Murder ... So What? Film Reveals Growing Callousness to Abortion

Agape Press ^ | November 22, 2004 | Ed Vitagliano

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A CATHOLIC VOTER’S GUIDE -
THE FIVE NON-NEGOTIABLE ISSUES
These five current issues concern actions that are intrinsically evil and must never be promoted by the law. Intrinsically evil actions are those which fundamentally conflict with the moral law and can never be deliberately performed under any circumstances. It is a serious sin to deliberately endorse or promote any of these actions, and no candidate who really wants to advance the common good will support any action contrary to the non-negotiable principles involved in these issues.

1. Abortion

The Church teaches that, regarding a law permitting abortions, it is "never licit to obey it, or to take part in a propaganda campaign in favor of such a law, or to vote for it" (EV 73). Abortion is the intentional and direct killing of an innocent human being, and therefore it is a form of homicide.

The unborn child is always an innocent party, and no law may permit the taking of his life. Even when a child is conceived through rape or incest, the fault is not the child's, who should not suffer death for others' sins.

EV John Paul II, Evangelium Vitae (The Gospel of Life)


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[NYer]

Pro-life ping!

[jwalburg]

Is it possible that pro-abortionists could finally admit that abortion is murder, but then collectively shrug their shoulders?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that seems to have been Kerry's stance on abortion in the last election. And Daschle's too. Life begins at conception, but it's okay to kill it for just about any reason.

[Gingersnap]

"...dismembering a baby and pulling it out in pieces ... is obviously horrific. But at the same time, it is easy to get caught up in that emotion."

Good Lord! If we can't get caught up in that emotion, when SHOULD we get caught up?

I can field dress a deer but I don't know if I could watch this film.

[Modernman]

Is it possible that pro-abortionists could finally admit that abortion is murder, but then collectively shrug their shoulders?

Yes. That seems to be the opinion of some people I know.

[silverleaf]

death of innocents ping

[mel]

What a nutty statement from a fruitcake. Kerry was good for a laugh, it was always fun to hear what stupid things he would say. I really am surprised he didn't come out with more zingers in the debates, but he had his "notes" didn't he.

[ravingnutter]

Any way we could get that documentary shown over here in the U.S.? Who would have the guts to broadcast it? Who in their right mind could endorse abortion after seeing such an atrocity?

[PeteePie]

After reading this I think we're living on the threshold of the Apocalypse and developing a callousness for murdering unseen victims is a warm up exercise for what lies in the near future.

[tjwmason]

I can field dress a deer but I don't know if I could watch this film.

I saw the original broadcast a few months ago here in Britain. If you do get the opportunity you should watch it, the subject is actually dealt with well - the abortion which you are shown is a very early one which makes the appearance far less grotesque. The conversation with the nurse afterwards is one of the most harrowing parts.

As I say, do watch it, if you get the chance, but be ready to spend a good few moments stunned afterwards.

[DTogo]

I can handle images of war, but watching an abortion procedure? I'd throw up and have nightmares.

[TChris]

Well, there you have it. The real, unpainted truth of the pro-abortion movement. "Yes, this life growing inside me is a living human being, a child, but I have the right to kill it at will."

Now can we start arresting these wicked, cruel animals and lock them away? Please?

Would anyone defend this attitude from the mother of triplets who have been born? "Oh, three is just too much of a hassle! Why, I'll have to shop at Costco! I think I'll have two of them put down. Whaddaya say, Mr. Obstetrician?" Heaven help us if there are growing numbers of mothers who think this way!

[Bigh4u2]

"Who in their right mind could endorse abortion after seeing such an atrocity?"

What makes you think Pro-abortionists are in their right mind?

You really have to be emotionally 'neutral' to allow abortions which would put you on the same level as Jeffrey Dalmer, or physcotic (sp?).

[CouncilofTrent]

I almost got sick reading it. I cant read this stuff anymore.

[katana]

"dismembering a baby and pulling it out in pieces ... is obviously horrific. But at the same time, it is easy to get caught up in that emotion."

There were probably Germans in 1944 who were saying something along the lines of "shooting, hanging, gassing, and burning millions of Jews, Gypsies, and other untermenschen is obviously horrific. But at the same time, it is too easy to get caught up in that emotion."

Either way you're still talking with heartless fascist bastards.

[Wallace T.]

This article is just more proof of the rising tide of barbarism in the Western democracies. As a kid, I used to watch the Marlon Perkins wildlife shows sponsored by Mutual of Omaha. Those films would show beasts of prey attacking other animals, but would stop short of the actual kill and subsequent meal. Not so with modern wildlife shows. Look at the disgraceful behavior of professional athletes and their fans. Are the likes of Ron Artest or "Stone Cold" Steve Austin any different from common thugs? Forty years ago, had the Feds dared to search women in their private areas in the lobbies of airports, there would have been an insurrection. The "F-bomb" flows like syrup from the lips of intelligent and attractive people. Even here at FR, a conservative forum, we see obscene pictures posted that Hugh Hefner would not have dared to use in, say, 1957.

As horrible as abortion is, it is only a symptom of the moral decadence that pervades American and Western European society. If conservatives fail to "conserve" and act like 1970s-era liberals, we will see euthanasia of both seniors and unwanted children under the age of two, homosexual marriage in all 50 states, and the elimination of the age of consent for sexual activities. Will the "conservatives" of 2025 then be fighting against polygamy, snuff films, human sacrifice, and the illegalization of Biblically based Christian churches and institutions?

God help us!

[MEGoody]

"What's truly horrifying is Black's apparent indifference to the gruesome reality of what her film presents all too clearly."

It's probably not indifference. . .I suspect it's actually barely contained joy.

[Noachian]

It mattered not to Richards. She waved off her boyfriend's request that they at least consider having the triplets, and Richards proceeded to have two unborn children aborted.

There is, in this statement, an unspoken truth. Namely that women who have abortions dispel the myth of the female as the most nurturing and caring parent of the two sexes.

The facts that only women can have an abortion, coupled with the 40+ million unborn who have been murdered in abortion mills since Roe, plus the lack of mass murder of the unborn before Roe was legalized, can attest to this.

It is a fact that men kill babies, but generally not their own of whom they are mostly protective. It seems then that men, on balance, are actually the most caring of the two sexes.

[NYer]

Who would have the guts to broadcast it?

Michael Moore???