoints him I/C quality police , we'll pay attention to him.
hehe
It was a joke, he and I have similar start dates.
Actually, the PC historians now have another acronym to replace AD (I forget what it is, tho').
___Yeah, CE...the "Common Era."
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i think it's only offensive if money can be made off it
was not January 1. December was the tenth month, January the eleventh, and February the 12th.
Unless you practice some form of Eastern Orthodox Christianity in which case the New Year is celebrated 7 days *before* the birth of Christ.
Sounds like some people need to grow a little spine.
We haven't been told what the proper Muslim term is for the New Year. Just wait, that's on the Lib. agenda somewhere.
Ohfercryinoutloud. I couldn't be more tired of this whole "oppression through inadequate greeting" issue.
Happy Holidays everyone! All of them from now till Labor Day!
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