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Attorneys Want Gun Maker Held Responsible In Florida Teacher Shooting
News4Jax ^ | December 7, 2004

Posted on 12/08/2004 2:14:16 PM PST by TERMINATTOR

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To: TChris

I have an idea for a safer gun!

Lets require all gun makers to make guns that don't fire!

Wait, bad guys could still use them to bang people over the head with...

I've got it! Nerf guns that don't shoot anything..

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Problem solved. Next?


21 posted on 12/08/2004 2:27:54 PM PST by Trampled by Lambs ("Making Al Gore regret inventing the internet, one post at a time")
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To: TERMINATTOR

Blame the gun mfgr, blame the teacher, blame the friend, blame the security, blame the school, blame everybody else...

But the criminal responsable.


22 posted on 12/08/2004 2:28:43 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom ("Do not pray for tasks equal to your powers; pray for powers equal to your tasks,"-President Bush)
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To: TChris
"The plaintiff argues that your client created a foreseeable zone of risk," Gross said to Valor attorney Tom Warner. "Then why isn't a duty created?"

Because the plaintiff's argument is false! Valor created no forseeable zone of risk by manufacturing and selling firearms wholesale in accordance with State and Federal laws. Were Valor to be held liable, the courts would be filled the next day with suits against Ford, GM, Toyota, DaimlerChrysler, etc., for creating risk by manufacturing and selling automobiles.

As usual, this is an attempt to get to deep pockets, as well as a politically motivated attempt to bankrupt and run out of business a firearms manufacturer.

23 posted on 12/08/2004 2:28:49 PM PST by Chemist_Geek ("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
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To: TChris
My home is a "forseeable zone of risk" for burglars or others who intend to do harm....


24 posted on 12/08/2004 2:31:11 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: TERMINATTOR
Sue the licenced firearms dealer who sold the gun illegally. Or sue the person who made the 'straw man' purchase if that is the case.

Better yet, sue the company that mined the ore that became the steel in the gun. The mining company should have known that their product would be used in making deadly firearms and had an obligation not to let it happen.

25 posted on 12/08/2004 2:31:49 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: TERMINATTOR
While they are at it, they should sue utility companies too. Do you have any idea how many people slip on cheap available water every year?

It's their responsibility to make it safer and less slippery.

A non-slip gel form would be a good start... but if it gets stuck up my nose the next time I choke while reading about a frivolous lawsuit case, I'll see them in court...

26 posted on 12/08/2004 2:33:00 PM PST by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: TChris

Zone of Risk, is right next to the twilight zone.


27 posted on 12/08/2004 2:33:05 PM PST by TERMINATTOR ("I believe in background checks at gun shows or anywhere" - GWB)
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To: TERMINATTOR

Oh sure!...don't blame the kid, blame the gun...nice try you scumbag!


28 posted on 12/08/2004 2:33:48 PM PST by Route101
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To: aomagrat



Title of article should read, "Attorneys Want Anyone but Shooter Held Responsible In Florida Teacher Shooting

The boy AND his parents too.


29 posted on 12/08/2004 2:34:38 PM PST by moog
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To: TERMINATTOR

sorry....scumbag Lawyers.......


30 posted on 12/08/2004 2:35:00 PM PST by Route101
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To: Freebird Forever
The attack on "Saturday night specials" is a blatant attempt by elitists to keep guns out of the hands of the poor.

Apparently, they feel that the right to keep and bear arms should be limited to only people who can afford $500+ dollar guns.

They Judge was right to void the verdict. The jury found the gun manufacturer to be 5% responsible? How is that different than it's not really their fault, but we feel the need to hold them accountable because they have deep pockets and the victims won't get anything otherwise?

Gun manufacturers sell a legal product through federally licensed dealers.
31 posted on 12/08/2004 2:35:06 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: TERMINATTOR

Okay, these people need to take a deep breath and repeat after me,

"Guns don't kill people, people kill people." A gun is just a tool...imo, if this widow wants justice, maybe she ought to take a closer look at this kids' parents. They carry more responsibilty for their child's behavior. The company carries ZERO.

Last time I checked, though, the government wasn't real successful at locking up parent's for their children's crimes.


32 posted on 12/08/2004 2:35:50 PM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: 45Auto
Just to be a boat-rocker, hasn't the .45 ACP been proven repeatedly to be inferior to other calibers for personal defense? (e.g. .40 S&W, 10mm, +P 9mm rounds) My personal preference is the .40 S&W @ 155 gr / 1000+ FPS

*Ducking from the hail of flames and insults to ensue*

33 posted on 12/08/2004 2:36:04 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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To: Chemist_Geek

My hope is that mucho money is spent by plaintiff's counsel, that they lose big time and have to pay the defendants' legal fees and costs. This one is much worse than the suit against Bushmaster.


34 posted on 12/08/2004 2:37:13 PM PST by armyavonlady
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To: exnavychick

I blame Benjamin Franklin and his electricity experiments for computer crimes committed using electricity...

...sure...works for me.


35 posted on 12/08/2004 2:38:10 PM PST by Keith (NOW, MORE THAN EVER....IT'S ABOUT THE JUDGES!)
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To: TChris

I won't flame you. I think any caliber larger than .22 (and if that's all you have at the moment of need, it is much better than nothing) when used at point-blank (or near point blank) range is going to do the job. I own several pistols chambered in .40 S and W and a Glock 17 in 9 mm. I just like the idea of a bigger hole in the perp, since I really don't want to have to shoot him more than once. Still, a single round of .40 in the upper torso is going to have a startling and surprising effect on any assorted vermin.


36 posted on 12/08/2004 2:41:44 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Keith

BWAHAHAHA!

I think, personally, that I am going to sue TV manufacturers for making tv's that ruined my eyesight. They get to pay (retroactively, of course) for all the eyeglasses I have worn since the age of 8 and pay for LASIK surgery.

*eyes rolling*

These folks (lawyers, I mean) are so desperate to make a buck they are willing to troll for plaintiffs amongst people more than happy to grind an axe with anything remotely having to do with their loved one's death. Those people need grief counseling, big bucks.


37 posted on 12/08/2004 2:43:08 PM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: Shellback Chuck
Why aren't they suing the bullet manufacturer? And then we have the issue of all these people killed by knives.

That greedy widow is disgusting. Reminds me of a Michigan reporter whose daughter took drugs off-campus, MAYBE crawled out a window in her dorm, and then sued the University even though he had no case and kept after it until the school settled. Never even bothered with the people who sold his daughter the drugs. And had the nerve the write a book about it and admit it all.

38 posted on 12/08/2004 2:43:41 PM PST by Dante3
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To: 45Auto
...a single round of .40 in the upper torso is going to have a startling and surprising effect on any assorted vermin.

You, my friend, have a gift for understatement. :)

39 posted on 12/08/2004 2:43:56 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

ROTFLMAO! "...when they pry it out of my cold dead... err uh. Never mind."

Too funny!


40 posted on 12/08/2004 2:46:10 PM PST by NonLinear ("If not instantaneous, then extrordinarily fast" - Galileo re. speed of light. circa 1600)
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