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CAIR-OH: Suit Over School Ban on 'Islam is a Lie' T-Shirt
http://www.cair-net.org/asp/article.asp?id=35474&page=NB ^

Posted on 12/20/2004 9:13:26 PM PST by velocityguy

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To: citizenmike

I dunno...seems to me that the only folks "distracted" by this sort of thing are the PC teachers & administrators. The kids are more distracted by the controversy, media spotlight, & the fair/unfair debates over the many & varied reasons why adults suspend or expel students from school.


41 posted on 12/21/2004 12:00:38 AM PST by torqemada ("Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!")
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To: Grampa Dave

School Administrators are obliged by law to take actions to protect their subjects.....from the outside world and each other.....truth isn't in the equation.

Uniforms would help contain the inmates.....


42 posted on 12/21/2004 12:12:31 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: All

Nite all.....


43 posted on 12/21/2004 12:14:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Old Sarge
And the shirt is wrong because.....?

"...gang-related words ..."

Jesus Christ has a gang of followers who call themselves Christians.


44 posted on 12/21/2004 12:49:22 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: RussP
That's funny. Mohammed called the Judeo-Christian faiths a lie. He rewrote the Bible to "correct" this problem.

The only tolerance muslims show Jews and Christians is that we are still considered "people of the book" (vile/misguided as we may be) and are therefore above Hindus, Buddhists, witches, Scientologists, and atheists in their 3 tiered legal system.
45 posted on 12/21/2004 12:52:41 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: freepatriot32

He musta been in with a bad lot because the authorities carried out the death penalty. He was kind to them in spite of this.


46 posted on 12/21/2004 12:55:19 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Pyro7480


47 posted on 12/21/2004 12:58:25 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: velocityguy

I bet the ACLU is falling all over themselves to represent this student against the evil school district....


48 posted on 12/21/2004 4:17:26 AM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: velocityguy
I'll ask around Sheridan and see what info I can come up with. Close friend of ours has a boy attending there.

Might be interesting to get the kids' POV's on this insanity. I have a hunch that the kids are FOR the victimized boy.

Heck, I'll even take a survey of the locals to find THEIR POV's.

FWIW, the school sits in a corn field.

I'll also let the boy/his parents know about the ACLJ.

49 posted on 12/21/2004 4:39:12 AM PST by mommadooo3
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To: velocityguy
"We have to be careful about hate speech and making sure the civil rights of other students are not violated by persons bringing hateful material into schools,"

I'm pre-caffinated this morning. How does written language violate a person's civil rights?

50 posted on 12/21/2004 4:42:32 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: RussP

" By calling Islam a "lie," you accomplish nothing but to create hostility toward yourself, your religion, and your ideology."

You're naive to think Islam can be swayed by lovey-dovey sappy sweet behavior.

Far better to provoke people to investigate Islam themselves and find out the truth than to ignore it while it grows in size, overwhelming those in it's path.


51 posted on 12/21/2004 4:52:03 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
RE: Wife Beating Imam...

When asked, "What do you say to a woman with two black eyes..."
he replied, "Nothing. She's already been told twice."
52 posted on 12/21/2004 7:08:55 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It is probably okay to wear a Che Shirt or a Ho Chi Minh shirt in this school.

Maybe uniforms are the answer to keep the trash out as well.


53 posted on 12/21/2004 7:17:23 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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To: Grampa Dave; Happy2BMe
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55 posted on 12/21/2004 7:55:34 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: RussP

Is it polite, NO. Is it illegal, NO, and if it is it shouldn't be! We have the right to be ignorant and obnoxious if we want to.

This Hate Crime Legislation is a Denal/Supression of our Constitutional Right of Free Speec Guranteed under the Constitution.

Why Christians and the Church are unable to fight the culture war
Restore America - http://www.noDNC.com ^ | October 23, 2004
Posted on 10/23/2004 1:15:13 AM EDT by woodb01
Why Christians and the Church are unable to fight the culture war
although it's still not too late
October 23, 2004
http://www.nodnc.com

Often, in and out of church walls today, we hear about the apathy of the religious community. Hardly a month goes by that the church is not embroiled in some major controversy to the glee of the anti-christian left. The Church in America has lost its soul. The American church no longer fears God, and no longer loves God.

If this sounds like harsh criticism, I intend to fully support it in just a moment.

First, a little background. Since as far back as I can remember, I was raised in a Baptist Church, in my late teen years, after considerable rebellion, I had an "awakening" to what is meant by being "born again" after getting involved in the Pentecostal / Charismatic movement. Not the typical emotional "born again" experience that many people go through, but a true, life-changing, life-altering event that only an encounter with a living God could have initiated. This event led me to pour over the pages of the Bible for over 20 years, reading it cover to cover many times.

In a direct parallel to the church and our out of control culture today, I was on a roller coaster ride. On the wagon, off the wagon, running after God, running away from God, believing in a Heavenly Father and then having my doubts. Compromise, tolerance, foolishness, and sin were regular occurrences in my life, just like the American Church and American Culture today.

Then one day reading my Bible I stumbled on this:
Proverbs 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil...
That unnerved me because I didn't HATE evil. I was "tolerant," I was accepting just like all good little secular humanist citizens should be. I knew there was something wrong because if I didn't fear God, then how could I profess to truly be a Christian? Then other verses struck me:
Psalms 97:10 You that love the LORD, hate evil...
Romans 12:9 ...Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
Confronted with this harsh reality that I did not HATE evil and therefore did not love or fear God, I was forced to change. My realization forced me to concede that I was headed straight for hell--, just like today's American Culture, and frighteningly enough, the American Church.

HATE, is a passionate thing. HATE is an active thing. You can't be apathetic if you have that passion. Activism and involvement against the causes of evil are the obvious results. Am I advocating violence? NO! Absolutely not! What I am advocating is serious, sincere, and committed activism to confronting and changing the sick and twisted evil in this culture today.

For example, as prayer was taken out of the schools, and abortion became the judge made "law of the land," every pastor and Christian in this country should have been running for Congress for the sole purpose of impeaching the Supreme Court Justices. It should have been the American Church's passion to stop the evils of the anti-christian assaults of American religious tradition and to stop the butcher of innocent human life. But there was nothing.
Today, with the controversy surrounding gay marriage, it hasn't been the Protestant faiths leading the fight, but the Catholic church, family groups, father's groups, and the Republican Party. The American Church's protestants are eerily silent.

Recently the democrats in Congress attempted to pass new "hate crimes" legislation identical to Canada's. In Canada, it is a hate crime to preach against homosexuality, even if you take it directly from the Bible. Yet still the church and christians do nothing.

The church, the family, values, morals, ethics, our children and our country are under attack. A relentless assault is being waged on patriotism and America from treasonous traitors within and still the American Church stands idly by as a spectator. It's time for American Christians to find their passion and their souls. DEMAND that your pastor abide by the Bible and teach what the Bible says about hating evil and if that pastor refuses, that pastor does NOT fear the Lord, and does NOT love God! That pastor must be removed from that position. It's time for the American Church to clean house and once cleaned to stand face to face with the vile anti-christian beast that has arisen in American government and lop the 7 headed hydra's heads off!


56 posted on 12/21/2004 7:58:28 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Grampa Dave
Here are the proposed uniforms. They got them cheap because they were made in China.

Notice one child is violating dress code by wearing a green tie instead of the proud red of all of the other workers' children.

57 posted on 12/21/2004 9:06:25 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

Geez, he might be a boys scout with that green scarf/tie!:)


58 posted on 12/21/2004 9:11:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Rummy Phobia is the new mental disorder of the left. It is similiar to Hate GW Syndrome!)
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To: RussP

If you think the T shirt is offensive you really should read the biography of the 'prophet' - the most offensive creature on the planet.
See tagline for link to pdf book.


59 posted on 12/21/2004 4:25:07 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks for Link.)
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To: RussP

And furthermore, I have been known to tell a fat person they are fat. Being fat is dangerous to their health, by pointing it out to them, they can perhaps do something about it, like go on a diet. Same goes for islam. Being a mooselimb has killed more of THEM than it has killed US, but they are intending to address that imbalance.


60 posted on 12/21/2004 4:29:26 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf. Click Fred Nerks for Link.)
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