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Anti-Specter Forces Aren't Calling It Quits
Human Events Online ^ | Novemeber 19, 2004 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 11/19/2004 1:14:50 PM PST by hinterlander

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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I agree. Specter has spent years making a "name" for himself as a "maverick", an "independent", and "one unafraid to buck the leadership" based on his "principled stands"...

[side note: that's MSM-ese for "obstructionist in a liberal direction"... had this been an identical obstruction in a conservative direction, the common MSM terms would have been something more like "stubborn, inflexible, right-wing, elitist, lone-wolf, etc."]

Given that he would be even harder to GET out of the chairmanship than to KEEP out, and given that I (at least) see NO pressure, whatsoever, that could be brought to bear on a "Chairman Specter", especially by some of the fortitude-deprived GOP leadership, it seems insane for the caucus to hand him the Chairmanship!

(Wow... I've had two rants in one day! Is this good, or bad? :) )


21 posted on 11/19/2004 1:55:54 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan

Its Friday. You were due.


22 posted on 11/19/2004 1:58:32 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: hinterlander

Specter's going to get the chairmanship...there's no question. Will this frustrate a bunch of folks? You bet. Does anyone on Capitol Hill care? Nope. They're elected already.

Will this bloc of voters make a difference in 2006? Nope. The same RINOs will run again and get elected, because they'll win their primaries and nobody will want to vote for the Democrat.

And so it goes. The pro-life bloc just isn't big enough to get what they want. They're loud; they're noisy, but there just aren't enough people who have this as a one-issue cause to affect politics on that level in most states.

And if you think President Bush is going to press the issue, forget it. Remember, he endorsed Specter.


23 posted on 11/19/2004 2:01:44 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: hinterlander

Rev. Mahoney speaks for me!!!!

Everything he utters in this article is exactly the way many Pro-Lifers are thinking. The Republicans run a risk each time they dismiss our urgent call to arms.


24 posted on 11/19/2004 2:05:44 PM PST by Prolifeconservative (If there is another terrorist attack, the womb is a very unsafe place to hide.)
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To: MineralMan
The pro-life group got what it wanted- there'll be pro-life judges confirmed- not filibustered.

The Senate Republicans did very well by their favorite and hardest working constituency.

You liberals can whine all you want about it. No one's buying.

25 posted on 11/19/2004 2:07:48 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith

"You liberals can whine all you want about it. No one's buying."

Wow! You think I'm a liberal? Guess again.


26 posted on 11/19/2004 2:10:46 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: hinterlander

Of course Mahoney isn't quitting. There's more fundraising to be squeezed.


27 posted on 11/19/2004 2:11:37 PM PST by Barlowmaker
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To: Cicero

It is becoming more and more evident that there is a growing faction in the GOP that works deliberately against the very reasons we have been Republicans.

It frightens me that these people "on a shining hill" are behaving in an increasingly "in your face" manner to the people who put them where they are.

We also have the media to blame for not printing or airing the wrongs done this country by the left. But then they, too, have been vastly infiltrated.

Is the Internet our last bastion? (By the way, no one has ever answered my question "who owns the internet?").


28 posted on 11/19/2004 2:13:37 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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To: hinterlander

bttt


29 posted on 11/19/2004 2:23:55 PM PST by meema
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To: Paperdoll
http://www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Internet/2002/WhoOwnstheInternet.asp
http://www.howstuffworks.com/internet-infrastructure.htm
http://lrs.ed.uiuc.edu/wp/commercialism/educators-guide.html
http://www.ttivanguard.com/bru_reconn/lessig.pdf
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=520682
http://www.angelo.edu/events/university_symposium/1996/branscom.htm

etc, etc., etc. Google "Who owns the internet" for more.

30 posted on 11/19/2004 2:28:15 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Paperdoll

The internet was originally designed to be extremely decentralized so it would survive a nuclear attack. One result is that it's a very difficult thing to "own." The federal government could presumably crush it if they really chose, but short of that the internet at the moment is mainly being run by groups of nerds.


31 posted on 11/19/2004 2:35:20 PM PST by Cicero (Nil illegitemus carborundum est)
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To: Cboldt; Cicero


Thank you, Gentlemen.


32 posted on 11/19/2004 2:39:34 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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To: hinterlander

It isn't over until the fat woman sings.


33 posted on 11/19/2004 2:39:36 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: hinterlander

I am witholding giving to the RNC etc. until they get rid of Specter. I would like them to drive him to Jeffordization.

It would be better to go ahead with 54 Senators than 54 plus one Quisling.


34 posted on 11/19/2004 2:43:23 PM PST by shubi ("Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporti)
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To: Zack Nguyen
the base won't stand for it.

Har, har, har. Of course we will.

35 posted on 11/19/2004 2:47:37 PM PST by itsahoot (Sometimes the truth hurts, sometimes it makes a difference, but not often.)
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To: Cicero
We can't stop them if they decide to go ahead with this. But they would be exceedingly stupid to do so. It will be virtually impossible for them to punish Specter for misbehavior once he has the job. But he will be in a very strong position to punish them, and I expect that he will.

Are we about to see in the near future the "Potomac Shuffle"? So glad that not all are giving up because we have to let them know that we WILL impose a major destruction on them if somehow these conservative judges aren't in place by next election. I say more & more contacting just so no doubt our intentions.

36 posted on 11/19/2004 3:38:13 PM PST by Digger
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To: CWOJackson
"I've been amazed at the number of people quiting, many of them who have quit numerous times before."

Not this one. I was a Pubbie for 40 years. This year was marginal and held I my nose only and voted for Bush only because of the SC nominations. Now that the Pubbies have back-stabbed us on that one, I am gone from the Party for good.

From here on out it's Third Party for me while I watch all you die-hard loyalists fall for the "But the OTHER guy is worse!" B/S. Hint to you folks - Vaseline is cheap - you'll be needing lots of it.

37 posted on 11/19/2004 4:27:41 PM PST by Oatka
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To: hinterlander

I am seriously considering starting a PAC for the sole purpose of fighting everyone that supports Specter in the next primary.

Something along the lines of:
"If you support this thing and he gets the chairmanship, if he even twitches your next primary opponent gets (X) million."


38 posted on 11/19/2004 4:47:55 PM PST by antiantiamericans
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To: Oatka

You had to hold your nose for Bush but are ready to go third party? You should have your nose checked out, your sense of smell is backwards.


39 posted on 11/19/2004 5:26:48 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Zack Nguyen
Specter has been completely neutralized.

Neutralized? Is he dead? As Bill Devane so famously says as the character of the US Pres. Hayes - I don't THINK so.

Spectre is practically chairman. He's got the votes. This is just where the libs and Dems want him. I heard Mark Shields, the almost insane Dem spinner on PBS, lament that he was similarly neutralized or neutered or non-functional or a numb . . well. In Shields-speak, though, that means - GREAT! We got a lib as the chairman of the committee! He's gonna throw a party over this.

I am fairly confident the GOP is going to regret turning its backs on the American voter who put them there. Bush first let loose with Gonzales. Now its continuing to back Spectre, whom he also helped in the campaign. But, however, and as his defenders would point out even here on FR, the other shoe has yet to drop. Gonzales isn't yet facing the foreign nationals problem on our borders. And Spectre hasn't yet gotten the list of nominees. So when it does drop . . .

40 posted on 11/19/2004 5:28:56 PM PST by sevry
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