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Poll: Most Americans Think Iraq War Not Worth Fighting (Poll stays, troll goes)
Washington Post ^ | 12/20/2004 | Christopher Muste

Posted on 12/20/2004 3:26:59 PM PST by Jeb for Pres 2008

The survey found that 56 percent of the country now believes that the cost of the conflict in Iraq outweighs the benefits, while 42 percent disagreed. It marked the first time since the war began that a clear majority of Americans have judged the war to have been a mistake.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: herekittykitty; pollsoniraq; troll; vikingkitten; zot; zotfest
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I couldn't find this story on any conservative web sites. I guess the Post is up to their old fibs again.
1 posted on 12/20/2004 3:26:59 PM PST by Jeb for Pres 2008
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008
So that Election thingy we did on Nov 2nd was something to do between PravdABDNC polls??? We all know how accurate these polls are!!!

Merry Christmas to Our Troops

2 posted on 12/20/2004 3:29:11 PM PST by bray (Keep Christ in the Manger!)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

"A total of 1,004 randomly selected Americans were interviewed Dec. 16 to 19."

Probably all in San Francisco or maybe Canada.


3 posted on 12/20/2004 3:29:59 PM PST by QQQQQ
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

Did Zogby conduct the poll?

memo to the WP:

Nov. 2nd.

Your polls are about as worthless as you have become.


4 posted on 12/20/2004 3:30:34 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008
So 56% feel we should let terrorist breed and jihad our homes and families.

That is what all the lack of positive press does to the American people. Plus many have memories that can't seem to go past a season.
5 posted on 12/20/2004 3:31:07 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008
And yet:

Still, nearly six in 10 -- 58 percent -- said the United States should keep its military forces in Iraq rather than withdraw them, a proportion that has not changed in seven months.
6 posted on 12/20/2004 3:31:10 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

What can we expect, since the "stone age media" has been uniformly against the war since the beginning, and has been continuously propagandizing against it by all means at its disposal. News coverage is TOTALLY one-sided, just as bad as the same "SAM" slanted election coverage against Bush and for Kerry.


7 posted on 12/20/2004 3:31:10 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008
The MSM will stop at nothing to try and make us the losers in Iraq. They are traitors; pure and simple.

They go to press and airwaves every day with another angle of America bad/Enemy good. I don't even listen anymore. I wonder how many others don't as well.

8 posted on 12/20/2004 3:31:48 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis (FR = A pajama party 24/7)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

I wonder how many northerners supported Mr. Lincoln's war in 1862. Just asking.


9 posted on 12/20/2004 3:33:06 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil the institutions they control)
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To: bray

That's the amusing bit. The election did turn on Iraq/WOT and 51% sided with the President.

They can keep issuing their polls as they desire, but the American people made their will known Nov. 2nd, 2004. These numbers are absolutely meaningless in comparison to the election itself.


10 posted on 12/20/2004 3:34:03 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

Isn't it peculiar that the liberals "polls" ALWAYS favor their position on the issue?


11 posted on 12/20/2004 3:34:08 PM PST by MisterRepublican ("I must go. I must be elusive.")
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008
Who cares? In case Whole-scale Propagandist missed it, about 3.5 million MORE Americans agree with us then with them. Guess the Posties missed that thing we call ELECTIONS we had in Nov.

You are irrelevant WP, get use to it.
12 posted on 12/20/2004 3:34:26 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Next up, US Senate. 60 in 06!)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

That's probably true. The only person I know who thinks it costs too much to fight evil is my uncle. He's an old bitter liberal who blames everyone but himself for his own shortcomings. Ironically, he's much better off than me and I'm examining my mistakes so I can avoid repeating them. I have hope and he has none. Crazy, isn't it?


13 posted on 12/20/2004 3:35:14 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: MNJohnnie

You are irrelevant WP, get use to it.


The more we monitor the news, the less relevant they become...Yes!


14 posted on 12/20/2004 3:36:58 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

Just as the terrorists in Iraq planned -- Create ongoing confusion, and try to "Vietnamize" the Iraq effort in the minds of dumb Americans.


15 posted on 12/20/2004 3:37:12 PM PST by My2Cents (To those inclined to receive it, "Merry Christmas!" To those NOT so inclined, "Bah Humbug!")
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

Depends on how the question(s) were asked.....I don't believe this. But if it is true, those people are idiots if they don't understand what's at stake here.


16 posted on 12/20/2004 3:37:27 PM PST by TexasTaysor
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

Agreed.All the news that's fit to distort.


17 posted on 12/20/2004 3:37:46 PM PST by gimme1ibertee (A liberal is a mental case is a liberal.)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008
Viet Nam media influence II...coming to your local television soon read more here
18 posted on 12/20/2004 3:38:09 PM PST by 506trooper (There is no such thing as too much ammo or fuel on board.........unless you're on fire)
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To: My2Cents

in the minds of dumb Americans.


And that's about where the propaganda ends.


19 posted on 12/20/2004 3:38:28 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: bray
You make a great point concerning the election thingy in November. I guess we are all supposed to get amnesia, and forget the fact that Bush got 3.5 million more votes than sKerry and had a total of 51% of the vote. Typical WaPo lefty poll.
20 posted on 12/20/2004 3:38:31 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

Usless tripe spewed by a leftist rag.


21 posted on 12/20/2004 3:40:42 PM PST by Modok
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To: conservativecorner

I liked the reference Bush made to the poll we had on Nov 2. Pretty much says it all.


22 posted on 12/20/2004 3:40:50 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: 506trooper

Your (broken) link is a barf alert.


23 posted on 12/20/2004 3:41:40 PM PST by CedarDave (Primary rule of Dem whining: The complaint need not be accurate as long as the charge is serious.)
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To: Jacquerie
Lincoln's war was unpopular in the early going. He was very worried the Copperheads, the Northern Democrats, would win in 1864, even after the twin victories at Gettysburg and Vicksburg in July 1863. The fall of Atlanta seems to have cemented the belief in a majority that Lincoln was on the path to victory.

The problem with the MSM today is they won't call a victory a victory, but tell the people its a defeat.

24 posted on 12/20/2004 3:41:58 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

Election results say otherwise.


25 posted on 12/20/2004 3:54:33 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Free the Fallujah one)
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To: All
Man! They zotted him already. I thought they were supposed to be tortured to death, not put down humanely!
26 posted on 12/20/2004 3:54:47 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008; Admin Moderator

Whoa! Wait a minute here. Why are the mods suspending the poster and zotting the thread? It's a legitimate article (I checked) and it seems he followed the rules. What gives, anyway?


27 posted on 12/20/2004 3:55:21 PM PST by CedarDave (Primary rule of Dem whining: The complaint need not be accurate as long as the charge is serious.)
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To: CedarDave

Not his first ID here.


28 posted on 12/20/2004 3:57:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: superskunk
Man! They zotted him already.

Yeah, but why? I've occasionally posted negative articles from the MSM and he followed the rules. What have I missed???

29 posted on 12/20/2004 3:57:51 PM PST by CedarDave (Primary rule of Dem whining: The complaint need not be accurate as long as the charge is serious.)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

Imagine that, and Bush is still President

Waaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


30 posted on 12/20/2004 3:57:57 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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Okay, then if I post this it will stay?


31 posted on 12/20/2004 3:58:00 PM PST by ShadowDancer
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To: Admin Moderator

Should have tortured the little piggy first.


32 posted on 12/20/2004 3:59:19 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thanks for the explanation. He seemed legit.


33 posted on 12/20/2004 3:59:20 PM PST by CedarDave (Primary rule of Dem whining: The complaint need not be accurate as long as the charge is serious.)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008
This account has been banned or suspended.

It's a good thing. The kittens are tired.


34 posted on 12/20/2004 4:00:02 PM PST by trisham
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

This is bad news, we must pull out of Iraq and invite Bin Laden to take over.


35 posted on 12/20/2004 4:00:03 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: CedarDave

Dead link, dude. Don't tell me they pulled a story in 5 minutes.


36 posted on 12/20/2004 4:00:25 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

ZOT

37 posted on 12/20/2004 4:02:27 PM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: trisham
Not even a scap left?
38 posted on 12/20/2004 4:03:26 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

Its all how you ask the question. How many truly understand what the "benefits" are? We are talking about changing the world for the better and it will take many years, Its about the future, not todays cost but the security of all our tommorrows. Was the benefit of the Soviet Union collapse worth the cost of the cold war?


39 posted on 12/20/2004 4:03:40 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: superskunk

The Washington Post links (both of them) work fine for me. However, 506trooper's link is bad.


40 posted on 12/20/2004 4:03:45 PM PST by CedarDave (Primary rule of Dem whining: The complaint need not be accurate as long as the charge is serious.)
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To: QQQQQ
Probably all in San Francisco or maybe Canada.

If that's the case then 56% seems awful low.

41 posted on 12/20/2004 4:05:31 PM PST by GOP_Raider (Win, Lose or Tie...Raiders Til I Die!)
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To: trisham
About as ugly...er...funny


42 posted on 12/20/2004 4:05:50 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Never underestimate the power of a cacophony of Cowbells played in unison...It shocks the mind.)
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To: trisham

You got the PJ's on the cat. The look tells me it might be more difficult to take them off!!


43 posted on 12/20/2004 4:06:22 PM PST by CedarDave (Primary rule of Dem whining: The complaint need not be accurate as long as the charge is serious.)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

Or conservative web sites are.


44 posted on 12/20/2004 4:06:42 PM PST by jammer
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To: CedarDave

Just took me to some sort of login page. No story there, but if you got a good link to post, then by all means.


45 posted on 12/20/2004 4:08:09 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: Soul Seeker
The election did turn on Iraq/WOT

Darn. I thought FR was replete with posters saying the election turned on "moral values." Guess the answer depends upon what situation they are answering or squirming to answer.

By the way, the "Iraq/WOT" concatenation is what is becoming unravelled in the public's mind, hence a decline since the election.

46 posted on 12/20/2004 4:10:52 PM PST by jammer
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To: superskunk

This is not right or fair. Trolls need torture!


47 posted on 12/20/2004 4:11:32 PM PST by OSHA (OSHA, the Grand Wizard and Chief Executive Fascist of FreeperWorld- Industries LLC)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008
"It marked the first time since the war began that a clear majority of Americans have judged the war to have been a mistake."

Yet it only took one Moderator to judge your post as a mistake.

48 posted on 12/20/2004 4:14:48 PM PST by Radix (How does one get cleared for awful facts about Moderators #43?)
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To: superskunk

Try bugmenot.com to bypass their registration page. After I did that, they apparently put a cookie on my computer. It says my user name is "Hubba"! LOL


49 posted on 12/20/2004 4:15:14 PM PST by CedarDave (Primary rule of Dem whining: The complaint need not be accurate as long as the charge is serious.)
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To: Jeb for Pres 2008

I'm kinda new here. Can someone tell me what 'Zot' means?
Thanks,
/snag


50 posted on 12/20/2004 4:17:32 PM PST by Snagglepuss (Thoughts are things)
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