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Limbaugh on NBA fight: "This is the hip-hop culture on parade"
Media Matters ^ | November 24, 2004 | A. S.

Posted on 11/27/2004 8:54:40 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh said that a November 19 brawl that broke out during a National Basketball Association (NBA) game was "hip-hop culture on parade." Limbaugh asserted that the fight -- which involved Indiana Pacers team members and Detroit Pistons team members and fans -- was "gang behavior on parade minus the guns," and that NBA uniforms are "now in gang colors. They are in gang styles." In making the comments, Limbaugh conceded that his remarks were likely to be "tagged as racist." Limbaugh also appeared to compare the brawl to the unrest in Fallujah, Iraq, suggesting that Detroit be renamed "New Fallujah, Michigan."

Limbaugh delivered his remarks on the same day that he touted his receipt of the Winston Churchill Statesmanship Award from the conservative Claremont Institute. Previous award recipients include former President Ronald Reagan, former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and National Review founder William F. Buckley Jr. San Diego Chargers owner Alex G. Spanos, who presented Limbaugh with the award, noted that it is given to "those who look up to the sky for the noble principles of justice, right and liberty."

From the November 22 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

    LIMBAUGH: There is something about this hip-hop culture business. I'm not going to mention the name because there's thousands of them, but I've been watching interviews with ex-NBA players and current NBA players. You know what the common theme that I'm hearing is? "Well, I'm not going to be dissed. I'm simply not going to be disrespected. Somebody disrespects me, they're going to pay for it." Meaning, "A fan disrespects me, that fan's going to pay for it," not just another player.

    And that comes right out of the hip-hop culture, and it's not just that. You look at NBA players and the uniforms, you don't have to go back very far. The uniforms have changed totally. They're now in gang colors. They are in gang styles.

    [...]

    But there's a reason this is happening. I'm not saying it's nothing to be concerned about. There's a reason. But I don't think anybody ought to be surprised, folks. I really don't think anybody ought to be surprised. This is the hip-hop culture on parade. This is gang behavior on parade minus the guns. That's the culture that the NBA has become. So if anybody will be honest with you about it in the NBA, and a very few will have the courage to, because saying what I just said is going to be tagged as racist, but I, my friends, am fearless when it comes to this because the truth will out, and that's what's happening here, and part and parcel of this gang culture, this hip-hop culture, is: "I'm not going to tolerate being dissed. I'm not going to be disrespected," and "disrespected" is now so broad that it includes somebody looking at you the wrong way.

    [...]

    CALLER: This is not a new thing with the Piston fans.

    LIMBAUGH: I know. That's why I say call it "New Fallujah, Michigan."



TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: hiphop; hiphopculture; nba; rush
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To: Alberta's Child
"If the NBA is 'hip-hop culture on parade,' then the dumbest bags of rocks on the planet are those middle-aged white slobs who pay to watch these guys play."

An even bigger pile of dumb rocks are the voters who get their information from the MSM!
41 posted on 11/27/2004 10:10:26 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I don't know any of these players, so I'll gladly take your word. Now, if your son makes one of them a 'role model' or a 'hero', does he watch the games? Do the thugs play also? Is the ad driven media pouring ideas into the childs head that he otherwise wouldn't get?


42 posted on 11/27/2004 10:11:21 AM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

As for me, I'll just stick with NASCAR.


43 posted on 11/27/2004 10:12:31 AM PST by stbdside
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To: Alberta's Child
"If the NBA is 'hip-hop culture on parade,' then the dumbest bags of rocks on the planet are those middle-aged white slobs who pay to watch these guys play."

HA!!
Amen to that.

...someone had to say it. ;^)

44 posted on 11/27/2004 10:12:48 AM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

NBA commissioner David Stern is the biggest phony in sports. He goes before the public with his pious condemnations of whatever recent trouble his players have caused, and we're supposed to buy his line. But for the past couple decades, he has embraced the promotion of the tattoed gang culture throughout his league, willingly choosing to walk the fine line and hoping things don't get out of hand. The standard of play has been allowed to slip significantly to where it's become a schoolyard slam dunk contest, and to where Europeans now kick our ass in international competition. A solid Bobby Knight-type coach with a group of undrafted but solid college players would win the NBA title. What passes for 'talent' in the NBA is comical. The league is a joke.


45 posted on 11/27/2004 10:14:17 AM PST by raptor29
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To: FreedomSurge
Think of the recent fiasco at the Olympics. Did the US team(?) even win a medal. Easily the best talent, easily a disappointing team. I think this relates to the hip-hop culture.

I think that you underrate the 'talent' of the European players. Why is it that we consider a big man that posesses an accurate jumper from the perimeter (think Larry Byrd) as remarkable here in the States. The Europeans Leagues are loaded with them.

The problem with the NBA is that the courts have destroyed the feeder system. The really good high school talent is already looking at the NBA, either directly or after getting a cup of coffee in college. They are missing 3 - 4 years of development.

46 posted on 11/27/2004 10:14:38 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: FRMAG
Yep. It's not that I (and you, too evidently) don't like sports, it's that we put them in perspective. I love Kentucky Wildcats basketball, Tampa Bay Buccaneers football, and I'm going to an Idaho Steelheads game tonight (though I didn't buy the tickets...the best way to see a game!). But if I watch a Bucs game , or visit the UK website to read up on this year's lineup, it's a diversion, plain and simple.

Far too many American Sheeple live for sports, or movies, or "reality" TV, or music, or whatever. They then give you a look of "what's a Ukraine" when you try to engage them in an intelligent conversation. The young people I work with were all aflutter over the Pacers-Pistons embarrassment, watching the replay on ESPN over and over, cheering every punch Artest landed. When they made the mistake of asking me what I thought about it, I told them it was disgraceful that some of the best paid people in the nation were such babies. That made their jaws drop. Then when I asked if any of them knew about reports that Border Patrol agents are catching more and more Middle Easterners crossing the border illegally, they gave me the "what's a border...is it near Taco Bell?" look. Sad, pathetic.

We've created a mess, and it's going to bite us in the a** in any number of ways in the not too distant future, I'm afraid.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

47 posted on 11/27/2004 10:16:40 AM PST by wku man (Breathe...Relax...Aim...Squeeze...Smile!)
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To: Tallguy

"I think you underrate the 'talent' of the European players."

Amen to that. Amazing that the ability to shoot the ball is not considered talent. I've often contended that NBA players are the most overrated athletes in the world. The range of skills they possess is incredibly limited. They can jump. Whoop dee doo. Hell, their major "skill" is being tall.


48 posted on 11/27/2004 10:19:15 AM PST by raptor29
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To: wku man

A Kentucky Wildcat fan! I'm one of those rarities, a Tennessee Vol fan who likes basketball a lot more than football. You guys are going to be tough when Tubby gets the new guys up to speed around mid-late Jan. As for us, Lofton, CJ and Scooter will shoot us to a few wins, but I'm begining to lose confidence in Buzz.


49 posted on 11/27/2004 10:23:36 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: robertpaulsen
"From now on, it's the NHL for me."

Wow...being as how those squabbling crybabies are on strike, this really isn't your year for sports, is it?

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

50 posted on 11/27/2004 10:24:16 AM PST by wku man (Breathe...Relax...Aim...Squeeze...Smile!)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Yep...two 7-footers, an experienced 6-10 guy...I think the 'Cats may have a decent inside game this year. Now, if we can only make it past round two of the tournament! I still can't believe we lost to UAB last year...sheesh.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

51 posted on 11/27/2004 10:27:01 AM PST by wku man (Breathe...Relax...Aim...Squeeze...Smile!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Peja and Vlade are exceptions
52 posted on 11/27/2004 10:32:04 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (If you right click on Keith Olberman's image, the word a$$hole should come up!)
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To: LS
No you are wrong: the uniforms have changed DRAMATICALLY from the short shorts of the 1970s to the baggy gansta look; and the ultra-bright colors and logos are different. Compare, for ex., the "rising sun" logo of the Phx. Suns in the 1970s with the "rising phoenix" logo today---it looks like something a biker or inmate would wear. Look at the black and purple of the Sacramento Kings, and the black socks that are so common.

You make good points, but I thought the baggy thing mostly came in with Michael Jordan (most overexposed athlete of all time), not to reflect gang wear. As far as the Sacramento Kings, they've traditionally been one of the "whiter" teams. To me this doesn't look a like a gang-banger, but maybe I'm just oblivious.


53 posted on 11/27/2004 10:35:13 AM PST by Randjuke
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To: narses

I agree that I wouldn't want my son to emulate the superficials and hype attached to the sport. But there's good guys among the players. Even during the brawl, the majority of the players were trying to keep the peace. Even Rasheed Wallace. I know you realize that they all aren't thugs. but I'm just sensitive because I've followed a lot of the players for years and they aren't generally thugs. I followed Allan Houston since he was at the University of Tennessee. A great guy and a good student-a math major no less. His partner in the Vol backcourt graduated from Harvard Law cum laude and is a successful lawyer and church deacon in Memphis. The great center David Robinson was a graduate of the US Naval Academy. If we can look beyond the hype and superficial image, we can see there's a lot of success stories playing basketball.


54 posted on 11/27/2004 10:36:12 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: wku man

I again agree with you. Most folks are melting their minds sans drugs. All of my boys grew up to be good men husbands and fathers and two of them followed me into the Army both being in career status currently and on active duty.

One poster brought up the olympics. I kinda think Jim Thorpe began to spin in his grave when "dream teams" became legal simply so the US could dominate some sports that we were getting beaten at like basketball and hockey.

One thing that turns me off from watching olympic coverage is not with the olympics themselves or its governing body but with the network "coverage".

Anybody ever notice that competition in the shooting sports still exists but is seldom shown or shown on a delay that puts them on screen at 0300?


55 posted on 11/27/2004 10:43:51 AM PST by FRMAG
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

If it wasn't for sports, most of them would be in Jail already. As it is more of them are going there every day. Drugs, Assault, wife beating, and even murder. Every time I say this I too am called a racist. Well, that doesn't make the facts anymore untrue.


56 posted on 11/27/2004 10:44:51 AM PST by fish hawk
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To: Randjuke
I like the baggy shorts. They are in line with the Bible's objective standard of nakedness.

Exodus 28:42 And thou shalt make them linen breeches to cover their nakedness; from the loins even unto the thighs they shall reach

57 posted on 11/27/2004 10:50:17 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: G.Mason

Gator fan?


58 posted on 11/27/2004 11:03:22 AM PST by DennisR (Look around - there are countless unmistakable hints that God exists)
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To: fish hawk

Racist? No but judgmental and ignorant yes absolutely. You have no idea about the lives of these players, and you judge them by the actions of a few.


59 posted on 11/27/2004 11:05:33 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
I like the baggy shorts. They are in line with the Bible's objective standard of nakedness.

Exodus 28:42 And thou shalt make them linen breeches to cover their nakedness; from the loins even unto the thighs they shall reach

Michael Jordan was inspired by Exodus! Strange but true?

60 posted on 11/27/2004 11:07:20 AM PST by Randjuke
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