Here he is.
Posted on 12/08/2004 9:05:40 PM PST by FreedomCalls
The United States has lost the war in Iraq, and that's a good thing.
I don't mean that the loss of American and Iraqi lives is to be celebrated. The death and destruction are numbingly tragic, and the suffering in Iraq is hard for most of us in the United States to comprehend.
The tragedy is compounded because these deaths haven't protected Americans or brought freedom to Iraqis. They have come in the quest to extend the American empire in this "new American century."
So, as a U.S. citizen, I welcome the U.S. defeat for a simple reason: It isn't the defeat of the United States -- its people or their ideals -- but of that empire. And it's essential that the American empire be defeated and dismantled.
The fact that the Bush administration says we are fighting for freedom and democracy (having long ago abandoned fictions about weapons of mass destruction and terrorist ties) does not make it so.
We must look at the reality, no matter how painful. The people of Iraq are better off without Saddam Hussein's despised regime, but that does not prove our benevolent intentions or guarantee that the United States will work to bring meaningful democracy to Iraq.
In Iraq, the Bush administration invaded not to liberate but to extend and deepen U.S. domination. When Bush said, "We have no territorial ambitions; we don't seek an empire," on Nov. 11, 2002, he told a half-truth.
The United States doesn't want to absorb Iraq or take direct possession of its oil. That's not the way of empire today; it's about control over the flow of oil and oil profits, not ownership.
In a world that runs on oil, the nation that controls the flow of oil has great strategic power. U.S. policy-makers want leverage over the economies of competitors -- Western Europe, Japan and China -- that are more dependent on Middle Eastern oil.
The Bush administration has invested money and lives in making Iraq a platform from which the United States can project power.
That requires not the liberation of Iraq but its subordination. But most Iraqis don't want to be subordinated, which is why the United States in some sense lost the war on the day it invaded. One lesson of contemporary history is that occupying armies generate resistance that, inevitably, prevails over imperial power.
When we admit defeat and pull out -- not if, but when -- the fate of Iraqis will depend in part on whether the United States makes good on legal and moral obligations to pay reparations and allows international institutions to aid in creating a truly sovereign Iraq.
We shouldn't expect politicians to do either without pressure. An anti-empire movement -- the joining of anti-war forces with the movement to reject corporate globalization -- must create that pressure.
We should all carry a profound sense of sadness at where decisions made by U.S. policy-makers -- not just the gang in power today but a string of Republican and Democratic administrations -- have left us and the Iraqis. But that sadness should not keep us from pursuing the most courageous act of citizenship in the United States today: pledging to dismantle the American empire.
The planet's resources do not belong to the United States. The century is not America's. We own neither the world nor time. And if we don't give up the quest -- if we don't find our place in the world instead of on top of the world -- there is little hope for a safe, sane and sustainable future.
"So, as a U.S. citizen, I welcome the U.S. defeat"
~Robert Jensen is a journalism professor at the University of Texas at Austin
"So, as a U.S. citizen, I welcome the U.S. defeat"
And as a US citizen, I would like to have my steeled tipped boots meet his face and remove several of his teeth.
He's a commie too.
"The fact that the Bush administration says .... does not make it so."
Of course, the same applies to Robert Jensen.
Hes hoping Hannity invites him on again for more free advertising!!
"Journalism Professor at the University of Texas at Austin"
Gee, why am I not surprised. UT Austin is sometimes called the Karl Marx University at Austin. This is the same school that offers Studies in Lesbian Literature in the course offerings.
People like this should be fired from a university, the families of soldiers and veterans should go to the school and demand his resignation. Left wing scumbag. sees nothing good in replacing a dictator with democracy, declares "defeat" on the eve of free elections. A real pile of human garbage.
To paraphrase Zell Miller: "It's the soldier, not the academic, that gives liberal professors the right to welcome a US defeat."
"Robert Jensen is a journalism professor at the University of Texas at Austin "
Alumni of that university should demand that they fire this professor, who should be fired and charged with treason.
These "experts" all have one important thing in common--they are NOT interested in hearing from iraqis.
Tokyo Rose is alive and well. Couldn't make it 3 paragraphs.
Its amazing how the very tax dollars I bust my butt for support guys like this! He's probably never had a real job!
Really PO's me that a "professor" can fly on peyote rather than logic. He says America was the great big dictator and "lost" from the start because the freedom loving Iraqis will not be subjugated. History is an endless story of powerful nations crushing weaker ones. If the U.S. wanted to "subjugate" Iraq we would do so, instead we are setting up elections. The "freedom fighters" this scumbag is praising are killing Iraqi civilians to prevent elections and restore a terror regime.
Come again? I'm sure all of our very brave soldiers will beg to differ..especially since the war's not over.
God Bless our Troops!!
And before someone will mention the professor's "freedom of speech" right, they should read this excellent editorial:
Free Speech Doesn't Come Without Cost
The First Amendment isn't a shield against criticism.
BY GREGG EASTERBROOK
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=95001420
"Dilemmas in the relationship between the freedom of speech and the cost of speech are summed up in the case of Richard Berthold, a professor at the University of New Mexico. On Sept. 11, Mr. Berthold twice told classes, "Anyone who would blow up the Pentagon would have my vote." Students have since held rallies against Mr. Berthold, and state leaders called for his dismissal."
There should be a call for the dismissal of Robert Jensen also.
Maybe we can get the Jensen guy to do a little exercise. Namely, imagine a world that never had the U.S. What would it be like? Maybe speaking German or Russian?
Jensen is the far left fool who said on Sept. 12, 2001, (paraphrase) "Anybody who strikes the Pentagon has my vote." He is a jackass of the first rank and not worth one moment's consideration.
Contact me at:
Robert Jensen
School of Journalism
1 University Station A1000
University of Texas
Austin, TX 78712-0113
work: (512) 471-1990
fax: (512) 471-7979
rjensen@uts.cc.utexas.edu
Here he is.
Oops...I am wrong .....it was Berthold of New Mexico not Jensen who made the "pentagon / vote" remark. Jensen was in there somewhere at the time making intemperate and foolish statements, I'm quite sure.
He's obviously not "with us."
After reading that pack of lies, I am ashamed for the University of Texas.
Double tap.
Austin, Texas is a joke. I lived in Texas for many years. It's just a typical commie college town with too many tenured professors who spew this kind of crap. The rest of Texas is Texas. Austin is full of girlie men. And no one takes them seriously. Neither should we.
With tenure he could defecate on the governor and the legislature and still keep his position. Freedom of expression/academic freedom, dontcha know?
You should have seen the stink raised by the faculty at the University of Central Florida when the alumni tried to get Sami al-Arian fired.
I am sick to death of people slamming so-called "American imperialism." Will someone tell me what is so awful about an empire? Frankly, a well-run empire is an instrument of progress. The Roman empire spread aquaducts and the principles of good sanitation, good roads (that are still extant now, 2,000 years later!) and a common language (which would later be regarded as the language of science, art, religion and culture in general) wherever it went. Yes, it did trample on the rights of individuals (which we try not to do now, since we have the benefit of being able to refer to the great thinkers of the Enlightenment), but it also spread the benefits of Roman citizenship to far-flung places. It was a great unifying force in a dark time. And it fell apart when it ceased to be a Republic!
-- if we don't find our place in the world instead of on top of the world --
And where exactly is our place in the world?
Just another pathetic loser criticizing what the U.S. does, but offering no advice as to what we "should" be doing.
Since Mr. Berthold wishes to see people blown up we should start with his family. It sounds like Berthold and Jensen are traitors -- I bet they both would have enjoyed running Dachau.
Since these people hate the USA they should refund the MONEY that the US tax payers pay then through their salary and move to CUBA!
P.T. Barnum had it right "A sucker is born every minute" the SUCKERS are students who take courses from these enemies!
Time to eliminate Tenure. No-nothing quacks like Jensen couldnt hold a real job in a thousand years. Useless windbag.
...and yet we still have an obligation to defend to the death his right to say it.
"Robert Jensen is a journalism professor at the University of Texas at Austin"
With journalism professors like Jensen, is it any wonder that the mainstream media are controlled by people who hate America?
This fool pretty much reinforces that postulate.
Doesn't the Left EVER tire of being wrong?
Texas may be a red state, but Austin and Travis County are a big blue zit on an otherwise solidly red county-by-county map (except for some of the border counties)
bttt
If this were even close to true, thousands of cruise missiles and even ICBMs are available to finish the job. This war is way too important to lose, and with four years left for Bush, victory is achievable, even if delayed by political correctness.
What a maroon!
VietVet
I guess that is why the Germans and Japanese drove us from their occupied countries.
Why is this trash even posted on this site?
Why do pscum like this have jobs in our schools?
Have this girlyschmuck priss that it's a "good thing" that Saddam's Iraqi empire lost.
We'd have pieces of professor in a bag--for his thesis, he'd be in pieces.
Put this guy on the top of the list to donate a major organ as soon as any U.S. vet of any conflict needs one--
It's not the smarmy scumsucking fifth-column ivory tower soddomite who has given us our freedom--
It's real men.
"He's obviously not "with us." "
And since he's not with us, let's put the a$$h@le on a boat to the country of his choice. I would suggest Iran.
Could you imagine paying money to have this POS teach your kids?
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