To: John Jorsett
BUMP!
To read later
2 posted on
12/24/2004 2:30:17 PM PST by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
To: John Jorsett
3 posted on
12/24/2004 2:31:53 PM PST by
konaice
To: John Jorsett
Very interesting and good to know if your facing a standing Arab army. But it seems that asymmetrical warfare is the order of the day.Too bad they don't fight their jihad with armored divisions. Now I'd like ti see the author do a paper on why the United States is so inept in the public relations front and is seemingly unable able to counter the likes of Al-Jezeera and other Arab and European propaganda mills
5 posted on
12/24/2004 2:38:32 PM PST by
SolutionsOnly
(but some people really NEED to be offended...)
To: John Jorsett
Tex as he is affectionately know to friends:) Great writer, great mind. You can read more of his writing at American Diplomacy's website. Tex sure teaches a great regional studies course!
7 posted on
12/24/2004 2:43:13 PM PST by
Jumper
To: SandRat
Something to consider for your ping list. Merry Christmas
8 posted on
12/24/2004 2:45:27 PM PST by
FierceKulak
(Only the dead have seen the end of war)
To: John Jorsett
Unfortunately, even an idiot can kill you!
10 posted on
12/24/2004 2:50:09 PM PST by
RAY
(They that do right are all heroes!)
To: John Jorsett
Bump
To read later
11 posted on
12/24/2004 2:51:44 PM PST by
Fiddlstix
(This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
To: John Jorsett
If the fanatical Arab goal is not to defeat other nations militarily, but to send the world back to the dark ages, then a black-market purchased nuke detonated in NYC or Wash DC will do just fine.
To: John Jorsett
I'd love to see a follow up to this article that took into account events in Afghanistan and Iraq, including the election processes and fighting.
14 posted on
12/24/2004 2:54:12 PM PST by
LenS
To: John Jorsett
15 posted on
12/24/2004 2:55:05 PM PST by
boycott
To: Ragtime Cowgirl; Radix; HiJinx; Spiff; JackelopeBreeder; Da Jerdge; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; ...
16 posted on
12/24/2004 3:00:22 PM PST by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: John Jorsett
17 posted on
12/24/2004 3:00:41 PM PST by
GSlob
To: John Jorsett
Heh, Seems like a waste for Egypt to buy High tech items.
To: John Jorsett
20 posted on
12/24/2004 3:04:38 PM PST by
brooklin
(still thinking)
To: John Jorsett
A weapons system brings with it specific maintenance and logistics procedures, policies, and even a philosophy(ed.), all of them based on U.S. culture,Great read, great post. Once again, Sect. Rumsfeld's focus on a joint doctine proves that he is a great leader of warriors.
We Americans have a wonderful legacy of DOCTRINE that guides us. From Sun Tzu to Gen. von Steuben to Gen. Washington to Gen. LeMay, to Gen. Jumper, doctrine guides warfare. And we win.
/john
21 posted on
12/24/2004 3:06:39 PM PST by
JRandomFreeper
(D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
To: John Jorsett
During the first Gulf War I led a team of 10 USAF air traffic controllers that deployed to an air base in Oman. We were sent to augment the Omani AF controllers. Before we arrived it was a sleepy little base with little traffic, basically one aircraft in, one aircraft out. When we arrived there were 2 squadrons of US fighters, 2 squadrons of RAF fighters and 2 squadrons of C-130's. The Omanis, while they tried to run the traffic as best they could, were completly lost. They did not have the training or procedures to work that much traffic. Everytime I made a suggestion to the Omani Major that ran their air traffic he came up with some reason to shoot it down. It was very frustrating, traffic wasn't moving the way it should, and we had definite flight safety problems. Suprisingly, I found my solution while talking to our Chaplain. He had some experience with dealing with the Arabs and he told me that basically they were like children. When I made my suggestions on how to restructure their airspace what I was telling the Omani Major was not that it needed improvement, but rather that there was something wrong with what he had been doing. That was not just an insult to him but also to his father, his grandfather, etc., and would only make him lose face. Additionally, as an officer, he would lose face in implementing a suggestion given to him by a seniro NCO, a mere enlisted man. My solution to the problem was this; I would speak to him about some changes I thought might be needed to change the airspace structure or a departure procedure. He would pretend to listen politely and thank me for the info. I would come back a couple of days later and tell him that I had spoken with my commander about HIS suggestions and tell him my commander thought that they were good ideas. By making him think that there were his ideas to begin with, and endorsed by a USAF officer, he would then go about implementing what I had wanted all along. Worked everytime!
24 posted on
12/24/2004 3:31:11 PM PST by
ops33
(Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
To: John Jorsett
Having learned to perform some complicated procedure, an Arab technician knows that he is invaluable so long as he is the only one in a unit to have that knowledgeOy. An army of housewives.
27 posted on
12/24/2004 3:39:50 PM PST by
wizardoz
To: John Jorsett
Finish reading later, thanks for the posting!
29 posted on
12/24/2004 3:42:32 PM PST by
Ernest_at_the_Beach
(A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
To: John Jorsett
34 posted on
12/24/2004 3:49:57 PM PST by
Dick Vomer
(liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
To: John Jorsett
Time for a Patton quote:
It seems to me a certainty that the fatalistic teachings of Mohammed and the utter degradation of the Arab women are the outstanding causes for the arrested development of the Arab. He is exactly as he was around the year 700, while we have been developing.
35 posted on
12/24/2004 3:53:09 PM PST by
bigcheese
("They pray alot, but they still prey...")
To: John Jorsett
Thanks for the good post. Makes it easier to understand why there are no pages between the covers of the book, "Arab War Hero's".
36 posted on
12/24/2004 4:05:38 PM PST by
Buffalo Head
(Illigitimi non carborundum)
To: John Jorsett
Bump, Merry Christmas and thanks
38 posted on
12/24/2004 4:10:53 PM PST by
Yasotay
To: John Jorsett
40 posted on
12/24/2004 4:12:47 PM PST by
TASMANIANRED
(Free the Fallujah one)
To: John Jorsett
44 posted on
12/24/2004 4:26:43 PM PST by
gaijin
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45 posted on
12/24/2004 4:30:22 PM PST by
Tatze
(I voted for John Kerry before I voted against him!)
To: Travis McGee; Squantos; Southack
49 posted on
12/24/2004 4:49:49 PM PST by
Lazamataz
("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
To: John Jorsett
This is why it is taking so long for us to stand up an Iraqi army. However, with trial and error, through the process of elimination, we are finally developing working units. Those who went into Fallujah with our Marines were surprisinging eager to learn and to help. I read one e-mail from one of our guys who said the Iraqis were exactly where they were expected, without being told.
We are starting from scratch in Iraq, but once built, they will be fantastic.
51 posted on
12/24/2004 5:07:28 PM PST by
McGavin999
(Senate is trying to cover their A$$es with Rumsfeld hide)
To: John Jorsett
Good read. Except the conclusion is incorrect. The reason Arab armies suck, is that they don't allow their women rights. Right to vote, right to drive, right to own property, or the RIGHT TO PRODUCE GOODS and SERVICES. Like avionics, computers, etc. How many patents come out of the Arab world? Or from WOMEN in the Arab world?
The Arab countries under utilizing their women have kept their societies (and armies) a few centuries behind the West. Come to think of it, with Islam and it's creed, maybe the tyrants of Arab society should keep their women oppressed.
5.56mm
52 posted on
12/24/2004 5:07:47 PM PST by
M Kehoe
To: John Jorsett
Oh, hell, it's simple. More of their guys die than those they're fighting against.
54 posted on
12/24/2004 5:14:14 PM PST by
Pahuanui
(When a foolish man hears of the Tao, he laughs out loud)
To: John Jorsett
To: John Jorsett
66 posted on
12/25/2004 1:17:25 AM PST by
lainde
To: John Jorsett
73 posted on
12/25/2004 1:05:10 PM PST by
Lurker
("I answer to you, 'F*** you-I shall die on my feet.!" Oriana Fallaci. You and me both Miss Fallaci.)
To: John Jorsett
That's a great, detailed explanation of the mechanics, but I have a more concise version of the core reason they don't do well in wars:
Genesis 12:3 (referring to Abraham and Israel) And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Merry Christmas!
MM
74 posted on
12/25/2004 1:16:25 PM PST by
MississippiMan
(Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
To: John Jorsett
To: John Jorsett
Arabs lose wars because even after all these years they haven't figured out how to make a viable ICBM out of a suicide bomber. They can strap the warhead and the rocket pack on him, but after that it all starts going horribly wrong...
80 posted on
12/27/2004 11:39:56 AM PST by
RichInOC
(AHMED: WHAT HAPPEN? SHAITAN: YOU NOT KNOW WHAT YOU DOING.)
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