Claim against Rumsfeld filed

Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung ^ | December 3, 2004 | Kristina Merkner

[RockinRight]

And we would win.

[Raffus]

30mm rounds - I have never saw this belt where I work. The 20mm is a sight to see. Thanks for the pix.

[Issaquahking]

Are the inmates running the insane asylum again???

I can't believe these idiots are out to kill the goose that's been laying eggs for them forever now.

May I suggest we have an F-16 Eagle bomb them, the ugly american's in cahoots with them, and any other idiots seeking this kind of action against America!!!

Okay, maybe that's a little over the top. I'm willing to deport, and yank, the citizenry of the clowns involved in this, and tell Germany to go pound sand, we're busy with life.

[Paperdoll]

>Time to start pulling ALL of our assets out of Germany and demand payment of the war reparations they never paid.<

AMEN and AMEN!!!!!

[SteveH]

This idea is based on a JAG episode of a few weeks back, I think... no points for originality ;-)

[Defiant]

Is there a law against interfering with the conduct of our armed forces in time of war by attacking our Defense Secretary in a foreign land? If not, we should make it a crime. You want to stop a war, win an election. While the war is in progress, shut the hell up. Our own laws prevent us from violating the law of war, and we will police our own.

[El Gato]

Has this group filed suit against Osama or even Yassar? If not, they can STFU and kiss my a$$...they can kiss it anyway for that matter.

[1rudeboy]

The fact that this is coming from the Germans makes this particularly obnoxious.

Ummm . . . did you read the rest of the article?

[El Gato]

I'd love for our few surviving WWII POWs to weigh in on Germany's stellar "human rights" record.

Actually the German military treated American and other western POWs pretty much "correctly". Not so their Russian and other eastern POWs though. Now the Japanese are another matter entirely. They were about as far from "correct" as is possible.

The Jews were not POWs. I'm sure there are still a few former inmates of the concentration camps, since some were children at the time, still around to sue their heinies though.

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

Michael Ratter, said the case could be tried in Germany based on a law passed in 2002. It stipulates that human rights violations and war crimes can be prosecuted in Germany regardless of where they took place and where the perpetrators are from.

Who pays the court costs? Germany, I hope. Let’s send all our nuts over to Germany and bankrupt the Krauts. What a stupid law. They deserve to get all the fruitcakes in the world.

[El Gato]

May I suggest we have an F-16 Eagle bomb them

The F-16 is the Falcon (aka Viper, aka "Electric Jet", but Viper is most popular). The F-15 is the Eagle Only the F-15E variant drops bombs. (in USAF service, other countries have similar variants, Israelis have F-15I, Saudis the F-15S, the Koreans the F-15K, all are essentially F-15Es, with some differences in avionics.)

[GratianGasparri]

I sugguest we file claims against the mullahs...

Are you kidding?

Why waste time with the Mullahs when the French are shooting up unarmed civilians from the Ivory Coast? Let's file claims against Chirac!

[El Gato]

Is there a law against interfering with the conduct of our armed forces in time of war by attacking our Defense Secretary in a foreign land? If not, we should make it a crime. You want to stop a war, win an election. While the war is in progress, shut the hell up

Well there is this. It's not a regular law, but it is the law.:

Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason,

Art. III, Section. 3, Constitution for the United States of America.

The Punishment that Congress has declared is death. (although lessor Punishments are possible as well)

[ozzymandus]

RATtner. Appropriate name.

[lancer]

The human rights organization, Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), led by its president Michael Ratter...

I like the way the Germans spelled his name...more appropriate, don'tcha think?

[MarkL]

And IIRC, he's the husband of Ellen RATner, who appears from time to time on Fox News.

Mark

[Diva Betsy Ross]

I think he is a lawyer from Nevada...MICHAEL RATTNER US LAWYER On that website ( link in my last post) it says they are part of the Progressive movement. Also I read that it is four Iraqis who are being supported by this CCR to file the suit in Germany. So it sounds like RATtner is a an American drumming up business by getting Iraqis to file a suit in German under a baloney German law that they can try "war crimes" Perhaps he thinks it will get better play in the States if he gets a favorable outcome in a foreign country?

[Diva Betsy Ross]

ooops so I forgot to ask the question is Michael Rattner the same person as Michael Ratter? I find both names in searches for this claim against Rumsfeld and one is clearly an American.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

That is what I am trying to figure out here.. thru my haze of sleep deprivation.. Did they misspell it?

[DustyMoment]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Come 'n get'im, krauts!!!

This ought to be fun to watch.





(Do I see a similar suit being filed against Der Faserland for . . . . . oh, say, World War II?)

Crikeys!!! The world is full of morons and Germany is at the head of the pack!!