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Video Footage Yesterday of N. Koreans Escaping Over Barbed Wire Barefoot (Japanese TV)
NNN TV, Japan (Streaming Video) ^ | 17 December 2004 | AmericanInTokyo

Posted on 12/17/2004 12:17:24 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

Footage of Japanese TV from Beijing showing 7 North Koreans escaping LAST NIGHT over tall BARBED WIRE FENCES (some barefoot on the wire and all apparantly without gloves) to get into neutral territory in Beijing, in a Japanese children's school, to safety and the West. Shades of the East Germans getting out of Berlin through the wire or over The Wall.

Video Stream Link above and here (brief, in Japanese):

http://www.bcast.co.jp/cgi-bin/yahoo/news.asx?cid=20041217-00000051-nnn-int-movie-000&media=wm300k

Chinese Communists put up extra security afterward and are trying to prevent more escapes by North Koreans, currently underground in China, to Freedom.

MUST SEE VIDEO.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Japan; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: barbedwire; beijing; communism; defection; escape; freedom; northeastasia; northkorea; pyongyang; school
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Look at the fascist Red Chinese guards (in their Nazi-like uniforms) hoping to catch some additional defectors the next day and send them back to North Korea to certain execution, or at least discourage repeated attempts:


1 posted on 12/17/2004 12:17:25 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
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To: TigerLikesRooster; OahuBreeze; Steel Wolf; yonif; SevenofNine; Thud

Check it out. A short, but dramatic video.


2 posted on 12/17/2004 12:18:02 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Indicator that Kim Il's regime is collapsing?


3 posted on 12/17/2004 12:19:28 PM PST by Americanwolf (Democratic Underground... Digital Crack for the the loony left.....Hey troll! Put the pipe down!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

"Neutral Chinese territory...?" That's a good one. I hope they can't see their faces, otherwise, teir families are dead meat.


4 posted on 12/17/2004 12:19:50 PM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
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To: Americanwolf
Yes.

However, the terms of collapse could be anything from 1-3 more years from now. One must be patient here. But first, yes, all of these things must come.

5 posted on 12/17/2004 12:24:01 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

bttt


6 posted on 12/17/2004 12:27:10 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Intresting... I know I had read before that there were thoughts that he was either Ill or in a depresion over a favored mistress dying. It creates an intresting focal point for asia for the next few years at least.


7 posted on 12/17/2004 12:27:43 PM PST by Americanwolf (Democratic Underground... Digital Crack for the the loony left.....Hey troll! Put the pipe down!)
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To: Conservative Canuck
Read the post again.

Noboday said "neutral Chinese territory".

I said "neutral territory in Beijing". Which is what the Nihonjin Gakko is. Japanese territory...same as an Embassy.

8 posted on 12/17/2004 12:28:14 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

It looks like they were barefooted in order to get a better climb on the wire mesh.


9 posted on 12/17/2004 12:28:42 PM PST by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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To: ops33

Yes, they were (or some of them). Ouch. That's gotta hurt. But it would be worth it.


10 posted on 12/17/2004 12:29:19 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

While I sympathize with the defecting North Koreans, you're a little extreme in your description of the Chinese guards (and uniforms) - just doing their job. At least they're attempting to maintain border security, and some law & order with illegal aliens in their midst. Makes me a little envious...


11 posted on 12/17/2004 12:30:13 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: DTogo

They're people who don't seem to want freedom for themselves, or anyone else. They aren't guarding against economic invaders. They're chicoms!


12 posted on 12/17/2004 12:34:37 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Revel; Velveeta; Viking2002; backhoe; ...

Good video clip posted by AIT.


13 posted on 12/17/2004 12:35:03 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

But its a Socialist Paradise... fools!


14 posted on 12/17/2004 12:35:54 PM PST by Mikey_1962
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To: monkeywrench

If the Chinese looked the other way or allowed it this time, there'd be hordes climbing over the fences of every foreign school/embassy/company demanding help/assylum. Hordes crossing the border... sound familiar?


15 posted on 12/17/2004 12:37:54 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: DTogo

They are posted to keep North Korean political refugees and defectors out of the Japanese school. I won't make excuses for them. Sorry to be about 'extreme' about Freedom. I doubt if any of those who went over the wire last night on that video, if you and I sat down with them, would think of me as 'extreme' in my thinking or description.


16 posted on 12/17/2004 12:39:44 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: DTogo

Yes, those dirty, lazy Mexica... er, North Koreans are just trying to take jobs from hard working Ameri... er, Japanese. Enforce the borders! Mammon bless America!


17 posted on 12/17/2004 12:41:04 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I'm all for freedom too, but I'm also for law and order. See my post above to monkeywrench.


18 posted on 12/17/2004 12:41:47 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: DTogo
Yes.

Indeed.

It reminds me of the hoards of Czechs, East Germans, Hungarians and Poles going out of Eastern Europe in 1989/1990 when various nations dropped their police state border system design to HOLD PEOPLE in, and the 'hoards' left by bus, auto, hitchhiking, whatever. Almost like the 'hoards' of Koreans stream constantly south from North Korea in 1953.

19 posted on 12/17/2004 12:42:17 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: DTogo

Upon which do you place a priority?


20 posted on 12/17/2004 12:43:53 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: DTogo

They want freedom! Not a job. Maybe the chicoms need to face the freedom issue, instead of their side effects, like these poor people. This can't be compared to the hordes from our southern border, except the part about our elites not dealing with the corruption issue to the south of us, leaving we taxpayers to deal with the side effects.


21 posted on 12/17/2004 12:44:46 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Thanks American In Tokyo.


22 posted on 12/17/2004 12:48:36 PM PST by Cindy
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To: AmericanInTokyo
A delicate balance, isn't it?

Am I pro-North Korea? No. Am I pro-Chicom police tactics on it's citizens? No. But as I said, if the Chinese looked the other way once, the situation would explode on them, and they know that. Democratic principles are taking place in China, but not always in our Western sense and not overnight. I've been there and done business there. As long as you don't stir the pot, you generally get left alone and things are gradually progressing.

23 posted on 12/17/2004 12:49:25 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
God bless them.


24 posted on 12/17/2004 12:50:52 PM PST by rdb3 (Can I join the Pajamahadeen even if I sleep in the nude?)
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To: rdb3
-----God bless them. -----

Exactly, I was just going to say that.

25 posted on 12/17/2004 1:07:16 PM PST by Still German Shepherd
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Thanks! Bttt


26 posted on 12/17/2004 1:11:11 PM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Right you are. Assumed "neutral territory in Beijing" meant China, not Japanese mission. Thanks for setting me straight. :-)


27 posted on 12/17/2004 1:24:14 PM PST by Conservative Canuck (The Voice of One Crying in the Wilderness)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


28 posted on 12/17/2004 2:08:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Ping


29 posted on 12/17/2004 2:16:27 PM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: DTogo
At the end of the day, I am pleased that nearly 995 people, according to my research, have seen or accessed this thread nearly three hours after it was put up here today on FR; and out of that, I am sure many saw the video (the reason it is slowing down).

I'll settle for that and glad word of this got out regardless. Thanks for your opinion sir.

30 posted on 12/17/2004 2:55:17 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; All

DAMN AIT that dramatic video

I think Little Kim going be Roamny very soon


31 posted on 12/17/2004 3:02:39 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

bump for later read


32 posted on 12/17/2004 3:09:23 PM PST by cdbull23
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The cameraman was filming from *inside* the NK embassy?!

33 posted on 12/17/2004 3:18:29 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

The school with the Chinese guards looks familiar. Does the reporter say where that school is located in Beijing?


34 posted on 12/17/2004 3:51:05 PM PST by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You're very welcome! And thanks for posting this news event and video link. I hope Kim Jong Il either has a change of heart ASAP or is overthrown (taken out, whatever) ASAP so the misery and suffering in North Korea will come to an end.


35 posted on 12/17/2004 4:28:39 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Americanwolf

doubt it. they did this quite often(but had shoes on)
when I was stationed on the DMZ in 88-89.

The NK's are funny. They used to float propaganda balloons
over with pen and tie sets on them to try to convince SK's
to defect.Like yeah,I'm going to move to your hell hole
for a ugly polyester tie and a crappy pen. Now if it were
an El Rushbo tie and a Cross pen, maybe...

While I was there I never heard of a SK going North.
At least not willingly.


36 posted on 12/17/2004 4:38:52 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece: Hope IS on the way...)
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To: Rakkasan1

man patroling the DMZ not my idea of fun!

Yeah, I kinda figured that the run for the border is a common place thing for the NK's... but I have heard more and more lately...


37 posted on 12/17/2004 4:41:48 PM PST by Americanwolf (Democratic Underground... Digital Crack for the the loony left.....Hey troll! Put the pipe down!)
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To: SevenofNine

Thank you SofN; you'll certainly see that you are on my "Developments in North Korea" FR Ping list.


38 posted on 12/17/2004 4:49:03 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I couldn't understand what she was saying. Is that how they talk in the Red States?


39 posted on 12/17/2004 4:52:06 PM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: Southack
I wasn't sure what you meant, but the cameraman was located on a public street in Beijing, filming the fence that surrounds the Japanese School for Japanese nationals in Beijing...from the outside. It may or may not be near the North Korean embassy. Most of the embassies are in this one part of Beijing, somewhat east-northeast of Tienanmen Square.

(I actually had been in the DPRK embassy many many years ago doing a free lance report).

40 posted on 12/17/2004 4:52:42 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: yonif
The reporter did not say where the school is in Beijing. However, I obtained a photograph (of the school's entrance). It is located on #6 West Chiang Dai Street in the city's Chang-an District (off Chang-an Boulevard). It is run by the Embassy of Japan.


41 posted on 12/17/2004 5:01:12 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

I spose so.


42 posted on 12/17/2004 5:02:26 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

43 posted on 12/17/2004 5:06:14 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: AmericanInTokyo

If I am not mistaken, I am pretty sure I know this school. This school neighbors the (former) site of the International School of Beijing.


44 posted on 12/17/2004 5:10:27 PM PST by yonif ("So perish all Thine enemies, O the Lord" - Judges 5:31)
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To: yonif

You are right. They had moved to a new location, and I believe this is next to the old location.


45 posted on 12/17/2004 5:25:30 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: Americanwolf

cold (like MN in the winter).

There was a lot of stuff that would never make the US news
back then (prior to internet) .


46 posted on 12/17/2004 7:18:31 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece: Hope IS on the way...)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; TigerLikesRooster; yonif; OahuBreeze; Steel Wolf; SevenofNine; Thud; DTogo
A new video just discovered:

http://www.bcast.co.jp/cgi-bin/yahoo/news.asx?cid=20041217-00000170-fnn-int-movie-001&media=wm300k

This one with a different Japanese TV network. The reporter went out to show how high the wall and barbed wire is around the Japanese school compound in Beijing that the defecting North Koreans had to get over last night. And, another video of the escape attempt (fleeing into the Japanese school). (report about a minute long)

The report closes saying the North Koreans had memos on them in English that said:

"S.O.S. We are North Koreans. We are fleeing to freedom. We wish to go to South Korea. Please help us!"

Also the report said the North Koreans were being debriefed/interviewed by Japanese Embassy, which noted they all had North Korean accents (dialects).

47 posted on 12/17/2004 7:42:26 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: Rakkasan1

BTTT


48 posted on 12/17/2004 7:45:03 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (FR: Will be mature & independent when we can "Freep" either a GOP or Dem White House on any issue.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
The report said the note in English read:

"S.O.S. We are North Koreans. We wish to go to South Korea. Please help us!"

The Japanese video report did not mention "We are fleeing to freedom." in the note (although that's probably why they want to go to South Korea). It also said there were 2 men in their 30s, 4 women, and one girl among the 7 who scaled the fence.

I wonder who was present in the middle of the night (with lighting) to conveniently videotape these people climbing over the fence. Rather odd...

49 posted on 12/17/2004 8:11:28 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Calpernia
communism is an evil, atheistic, satanic and repressive entity. I bet if they were given a chance, most would come to the west.
50 posted on 12/17/2004 9:39:16 PM PST by Coleus (I support ethical, effective and safe stem cell research and use: adult, umbilical cord, bone marrow)
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