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Medicare Will Help Beneficiaries Quit Smoking (Good Laugh)
yahoonews.com ^ | 12-25-04

Posted on 12/25/2004 10:37:36 AM PST by SheLion

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To: EGPWS
Hey! I want a Tweetie!

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61 posted on 12/26/2004 4:42:44 AM PST by SheLion (Merry Christmas to all my friends at Free Republic!)
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To: Judith Anne
There are people who died from heart disease or strokes attributed to their smoking, when it likely was the Vioxx that killed them. Whenever a smoker gets ANYTHING, it is claimed that there is a connection to the disease, whether such a connection exists in actuality or not. The amount of money given in grants to researchers, paid to come up with a foregone conclusion is staggering. The anti-smoking agenda has given literally MILLIONS to lawyers and the government, and to ad agencies.

Judith Anne, we all know that it takes a number of things that kill a person.  Not just smoking.  Was the person obese?  Were they a couch potato that never exercised?  How was their diet? 

But just because a person smoked, the authorities blame the death on smoking without taking everything else into account.

The war on the smoker has gotten way out of hand, and it's people like jorge that contribute to it.

Maine has opened up THREE Meth clinics! I wonder what jorge would say about THAT! But OMG, they better not SMOKE. heh!

62 posted on 12/26/2004 4:49:56 AM PST by SheLion (Merry Christmas to all my friends at Free Republic!)
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To: Judith Anne
Jorge, those comparative photos are BS, they are actually from a man who died of black lung (hence the appearance). They were used over and over again, until people began to believe that smoking does that kind of damage.

You actually believe this story?

You think Doctors and medical professionals are such fools or charlatans that such a fraud can be put over for so many years?

Think again. There are NUMEROUS photos of smokers lungs compared to healthy lungs. Not just one set.

I personally know people who had Doctors in their families, who brought them to the hospital to show them the diseased and blacken lungs removed from deceased smokers.
Most people who see them WILL QUIT SMOKING.

Of course there are many people who remain in denial as you are who will continue to smoke no matter what happens to them.
Some of them are in cancer wards but still smoke through the holes in their throat.
A great way to go, huh?

63 posted on 12/26/2004 7:29:48 AM PST by Jorge
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To: SheLion
Maine has opened up THREE Meth clinics! I wonder what jorge would say about THAT! But OMG, they better not SMOKE. heh!

Funny you should mention that.......I just finished reading an article about drug and alcohol addiction counseling programs mandating smoking cessation counselling as well.

NJ restores smoking cessation program for addiction centers

64 posted on 12/26/2004 7:36:10 AM PST by Gabz (Merry Christmas)
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To: Jorge; Just another Joe; Great Dane; Madame Dufarge; Gabz; MeeknMing; steve50; KS Flyover; ...
Reggie White, age 43, NFL football star, perfect health, never smoked, died of a massive heart attack.

Just how do you explain THAT, jorge???? Huh???!!!!

65 posted on 12/26/2004 8:50:36 AM PST by SheLion (Merry Christmas to all my friends at Free Republic!)
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To: Gabz
Funny you should mention that.......I just finished reading an article about drug and alcohol addiction counseling programs mandating smoking cessation counselling as well.

That's why I roll my own. So my tax dollars don't line the pockets of these idiots!

66 posted on 12/26/2004 8:54:47 AM PST by SheLion (Merry Christmas to all my friends at Free Republic!)
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To: SheLion
Rest in peace, Reggie White.


67 posted on 12/26/2004 9:03:10 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: SheLion
He was only 43? Wow. I thought he was in his late 40's or early 50's.

Poor guy.


68 posted on 12/26/2004 9:03:47 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: Jorge

So, do 100% of smokers get lung cancer? If not, why not? And what is the ACTUAL percentage? What risk factors for lung cancer occurred concommitantly?

Does a non-smoker ever get lung cancer? If so, why? What is mesothelioma? What is radon, where is it found, and what are the effects of natural radon on people who live in houses where it occurs naturally?


69 posted on 12/26/2004 9:30:49 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Jorge

Is smoking damage to the lungs dose related? What are the variations in cigar, pipe, and cigarette smoking? What does heredity have to do with emphysema? Why do some non-smokers get it?


70 posted on 12/26/2004 9:32:38 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Jorge

Name a person who died from second-hand smoke.


71 posted on 12/26/2004 9:33:18 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Meek! Beautiful tribute you made for him.

Yes, he was only 43. He was born in 61.

72 posted on 12/26/2004 10:22:28 AM PST by SheLion (Merry Christmas to all my friends at Free Republic!)
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To: Judith Anne
Does a non-smoker ever get lung cancer? If so, why? What is mesothelioma? What is radon, where is it found, and what are the effects of natural radon on people who live in houses where it occurs naturally?

People with the mindset of jorge make me sick.  They are SO SURE that smoking kills.  And that is just not true.

You mentioned black lung.  There are thousands living today with black lung, and not ALL of them are smokers.  But to the likes of jorge, there is no such thing as black lung.  If a person has black lung, he got it from smoking.  That's exactly how his kind thinks.

Judith Ann, when it's my time to go, it won't matter one iota if I ever smoked or not.  I wish these people would get that through their heads!

73 posted on 12/26/2004 10:25:58 AM PST by SheLion (Merry Christmas to all my friends at Free Republic!)
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To: Judith Anne

After the untimely death of Reggie, I doubt if we will hear from the likes of jorge anymore. heh!


74 posted on 12/26/2004 10:30:33 AM PST by SheLion (Merry Christmas to all my friends at Free Republic!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Did I say 41? He was 43. But still so very young.


75 posted on 12/26/2004 10:33:18 AM PST by SheLion (Merry Christmas to all my friends at Free Republic!)
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To: SheLion

Sad----an early death is tough.

His death could be considered proof of the dangers of NOT smoking if the same warped statistics were used as the ones used for the dangers of smoking.

The entire smoking-hysteria thing makes me weary.


76 posted on 12/26/2004 11:08:50 AM PST by Mears
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To: Mears
The entire smoking-hysteria thing makes me weary.

Mears, I realize that smoking isn't good for us. But like I said: when our number is up, it won't matter one bit if we smoked or not.

And when people like jorge spew about all smokers getting lung disease, heart attacks, etc, it really puts my fur up.

In all my years, I have never known anyone with such diseases.

And I have known a LOT of smokers!

I guess we have to 'consider the source.'

Now! If a person like this guy smoked, I can undertand him dying of a smoking related disease. heh! But, you have to consider how fat he is, as well. (God, I hope he DOESN'T smoke, as FAT as he is. Holy Cow!)


77 posted on 12/26/2004 11:39:19 AM PST by SheLion (Merry Christmas to all my friends at Free Republic!)
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To: SheLion
But just because a person smoked, the authorities blame the death on smoking without taking everything else into account.

It's called the easy way out and moving on.

As far as Emphysema goes, my former boss never smoked a day in his life and after meeting the ground with his T-33 at an air show, the 128 flags posted in the ground showing body parts were pulled and a medical investigation pursued. He had "advanced" emphysema was the determination. Go figure....

No doubt, some will assume 2nd hand smoke to be the blame. Laughable to say the least.

78 posted on 12/26/2004 12:15:46 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: Mears
The entire smoking-hysteria thing makes me weary.

Alas, hysteria is fashionable these days...

79 posted on 12/26/2004 12:18:23 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: ijcr

Prophetic comments you made yesterday...


80 posted on 12/26/2004 12:21:43 PM PST by Connie Cardullo
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