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MIAMI-DADE SCHOOLS-CREW TO COPS: DON'T TASER KIDS
Miami Herald ^ | Nov. 20, 2004 | Susannah A. Nesmith

Posted on 11/20/2004 7:44:53 AM PST by JesseHousman

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To: JesseHousman
Miami-Dade Schools Superintendent Rudy Crew asked the police department never again to use a stun gun on an elementary student on school grounds.

The most amazing part of this article is that anyone has to tell a cop the obvious.

21 posted on 11/20/2004 8:25:09 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
"or you can just sit there and WAIT."

Yeah, you're right, they could have waited.

The article did say the the child had cut himself and was bleeding. So, sooner or later, he would lose enough blood to pass out! Problem solved!

22 posted on 11/20/2004 8:25:56 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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''The Pharr student was agitated and injured,'' Crew wrote in his letter to Miami-Dade Police Director Bobby Parker. ``However, police officers have dealt with other children in this condition without resorting to a Taser.''

Bet the kid is tramatized out of ever doing that again. Is that really a bad thing?

23 posted on 11/20/2004 8:27:29 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: E.Allen
"the lawyers would be all over you for NOT using them"

Exactly. The same holds true for the drunken 12-year-old girl if she would have run into traffic and been killed.

Bunch of condescending, Monday-morning quarterbacks who think they have all the answers.

24 posted on 11/20/2004 8:29:55 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: lepton
Of course it isn't.

When police are called in to stop a dangerous situztion, what do school authorities and parents think is going to happen?

About 15 years ago, in a town we once lived, a "single" mother was distraught because her son was acting crazy (on dope), waving a knife and threatening everyone at home.

The mother called the police.

By the time the police had entered the house, the delinquent had locked himself in his room with his knife and whatever else he had.

The police ordered him to open the door several times, then got the mother's permission to force the door open.

When they entered the room the kid advanced on them with his knife and they shot him dead.

Many parents, from that point on, when confronted with an unruly child would say "Do you want me to call the police?"

25 posted on 11/20/2004 8:32:09 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: robertpaulsen

In another article I read it stated, from my reading, that there were 2 security guards as well as 2 Miami police officers. That's 4 trained adults in an enclosed area. Between them, they should have been able to subdue a 6 year old, no taser needed. I agree that waiting might have been an option. The 12 year old running into traffic may have been a different story.


26 posted on 11/20/2004 8:32:46 AM PST by rightthinkingwoman
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To: Lazamataz
"The most amazing part of this article is that anyone has to tell a cop the obvious."

The school district has now removed the liability of not using the Taser, so I don't think the cops have a problem with the directive.

Let the school be sued instead.

27 posted on 11/20/2004 8:36:21 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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What I find interesting in all of this is the fact that everyone is obsessing about whether or not the police should have used a Taser on the child. My question is: why was the child so disturbed in the first place? I guess they'd rather not ask what the real question is. They put the focus on the behavior of the police, when the child's behavior, imo, warrants much more concern. They'll probably support his useless mother when she decides to sue the police, when they ought to be sending CPS to investigate this child's home environment.


28 posted on 11/20/2004 8:40:35 AM PST by exnavychick
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You got it right, Chick.


29 posted on 11/20/2004 8:41:48 AM PST by JesseHousman
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"Between them, they should have been able to subdue a 6 year old

With a piece of glass in his hand? He was agitated. He was cut and bleeding.

Sorry. I disagree. I'll go with the assessment of the people who were actually there. "Should they have decided to use their bare hands, the child could have received additional injuries in the struggle or the officers could have been injured."

As you say, there were four trained adults in the room. It was their decision, based on their combined years of experience, to use the Taser.

But you know better?

30 posted on 11/20/2004 8:45:42 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: JesseHousman

Too bad the journalists can't get it right. Not that that is a big surprise, though, huh?


31 posted on 11/20/2004 8:54:47 AM PST by exnavychick
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Just another symptom of out of control public schools.

These days we have schools with armed policemen, bars on windows, metal detectors, drug sniffing dogs, holding students in raids at gunpoint, taser on 6 year olds!

Kids that bring weapons to do deadly harm, kids pushing drugs, zero tolerance nonsense, leftists / socialists indoctrination, perverse sex education at way to early age, uncaring parents who use school as day care.

What a mess, unbelievable!

Pull your kids out of public school. You don't have to put up with this.

32 posted on 11/20/2004 9:03:33 AM PST by Bob Mc
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BS if an adult cannot disarm a six year old, than that person does not deserve to be called an adult. Mothers and parents all thr time have to control children that are young and out of control and might have a dangeropuse object. Hell we are larger and stronger and faster and wiser. If an adult cannot handle that situation than that police officer should retire.

Thank you.

33 posted on 11/20/2004 9:18:39 AM PST by Marie (~shhhhh...~ The liberals are sleeping....)
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To: Bob Mc

I'd like to opt out of being taxed to pay for that crap too!


34 posted on 11/20/2004 9:22:22 AM PST by JesseHousman
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To: JesseHousman

If it takes a taser...use it...no one knows what the kid has taken.....


35 posted on 11/20/2004 9:47:51 AM PST by Route101
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The "she was going to run into traffic" defense is weak.

This is indefensible, the taser is a weapon of last resort.


36 posted on 11/20/2004 10:15:34 AM PST by rwilson99 (I am a South Park Republican)
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I was not there but have handle many children, some in rages as an adult. I do not resort to TASER I can not, I am not a police person armed with such.

I doubt that you were there either. But if our society cannot handle 6 year children with a piece of glass in their hands, we should not be handle our own lives either.


37 posted on 11/20/2004 10:47:37 AM PST by Rhiannon
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Four adult aginst one 6 year old child and you have to use a taser! Adults don't deserve to be called adults. One adult could have subdue the child by grabbing his arms,let alone 4 adults. OVERKILL!!!


38 posted on 11/20/2004 10:52:05 AM PST by Rhiannon
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To: Bob Mc

A friend of mine and her daughter moved to Miami and looked for a public school for her. They walked into the school in her attendance zone, went through the metal detectors, saw some school cops in the hallway harassing some kid, turned right around and walked out the door. The daughter made a comment about the school looking like a jail on her way out.

They found a private school that charges $20,000 a year. I guess desperate parents are more than willing to pay $20,000 a year and the private schools know it.


39 posted on 11/20/2004 11:11:56 AM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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Parents made the right choice. If you treat kids as criminals, guess what? They will live up to your expectations.


40 posted on 11/20/2004 12:33:42 PM PST by Rhiannon
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