Posted on 11/21/2004 4:05:38 PM PST by El Conservador
Already well underway in this household, and untold others. I heartily recommend the banishment of all tattooed gangsta morons from one's life ... it feels good.
Are you sure he punched the guy who threw the beer.Looked like he just picked the biggest loud mouth and attacked.If you look at the video while he was laying on the scorers table you can see the guy he attacked.His hands are empty.He also swung at the fat guy on the floor before the guy gave any indication of attacking him.Then his buddy sucker punched the fat guy.This has nothing to do with which team anyone supports, but I have to wonder about the ethics of anyone who tries to make excuses for these thugs.
Professional athletes (figure skating is an exception)
are generally speaking above the law, especially regarding crimes involving violence or sex.
The police and prosecuting attorneys who allow this are a disgrace to their profession and our nation whose laws they are sworn to uphold (but I bet they get plenty of comps to athletic events, signed balls etc.)
This pattern frequently starts in high school.
Kudos to OSU for its recent going against the grain on the athlete crime issue.
"Shoving another player is not criminal, smacking a fan in the mouth with your fist is a criminal act. No comparison."
Even worse if it's the wrong person one is assaulting!
Give me a break. Not all NBA players are like Allen Iverson. There are great players and a lot of all around good guys in the NBA. Just because there are some idiots in the NBA doesn't mean that all are bad. You don't call the entire Congress a bunch of idiots just because of Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi.
What would you recommend for the fan that tossed the drink?
I don't know, but as a longtime Lakers' fan, I have heard P.A. announcer Lawrence Tanter repeatedly give a pre-game address similar to the following:
"Ladies and gentlemen, in the spirit of good sportsmanship, and as a courtesy to players and spectators, the NBA requests that you please refrain from throwing any objects, either on the court, or in the stands. Such actions can cause serious injury; violators will be ejected and subject to criminal arrest.
"Also, the Forum (Staples Center) would like to remind you that any fan who goes on to the court, or otherwise disrupts play in any manner, will be ejected, and subject to criminal arrest."
Now, I don't exactly know what part of all that they don't get....
On an extremely sarcastic note (saving me the /sarcasm tag at the end), it's Bush's fault, Tom Daschle is deeply saddened, I find the timing suspicious, and there is no terrorist threat.
Yeah, running up into the stands and attacking the wrong guy is legitimate self-defense.
My brother had an interesting take on all of this. Basically, Indiana's team is destroyed for the rest of the season. They are out of contention. Being that Detroit and Indiana were the top two teams, the Detroit fans, security, etc. actually succeeded in destroying the opposition. What kind of message does that sent to other nutty fans from other cities who might want to provoke opposition players. The guy who got the least amount of punishment is the guy who started it all. I don't really care, not an NBA fan, but I thought might be interesting to those of you who do.
But Artest didn't fight Wallace back.
Right. What is the reason for Wallace's 7 game suspension though? He shouldn't be responsible for the actions of O'Neil- Artest- and jackson...
I think the NBA should have kicked Jackson out for the season too.
I don't know what Artesat makes a year-- but due to his uncontrollable manner- it will cost him 10 Million in lost salary--- O'Niel probbaly makes 15 mil a year-- so him jacking that guy in the face will cost him close to 5 Million--
Idiots!
As to the rest of it, were there any monetary fines in addition to the suspensions? If not, there should be.
And the fans who throw sh*t should face some sort of civil fine, penalty, jail time, etc. You can't yell "fire" in a crowed theater and you damn well shouldn't be allowed to throw whatever onto the court, field or anywhere else.
Not even close champ.
A 6'-7", 250# halfwit gets hit with a cupful of ice and goes off on everybody in sight.
Because he knew he'd get his a$$ kicked. So instead he took out his rage by jumping some smaller fans. Now he's scored some major points with his gangsta rap customers.
Arrest and prosecution.
Denial of access to future games.
Full rights of prosecution of whoever may have assaulted him.
I guess the hip hop culture of the NBA blew up in a lot of faces. It's about time people wised up to the thuggery that passes for basketball these days.
The only people more disgusting, idiotic, and criminal than the players were the fans.
Ben Wallace threw the towel that incited the melee. If he does not throw the towel, the fan never throws the beer. More importantly, if he never unjustly retaliates for a hard foul, none of this never occurs.
ROFL!
Thug #1 you mean?
Ben Wallace is a tiny step up from the criminals that pass for Pistons fans.
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