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Has Genghis' Tomb Been Found?
China.Org ^ | 11-26-2004 | Shao Da

Posted on 11/26/2004 12:11:59 PM PST by blam

Has Genghis' Tomb Been Found?

After four years' work, a joint team of Japanese and Mongolian archaeologists announced on October 4 that they had found what they believe to be the true mausoleum of Genghis Khan (1162-1227).

The ruins, dated to between the 13th and 15th century, were found at Avraga, around 250 kilometers east of Ulan Bator, the capital of the People's Republic of Mongolia. Team members said that they expect the discovery to provide clues to the whereabouts of the khan's actual burial site, which they believe may be within 12 kilometers of the mausoleum.

There is a preexisting mausoleum in China's Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, rebuilt by the government in 1954. Most historians agree that Genghis Khan died in 1227 when going out to battle in the Liupan Mountains in today's Ningxia Hui Autonomous Region, but they do not agree on where he was buried.

The Chinese mausoleum is located on the vast Ordos Plateau, 30 kilometers south of Ejin Horo Banner. It comprises four palaces covering an area of over 50,000 square meters. Two huge flagpoles decorated with nine galloping steeds stand aloft before the 26-meter-high main palace, symbolizing the Mongol's prosperity and happiness. There is a tomb here, but it only contains the khan's personal effects and not his actual remains.

Liu Zhaohe, director of the Cultural Relics Bureau in Inner Mongolia, insists that what the Japanese-Mongolian team found are palace ruins, and according to nomadic people's funeral customs, the khan would not be buried either within or near his palaces.

Liu said that in 2001 a US-Mongolian expedition also announced it had discovered the khan's burial place on a hillside northeast of Ulan Bator.

He added that Genghis Khan left testament for his burial place to be kept secret, and all the emperors of the Yuan Dynasty (1279-1368) followed suit. So far not a single Yuan Dynasty emperor's tomb has ever been found.

Because of the secrecy, the subject has always been the cause of controversy and speculation; that his warriors looted large amounts of treasure while sweeping across Eurasia adds another incentive to discover its location.

Legend says that the surface of his tomb was trodden smooth by tens of thousands of horses before being planted with trees. The 800 soldiers and over 1,000 laborers who built the grave are said to have been killed to prevent anyone passing on its whereabouts.

Over the past decades teams from many countries, including Hungary, Poland, the United States, Japan, Italy, Germany, France, Canada, Russia, Turkey and South Korea, have invested heavily in seeking it.

Qi Zhongyi, a 34th generation descendant of Genghis Khan, is adamant that the mausoleum in China is the sacred place as far as Mongols are concerned, and disapproves of attempts to find his final resting place.

Displaying a portrait of the khan's family that was acquired when his coffin was opened during a grand memorial ceremony in 1954, Qi said: "For generations Genghis Khan's exact burial place has remained a mystery. We should not go against our ancestor's behests to try to unveil it."

According to Shamanist beliefs, Mongolian people worshiped the soul of the deceased, not their remains, said Qi. Historical records say the white camel hair, to which the khan's soul was believed to adhere, was buried in the mausoleum on the Ordos Plateau.

Memorial ceremony is held in the mausoleum four times each year. "For hundreds of years, people have come here to pay their respects. So attempts to find his tomb is both unnecessary and meaningless," Qi said.

Mongolian President Nachagyn Bagabandy once said while visiting China that it's not important where Genghis Khan was buried and that we should respect his wish to keep his burial site a secret.

(China.org.cn by Shao Da, November 26, 2004)


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1 posted on 11/26/2004 12:11:59 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 11/26/2004 12:12:50 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Oh, no! Not Jenjis Khan....


3 posted on 11/26/2004 12:13:39 PM PST by brewcrew
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To: blam
Great! No doubt kerry will want to zip over in his private jet to lay a wreath!!
4 posted on 11/26/2004 12:13:40 PM PST by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: blam
Jenga!

5 posted on 11/26/2004 12:15:55 PM PST by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: blam

So who's going to get there first - Kerry with his wreath, or Geraldo to take a peek inside...


6 posted on 11/26/2004 12:16:17 PM PST by meyer (Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
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To: blam

I thought it was the statue of Jubilation T. Cornpone.


7 posted on 11/26/2004 12:16:52 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: blam
The 800 soldiers and over 1,000 laborers who built the grave are said to have been killed to prevent anyone passing on its whereabouts.

Hiring replacements may have been a problem.

8 posted on 11/26/2004 12:18:13 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: blam

9 posted on 11/26/2004 12:19:20 PM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? Freepmail Visualops or myself for details)
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To: Dog Gone

You really want to read the fine print before signing up for that job.

and before anyone else posts this:

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNN!!!!!


10 posted on 11/26/2004 12:20:11 PM PST by escapefromboston (manny ortez: MVP)
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To: blam

Inner Mongolia Bump!


11 posted on 11/26/2004 12:20:47 PM PST by JennysCool (A plan is not a litany of complaints)
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To: sheik yerbouty

12 posted on 11/26/2004 12:21:38 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: blam

Interesting article. I didn't know they had any idea where Khan was buried.


13 posted on 11/26/2004 12:22:51 PM PST by Johnnyboy2000 (Give it all up tommorrow to live in world without crime, and go back tothe circuit riding motocross)
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To: blam

I didn't know Genghis' Tomb was missing. Gotta buy some fresh milk.


14 posted on 11/26/2004 12:24:10 PM PST by hflynn
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To: blam

Now that they've finally found it, let's hope no one razes the masoleum in a fashion reminiscent of, well, Jengis [sic] Khan.


15 posted on 11/26/2004 12:25:05 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (The 80s belonged to the Gipper, the Aughts belong to Dubya!)
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To: escapefromboston

I... LAUGH at the... SUPERIOR INTELLECT!


17 posted on 11/26/2004 12:38:39 PM PST by McCormick Reaper
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To: Cyclopean Squid
HaHaHa!
Man I'm glad he won't be on our TV's for the next 4 years...
18 posted on 11/26/2004 12:41:58 PM PST by Pointblank
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To: blam

I'm more interested in 'The Great Schmoe' than Jenjis.


19 posted on 11/26/2004 12:50:04 PM PST by GaltMeister (The only time a Democrat should only be allowed in the White House is to visit the President.)
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To: brewcrew

The tomb was found about 60 years ago. Where do you think Kerry came from?


20 posted on 11/26/2004 12:55:12 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Austin Willard Wright

That sword is now outlawed in Scotland.


21 posted on 11/26/2004 12:56:54 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: blam
>Has Genghis' Tomb Been Found?

Okay, this isn't
about Genghis, it's about
Attila, and it's

really horrible,
but it's still great weekend fun
because the sexy

Australian girl
Simmone Jade Mackinnon * plays
two parts, both of them

with outrageously
out of place hair and accents.
It's pure TV fun!

------------------------------------------

*

22 posted on 11/26/2004 1:00:53 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: McCormick Reaper

As you left me, as you left her ... Buried alive ... buried alive


23 posted on 11/26/2004 1:02:51 PM PST by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing when I play hockey)
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To: Cobra64
That sword is now outlawed in Scotland.

Has anyone told Arlen Specter?

24 posted on 11/26/2004 1:04:07 PM PST by Wolfstar (Counting down the days to when the new White House puppy arrives.)
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To: blam

The Mausoleum of Genghis Khan

A 10 Minutes' Trip to China.. good photos


25 posted on 11/26/2004 1:09:00 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Austin Willard Wright

Wasn't he played by the famous actor Genghis Cohen?


26 posted on 11/26/2004 1:10:45 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: blam
The 800 soldiers and over 1,000 laborers who built the grave are said to have been killed to prevent anyone passing on its whereabouts.

Every time I read this statement or one like it, I can't help wondering who killed them? And did they know the whereabouts of the burial place? Or were the to-be-killed exported to a spot 1000 miles away?
How does that work?

27 posted on 11/26/2004 1:12:32 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: Betis70

Ha, ha, ha, ha, burried a-l-i-i-i-v-e.

(Bee-Gees background score, deleted from film at final cut.)


28 posted on 11/26/2004 1:32:27 PM PST by McCormick Reaper
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To: McCormick Reaper

I... LAUGH at the... SUPERIOR INTELLECT!
=====
Can I supply some INTERIOR SUPERLECT ??? ;-))


29 posted on 11/26/2004 1:32:53 PM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: blam

Apparently searchers were diverted from the path they were on to finding the tomb 30 years ago when a witness testifying before the Senate pretentiously mispronounced the name as Jenjis Khan, convincing them they'd been barking up the wrong tree.


30 posted on 11/26/2004 1:37:08 PM PST by No Longer Free State
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Khaan!

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

31 posted on 11/26/2004 1:39:23 PM PST by mhking
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To: blam

Jenjis Khan BUMP


32 posted on 11/26/2004 1:56:42 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: blam
I thought he was buried on old Route 66, near the Deer Farm.
33 posted on 11/26/2004 2:08:11 PM PST by Mike Darancette (RICE '08)
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To: evets
"...remiscent of Jhengis Khan..."
34 posted on 11/26/2004 2:09:49 PM PST by VOA
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To: blam

I visited the tomb of "Sue" in Jinzhou China last month. The body and artifacts were very well preserved. The silk robe and blanket still were almost completely intact, as were a number of wooden items. The tomb was estimated to be 2100 years old.


35 posted on 11/26/2004 2:14:00 PM PST by Ivan
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To: Ivan
The body and artifacts were very well preserved. The silk robe and blanket still were almost completely intact, as were a number of wooden items. The tomb was estimated to be 2100 years old.

Wow, I'm impressed. You met John Lurch Kerry.

36 posted on 11/26/2004 2:30:18 PM PST by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach; SunkenCiv; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; 4ConservativeJustices; ...
Sounds like they waste a lot of time and money over in Asia. Thanks blam.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest
-- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

37 posted on 11/26/2004 2:36:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: blam
So three days ago a "Russian Stonehenge" was uncovered, yesterday ATLANTIS was found, and today the Tomb of Ghengis Khan??? I think archaeologists are starting to fudge their discoveries, kinda like when a "New Dinosaur" was discovered every other day ten years ago and a "New Galaxy" here and there a few years back. Show me something more than a finger bone or a scrap of cement before such declarations are made.
38 posted on 11/26/2004 2:41:58 PM PST by Shqipo (Can't someone clone David Lean so I could go see a decent freaking movie?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow...those pictures were incredible!


39 posted on 11/26/2004 2:43:40 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: Cobra64

No relation to John Kerry. Mr. Sue looked much better, although 2100 years of inbreeding could account for some genetic deterioration.


40 posted on 11/26/2004 2:47:01 PM PST by Ivan
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To: blam

This thread is going to be seared - SEARED - into my memory.


41 posted on 11/26/2004 3:21:03 PM PST by GaltMeister (The only time a Democrat should be allowed in the White House is to visit the President.)
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To: escapefromboston
The UberPage of the First Church of Shatnerology

Second National Church of Shatnerology

42 posted on 11/26/2004 4:34:29 PM PST by solitas
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To: solitas

Everyone knows about Genghis Khan, I want to know about Gengis Khan't!


43 posted on 11/26/2004 5:55:33 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: bullseye876

"Isn't Genghis an ancestor of Kerry's? What was Kerry's father or father's eastern euro surname? Kohn? Sounds a lot like Khan to me."

Actually it's from Cohen, as in Cohenim, the high priests of the Hebrew temple, who are descended from Aaron.


44 posted on 11/26/2004 6:56:42 PM PST by adam_az (Nov. 3, 2004: Our Republic is Secure!)
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To: theFIRMbss

And don't forget that for the women, it has Gerard Butler in a short skirt and bare chest!

Yum!


45 posted on 11/27/2004 6:22:27 AM PST by najida (Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.)
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To: blam

So, once one reads the first two paragraphs, it becomes obvious that they use Democratic double speak. The answer is NO, they have not found his burial site. They do know they are on the right continent.


46 posted on 11/27/2004 6:26:37 AM PST by -=Wing_0_Walker=-
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To: blam
According to Shamanist beliefs, Mongolian people worshiped the soul of the deceased, not their remains, said Qi. Historical records say the white camel hair, to which the khan's soul was believed to adhere, was buried in the mausoleum on the Ordos Plateau.

All the more reason to find the tomb. Genghis was not a very nice person. We could dye the camel hair, perm it, hot roll it, and then beat the hell out of it.:)

47 posted on 11/27/2004 7:04:16 AM PST by xJones
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To: blam; mhking
It's too bad that one of his descendents couldn't have been in on the discovery. Then they could have said Khan found it!
48 posted on 11/27/2004 9:52:44 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: Shqipo
"...kinda like when a "New Dinosaur" was discovered every other day ten years ago and a "New Galaxy" here and there a few years back. Show me something more than a finger bone or a scrap of cement before such declarations are made."

Funny, I read an article two days ago that said 73% of the disosaur species are yet to be discovered.

49 posted on 11/27/2004 11:28:56 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
The 800 soldiers and over 1,000 laborers who built the grave are said to have been killed to prevent anyone passing on its whereabouts.

I'll bet that was a surprise. The first temporary employment contract.

50 posted on 11/27/2004 11:35:31 AM PST by Cold Heat (What are fears but voices awry?Whispering harm where harm is not and deluding the unwary. Wordsworth)
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