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Doctors Group Fights Prescription Reporting Bill
Newsmax.com ^ | 11/22/2004 | Dave Eberhart

Posted on 11/22/2004 11:55:48 AM PST by Born Conservative

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To: Prime Choice
"When insurance companies discover that you're taking stuff like high blood pressure medication, insulin, or have received chemotherapy, good luck ever getting a new policy. Some insurers will even rescind homeowner's policies and credit agencies will reduce your credit rating if they think your health has taken a turn for the terminal."

Why should insurance companies be forced to insure someone with serious medical liabilities?

21 posted on 11/22/2004 12:21:51 PM PST by Truthsayer20
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To: Born Conservative

I don't know that I'd object to this, if it was restricted to addictive, serious abuse-prone drugs. It's getting hard for patients who really do need potent painkillers to get them, because doctors are afraid of getting caught up in a situation where an abuser is getting scripts from a bunch of different doctors. If doctors had this system to rely on, they might be a lot quicker to write scripts for patients who show signs of really needing them. The access should be at the pharmacist level, so that pharmacists can alert doctors about patients who already recently filled a bunch of similar scripts from other doctors, and get the new script cancelled.


22 posted on 11/22/2004 12:22:32 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Truthsayer20
Why should insurance companies be forced to insure someone with serious medical liabilities?

Maybe insurance companies should change their names to "Premium Collection Company" instead of "Insurance Company".

23 posted on 11/22/2004 12:26:39 PM PST by leadpencil1 (GW+4 HA HA HA)
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To: Truthsayer20
Why should insurance companies be forced to insure someone with serious medical liabilities?

Maybe you'll get an opportunity to mull that over when you or someone you love is diagnosed with cancer, diabetes or another chronic illness. Up until this moment, I never would have wished what I've been through on another soul. But in your case, I'll make an exception.

If insurance companies can't handle demand, then they ought to get out of the business.

25 posted on 11/22/2004 12:29:44 PM PST by Prime Choice (STFU ACLU.)
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To: Born Conservative
Well lets see! If I take the same approach as the "if you don't like being searched, don't fly" crowd, I would say, I don't take these drugs so this law would be OK with me. NOT

Anyone in the House or Senate that supports this should be recalled by the stupid people who elected them.

26 posted on 11/22/2004 12:36:07 PM PST by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: KarlInOhio

No, it's not. C'mon.


27 posted on 11/22/2004 12:40:37 PM PST by jammer
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To: Prime Choice

So, do you think health care is a right?


28 posted on 11/22/2004 12:40:53 PM PST by Truthsayer20
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To: Truthsayer20
So, do you think health care is a right?

A right? Sure. An entitlement? Nope.

There's a difference. Learn to understand what it is.

29 posted on 11/22/2004 12:46:15 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: Born Conservative

This is Big Brother raised to an exponential power. We already have a big euthanasia movement in this country (with "assisted suicide" in several Western states) simply because doctors are not allowed to *do their job* and prescribe adequate levels of pain relief, all because of the bogus "War on Drugs." I suppose it's better for sick people to kill themselves. It's also obviously better to have government records of *private* medical records.


30 posted on 11/22/2004 12:55:40 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: jammer
No, it's not. C'mon.

Well one website I saw said it was. It's on the internet, it must be true.

I was looking up other websites to back up my point and I can't find anything with looks official. I did find one which listed prozac but didn't have it listed as a schedule IV, but did have other drugs explicitly listed as schedule IV.

Looks like I probably was wrong.

31 posted on 11/22/2004 1:13:36 PM PST by KarlInOhio (In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
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To: jammer

See my post 13, which the House bill includes any drug (B) identified by the State involved as a drug subject to the monitoring program of the State under this section.

They could include anything.

I think GA already does some type of controlled substance monitoring.

Doctors are already nervous about prescribing controlled meds, this isn't going to help. It will only make things worse.


32 posted on 11/22/2004 1:19:15 PM PST by eyespysomething ("Life has a flavor the protected will never know...." Major Jason Muldoon)
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To: Truthsayer20

What happens to the child that develops cancer at a young age and the parents do not have the means to afford treatment ?


33 posted on 11/22/2004 1:21:59 PM PST by Independentamerican (Independent Junior at the University of MD)
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To: leadpencil1

Maybe insurance companies should change their names to "Premium Collection Company" instead of "Insurance Company

Excellent Point. I wonder how many of you have recieved a rebate from your insurance company after 20 years of perfect driving records ?


34 posted on 11/22/2004 1:23:35 PM PST by Independentamerican (Independent Junior at the University of MD)
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To: Born Conservative
I have to look at this from the medical perspective as I am a nurse who deals with "seekers" on a regular basis. I have been in the medical profession for 27 years and have never met a physician who wouldn't prescribe pain medications for someone who truly needed it. I have however seen many patients attempt to sue a physician for being refused treatment (pain medication}. The only thing that kept them from being sued, was a tool providing information regarding the patients medication habits. This information in only available to the physician through a service provided by the State. In this case the State of Nevada. HIPPA (Health Information Privacy and Portability Act) provides that this information is confidential medical records and cannot being given to the authorities. Unnecessary lawsuites cause more physicians to leave practice than anything else in the United States.
35 posted on 11/22/2004 1:25:51 PM PST by catsbattey
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"What happens to the child that develops cancer at a young age and the parents do not have the means to afford treatment ?"

Have you heard of Medicaid?

36 posted on 11/22/2004 1:30:34 PM PST by Truthsayer20
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To: eyespysomething

Well, sure. The situation is deplorable, I agree. I think the states have a legitimate right to do it--not the Feds, except for Holmes' whorehouse reasoning on the Commerce Clause--but I disagree with it. However, I live in neither Michigan, Texas, nor Georgia (although I have responsibility for Pharmacies in 2 of those states), and that is their right.


37 posted on 11/22/2004 1:49:36 PM PST by jammer
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To: KarlInOhio

No problem. I shouldn't have been so short in my reply to you. I apologize.


38 posted on 11/22/2004 1:51:53 PM PST by jammer
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To: Truthsayer20
Why should insurance companies be forced to insure someone with serious medical liabilities?

A person could reply, "Why should we have insurance companies when all they do is inflate medical prices by a hundred times and I am denied converage and have to pay out of pocket for the insanely inflated medical prices that YOU support."

39 posted on 11/22/2004 1:57:25 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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How does medicade work ? Is it for people that make under a certain amount of money a year ? My point is even if you your household income is over 150k a year without insurance and a very sick child how would you survive. Yes you could sell everything you own and beg from the community but then we would not need health insurance. I just do not like the government having this information in another one of their databases.


40 posted on 11/22/2004 1:57:49 PM PST by Independentamerican (Independent Junior at the University of MD)
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