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Claim against Rumsfeld filed
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung ^ | December 3, 2004 | Kristina Merkner

Posted on 12/05/2004 4:24:42 PM PST by NCjim

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To: NCjim

You know? It's really too bad WWII in Europe ended before we had an opportunity to use the Little Boy and Fat Man on Germany.


41 posted on 12/05/2004 6:16:36 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Raffus
Thanks for the pix.

Check 'em out fer yerself - http://www.a-10.org/


42 posted on 12/05/2004 6:22:37 PM PST by Libloather (Piss off a few leftists - wish them a MERRY CHRISTMAS!)
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43 posted on 12/05/2004 6:31:49 PM PST by LuigiBasco (It's LONG past time to restart The Crusades. (What are we waiting for!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

In your quote, it was spelled "Rattner." The German story had it as "Ratter."


44 posted on 12/05/2004 6:32:07 PM PST by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: lancer
Right, I found both spellings. Both are lawyers with the CCR and working on this case and One is clearly id'ed as being an American in New York.( Michael Rattner)
45 posted on 12/05/2004 6:35:34 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (I am not NOT PC.. And Proud of it!: Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukkah!)
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To: LuigiBasco

"I'd love for our few surviving WWII POWs to weigh in on Germany's stellar "human rights" record."
How soon they forget!

This is not the Germans, this is the Americans using the German courts. The definition of war crimes and the tendency to investigate them in the German courts comes from exactly what? Right, their WW II record. Sheesh, this is not something to blame the Germans for.


46 posted on 12/05/2004 7:36:24 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: Paleo Conservative

"It's really too bad WWII in Europe ended before we had an opportunity to use the Little Boy and Fat Man on Germany."

This is a case of some Americans using the German courts. Why are you blaming Germany for that? Much less justifying nuclear annihilation of Germany because their Constitution allows American fruitcakes to file suit there?
(A Constitution written, BTW, under the tutelage of the US -- would Germany have been granted nationhood if WE did NOT approve of their Constitution? . . . hmmmmm?)


47 posted on 12/05/2004 7:41:29 PM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: 1rudeboy
"did you read the rest of the article?"

True may not have read it all but I did.

And not only that, I've read the German Law involved.
It's simply a law written by lawyers to enable lawyers to dip into international pockets in order to fill their own pockets!
The Germans have declared that their courts can be used as a venue for prosecuting international war crimes.
CCR or anyone else could file in Germany cases against Saddam, Osama, those responsible for the genocide in the Sudan, Chirac for French troops slaughtering innocents in the Ivory Coast, or those responsible for the travesty in Beslan.
Why don't they persue those cases? Simple! There ain't no money to made on those cases! But take an American lawyer going after an American, now we're talking large $$ I wouldn't be surprised to see the junior John Boy signing on to this one once his Senate seat is officially gone in January.

btw, some of the major backers of CCR include the likes of Louis Farrakan, Lyndon LaRouche, Michael Moore and Sean Penn. Need I say more?

48 posted on 12/06/2004 12:05:45 AM PST by theoldChief (Pacifists are the parasites of freedom)
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To: NCjim

"...the case could be tried in Germany based on a law passed in 2002. It stipulates that human rights violations and war crimes can be prosecuted in Germany regardless of where they took place and where the perpetrators are from."

WOW, YESTERDAY'S NEWS IS SOOO EXCITING !!!

No, really, the chances of this case going through is basically zero. German pacifists tried the same stunt about two years ago. They failed. The court more or less told them that the law in question can only be invoked in very few, very special cases - and the Iraq war is not one of those cases. I fully expect those American lawyers to deliver a somewhat better show, with more petitions and maybe even trying to have the case retried at an appeal's court. Yet the final result will be the same: failure.

And the fact that there is a "globalization" of jurisdiction is nothing particularly German. Many Europeans try to sue e.g. big companies in American courts, because we don't have the system of "punitive damages". In Europe damages are limited, depending on the type of harm suffered.

So what's all the fuss about?


49 posted on 06/27/2005 1:33:07 AM PDT by wolf78
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