Posted on 11/19/2004 12:40:04 PM PST by Lindykim
Yeah, I see that now. I was posting to your #15 while you were posting your #17 to me. Great minds!
I presume you have this one too, this cite should be listed in the appendix for this Concerned Women's article. It's right out of Socarides position paper Sexual Politics And Scientific Logic: The Issue Of Homosexuality .
"which it went from that to a different lifestyle, to something that now is promoted as a positive on television networks."
"The next logical step is that any other life style than the sodomite version is the perverted one."
Which is exactly what we both know is going on. "Jesusland" is more than just anti-Christian bigotry (although I love the name) its also about attacking non-homosexual groups. Like the boyscouts. In many places, the "nightlife" is now tied to homosexuality and bisexuality, one perversion, promiscuous sex, leds to other abominations. Modonna was an example of this, with all the pro-homosexual videos, and then lesbian kissing Britanny Speers on the lips.
Our society is now in wash with homosexual images from hollywood, from the same crowd that made anyone who believed in faithful relationships a "prude" and party ruiner.
That is exactly where they are pushing it, and we need to stop it now for the good of our kids and nation. How absolutely nasty it is to push homosexual abominations on the television 24 hours a day. They need to be thrown in jail and the law needs to be upheld.
When you come across interesting articles, please feel free to post a link (and excerpt, if you have time) to Scripter's index thread. Too often, links to articles change or the article disappears so having an excerpt is helpful.
Here's one for you to check out. It confirms the APA documetation we have posted in Scripter's database.
An excerpt from "30 years ago: APA says gay is okay - Psychiatrists look back at the landmark decision to declassify homosexuality" by Laura Kiritsy, Bay Windows - National News, Thursday, April 3, 2003 (emphasis added):
"The decision by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) to declassify homosexuality as a mental illness was considered a watershed in the fledgling gay liberation movement. "This was, I think, a major issue that allowed society and the government to change a lot of stances that had been based on the pseudo-friendly idea that gayness was an illness," Hartmann explains. "Gayness traditionally, historically has been considered a sin, and a crime and then an illness. And to consider it simply a difference involved a major shift..."
The APA's decision was the result of a three-year process that began when the Gay Activists Alliance, energized by the 1969 Stonewall riots, disrupted an APA meeting in San Francisco in 1970 to protest APA seminars on treating and curing homosexuality. In 1971 the APA allowed a gay activist to address the APA meeting directly... Meanwhile, Hartmann and a group of psychiatrists worked successfully behind the scenes to install more liberal leadership in the APA. In 1973, the APA agreed to re-examine the scientific literature on homosexuality in preparation for revising the DSM and concluded that homosexuality did not fit the criteria of a mental disturbance...
But declassifying homosexuality as an illness was not immediately accepted by the entire membership of the APA. After the decision was announced, roughly 200 psychiatrists and psychoanalysts opposed to the move called for a member referendum on the issue. The membership voted to uphold the APA board of trustees decision to remove homosexuality from the DSM. "Whether they voted because they believed it is another question," says Drescher.
Since then, the APA has taken positions in favor of gay civil rights, for instance by supporting civil unions and gay parenting. The organization signed on to an amicus brief in Lawrence and Garner v. Texas, in support of overturning Texas' anti-gay sodomy law. The case was heard before the U.S. Supreme Court March 26. "I think the organization thirty years later is on the right side on all these issues," says Drescher.
And gay psychiatrists have become much more integrated into the profession and its institutions, as a result of the APA's declassification, say both Drescher and Hartmann. "It made a huge difference of course to whether people could be open, whether they could be respectful of a wide variety of patients, whether they themselves could be open enough to get professorships and distinguished positions. At the time it was impossible to be openly gay and to be in a psychiatric residency training program or in a psychoanalytic training program." Hartmann himself has served as both president and vice president of the APA. Drescher, who practices in New York City, is a past president of the APA's New York branch, the largest in the country.
But is the position that homosexuality is not an illness accepted by the entire APA membership today? Drescher concedes that there could be members who disagree. He adds, however, "They're not in positions of leadership in the organization and the American Psychiatric Association, for example, in 2000 ... put out a position statement which was critical of reparative therapies, saying that they're not proving to be effective, some people may be harmed by them, there has not been much good research done in this area. And the APA is publicly against religious groups or other non-mental health groups calling homosexuality an illness when it's not"..."
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this is VERY worth reading especially with what is happening with Marriage and the amendments.
Bump. Agreed!
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I'm pinging lentulusgracchus, he should/would be interested in this...good article thanks.
Marmor was later president of the APA, and then tangled with Paul Cameron in the argle-bargle of Baker vs. Wade, an early 80's attack on the same Texas sodomy law that was overturned in the notorious Lawrence decision. I think, but don't know, that Baker vs. Wade was mooted by the Supreme Court's action in deciding Bowers vs. Hardwick, the case that was overturned by its Lawrence decision.
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