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Two county deputies shot, along with suspect (Two ARIZONA COPS shot by ILLEGAL ALIEN!!!)
East Valley Tribune ^ | 12/17/2004 | Kim Smith and Kristina Davis

Posted on 12/18/2004 6:45:29 PM PST by nanak

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To: B4Ranch

Found him again a few days later -- out in the elements again and hovering on the shady side of herpetological coma. I nick-named him Brain Dead. Even at 4 feet, he's no threat to the dogs or cats, so he has free movement when I'm at home. He is currently coiled up under the desk lamp.


441 posted on 12/19/2004 9:55:34 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Speak softly and carry a gopher snake!)
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To: ALIPAC
You: Skin HeadS for Tancredo eh?

Me: I'm not going to link to stormfront. Do your own search.

You: There you go running for the little race card hoping it will be your silver bullet.

You asked the question. Are you feeling ok?

442 posted on 12/19/2004 9:55:41 PM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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To: ALIPAC

depends on the poll you look at sometimes it is higher than 80%.


443 posted on 12/19/2004 9:57:26 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: Once-Ler
I am sure that, if you are from the south, you have a greater knowledge of southern problems, even if you don't understand their root causes

The root cause is that illegal aliens have governments that care nothing for their people. In addition, we have a government that caters to illegal aliens at the expense of Americans.

I suspect the problems are similar for each state, it is just that the degree of severity is greater in southern states

What problems?

444 posted on 12/19/2004 10:01:51 PM PST by Ajnin
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To: Once-Ler
Consistency is a virtue. If NAFTA is so wonderful, then why, even when the economy is not booming, do the Illegal Aliens continue to pour in?
445 posted on 12/19/2004 10:02:27 PM PST by investigateworld (( You may spel-chek at your option ))
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To: Once-Ler
How can you not be for NAFTA?

Ask a Mexican. They got NAFTA-shafted. Truly and without vaseline.

446 posted on 12/19/2004 10:05:58 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Speak softly and carry a gopher snake!)
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To: ALIPAC
Well I guess we had better keep them busy with jobs here. If our economy gets worse, they might revolt here!

Is it really that bad for you? I'm sorry. I have a decent job, and I've got friends and relatives passing on job offers. I can't relate I guess.

Nice work, associating illegals with rapists and thieves. It's so effortless for you. You must be very practiced from the forum you were posting to prior to Sep 16, 2004.

You think we have 15 million fresh faces in the country illegally that are on the verge of revolting and you don't have the strength to even stand up against it in your own mind.

That's quite a leap. I never said the illegals were on the verge of revolt. I said ripping 15 million from their homes and shipping them to Mexico, where they cannot sustain themselves, is a recipe for disaster. Thank you for allowing me another opportunity to highlight a point few people consider, which is the Human Beings were are talking about will behave in a predictable manner. It may take some time to carefully weigh the outcomes and consequences of actions, but it can be done. Think.

447 posted on 12/19/2004 10:07:14 PM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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To: Once-Ler
Here's syllabus #1 of your MALDEF homework:

Press Releases

Date Press Release Title

11/30/2004 MALDEF Files Suit Against Proposition 200 ‘Pan’ Initiative

11/30/2004 MALDEF Wins Court Ruling for Fair School Funding

11/16/2004 $40 Million Payment, Detailed Plan for Diversity in Employment Discrimination Suit Against Retail Giant Abercrombie & Fitch

11/10/2004 MALDEF Responds To Likely Nomination Of White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales To The Position Of Attorney General

11/03/2004 MALDEF Urges Latino Community To Remain Calm Following Passage Of Prop. 200 In Arizona

11/03/2004 MALDEF Pide Que La Comunidad Latina Mantenga La Calmadespues De La Aprobacion De La Prop. 200

10/18/2004 MALDEF Releases Study On Latino Health Care, Joins Latinos United For Prop. 72

9/29/2004 MALDEF ‘Welcomes’ N.M. Supreme Court Ruling On Voter I.D. Requirements

9/24/2004 Veto Of ‘Repatriation’ Act Inconsistent With Past State Legislation

9/22/2004 MALDEF ‘Profoundly Disappointed’ With Governor Schwarzenegger’s Veto Of Driver’s License Bill

9/17/2004 MALDEF Applauds Solis For ‘Smart From The Start’

9/15/2004 MALDEF Celebrates Victory For Equity In Texas School Finance Litigation

9/15/2004 MALDEF Mourns the Loss of Nation's First Mexican American Judge

8/26/2004 Measure Shedding Light on Shameful 1930s ‘Repatriation’ Program Is Approved by Legislature; MALDEF Urges Governor to Sign Bill

8/26/2004 MALDEF Supports Driver’s License Bill

8/13/2004 MALDEF 'Pleased' With Settlement Of California Public Schools Inequity Case, Williams V. California

8/12/2004 MALDEF Criticizes DHS Expansion of Border Patrol Power

7/14/2004 MALDEF Commends the Defeat of the Federal Marriage Amendment

448 posted on 12/19/2004 10:08:29 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Once-Ler
I said ripping 15 million from their homes and shipping them to Mexico, where they cannot sustain themselves, is a recipe for disaster.

You are partially correct. It is a recipe for disaster for the wannabe Spanish Dons who now rule every aspect of Mexican life. The rest of the population are just peons to them, human chattel to be used or abused as they see fit.

451 posted on 12/19/2004 10:20:49 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Speak softly and carry a gopher snake!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

I just read on www.americanpatrol.com, that Bush and Fox are going to resume talks and illegal aliens will receive drivers licenses this year.


452 posted on 12/19/2004 10:23:22 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

How are the two men that were shot?


453 posted on 12/19/2004 10:24:00 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
It's good, isn't it, to get advice from all sides, including the uninformed, and those who haven't learned from history.
454 posted on 12/19/2004 10:29:21 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: television is just wrong

I really doubt there will be any grating of licenses. Last word tonight from Russell Pearce was that Sean and Lew were doing fine.


455 posted on 12/19/2004 10:29:42 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Speak softly and carry a gopher snake!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

I am glad to hear they are doing fine. My sympathies to them and their families.


456 posted on 12/19/2004 10:30:46 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: Once-Ler
Your comment: recipe for disaster:

I think we on the same wave length. Shipping back the 15 million pollos (I say that with affection) would cause a moment or two of discomfort for the corruption b@stards that run Mexico. But like child birth with it's moments of messiness, it brings forth life. Do Mexican want to be known as the toilet cleaners and fruit pickers for the Nortenanos? Give them a chance to be men, masters of their own destiny.
457 posted on 12/19/2004 10:31:00 PM PST by investigateworld (( You may spel-chek at your option ))
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To: JackelopeBreeder
I had friends who would have disputed that point if they had lived through their encounter with a truck full of illegals.

What can I possibly say in the face of such tragedy except I am truly sorry for your loss. I often write in a sarcastic tone, but I honestly understand your anger if you are factually relaying your story. Prayers for the dead.

Anecdotal evidence is not proof, just as the brutal slaying of children at Columbine was not proof toward banning guns, or against the existence of God. It's just sad. There is a child in Mexico who's father was shot by bandits and sister raped by the responding Sheriff. Life sometimes sucks. You have my sympathy but my opinion remains my opinion.

Two of the four coyotes involved are now facing the death penalty.

As well they should. I hope it gives some measure of consoling.

458 posted on 12/19/2004 10:34:57 PM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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To: Fatalis

The Spaniards tried to establish a presidio a few miles northeast of my house about the time of the French & Indian Wars. The Apaches turned it into an exotic game preserve, allowing a few survivors to escape back to Mexico less than two years later. The Mexicans never even tried tried to come back until the 4th US Cavalry had the area under control in 1875.


459 posted on 12/19/2004 10:38:18 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Speak softly and carry a gopher snake!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
Blame Tancredo.
460 posted on 12/19/2004 10:40:37 PM PST by Fatalis
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