Posted on 11/16/2004 2:42:43 PM PST by dinok
A statewide recount of the presidential vote appears inevitable after a pair of third-party candidates said they have collected enough money to pay for it.
The recount would be conducted after the election results are certified in early December.
Libertarian Michael Badnarik and the Green Party's David Cobb said on Monday they raised more than $150,000 in four days, mostly in small contributions.
Ohio law requires payment of $10 per precinct for a recount, or $113,600 statewide.
Badnarik and Cobb said they aren't trying to overturn President Bush's 136,000-vote victory in Ohio, but just want to ensure that all votes were counted properly in the face of concerns about Election Day irregularities.
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The Losertarians in WA may have cost Dino Rossi the governorship. When are they going to get a clue?
A sign from Airplane II that begins with "Unbelievable" ought to be flashing through everybody's mind right about now.
Cool! President Bush gets to win again.
So why don't they recount Michigan? There were obvious problem with the count here .
There's but a couple-letter difference between Liebertarian and Lieberal.
Whoa, they are going to certify and THEN recount??
And then let's have an investigation of vote fraud and count fraud in Detroit. Alright?
I have libertarian tendencies, but was completely turned off for good when I saw a debate Badaranik(sp?) participated in with other 3rd party candidates as Columbia U (Oct. I think it was) and he OUTRIGHT stated the democrat LIE about W starting the draft. Any thoughts I may have entertained about voting and/or supporting libertarian causes and candidates with money, time, etc.--the door is shut on that for good. This cute little OH stunt by them only reinforces my thoughts about them.
Florida law mandated a recount because of the closeness of the election.
Hope the taxpayers of Ohio enjoy picking up the tab for this political pandering.
I'm convinced that's what it is, the Green Party smells blood in the water from the wounded Dems and is hoping to peel away some of the Dems so to make themselves more "relevant".
Ok, so wait. The recount occurs after the election has been certified?? Then what's the point? Question: So what would happen in the unlikely case that the recount showed Kerry winning after all? Nothing? It's left up to Ohio's legislature? Contested slate? Goes to the House?
This is actually rather fascinating. I don't think it's likely mind you (rather: I don't think it's possible, without outright fraud on whoever does the "re-counting"...), but I do wonder how it would play out if a post-certification recount showed the result changing.....
And Philly.
Not here in Washington state.
After certification? Why wouldn't they want to do it beforehand? Oh well. Nothing is going to change anyway.
All the Ohio updates right here: http://mytwocommoncents.blogspot.com/
Or Wisconsin (then again, they would have to pay for the entire cost). Then again, if Wisconsin had gone to Bush and be the deciding state, they'd pony up the dough.
I'm in total agreement with you.
Why don't they recount Pennsylvania?
The lie that Ohio decided the election is prevalent and misleading.
Ohio didn't decide the election any more than Pennsylvania would decide the election...why not make sure the votes in PA are counted properly (the difference is smaller than the OH difference) and who knows, Bush may have won PA too, if ALL the VOTES are COUNTED!
2 slates of electors? But it wont matter since the results will be certified by then..
bumperooni!
I know. I've lurked there in the last couple of days and it's a hoot! They eat their own over there! They're furious with Kerry for conceding while people were still voting...They claim there were some who were voting at 3 a.m. on the 3rd! So if that kind of effort was made then how is it disenfranchisement? I ask bewilderingly...(is that a word?)
Huh? If the election will already have been certified, why recount?
This is what kills me about the left's focus on OH. The outcome in OH will not be overturned but consider WI. Kerry took WI by about 11,000 votes. The fact is even if Kerry had won OH and Bush had won WI, Bush would have still won! Anyone out there not believe that there was a lot of fraud in Madison and Milwaukee? Do a recount in WI, give the state to Bush and the hell with OH.
MoodyBlu
Libertarian = Green Party.
Anything to destroy both is good.
Exactly. The greenies, as another poster mentioned, just want to raise their profile and hope to peel away disgruntled dems. As for the libertarians, I assume they too, want to raise their profile, but for whatever reason they want to damamge W. As opposed to the Greens, hard to see how their doing this would peel off disgruntled Republicans into their camp--more like republicans will just be angry at THEM, period.
Anyhow, let the libs have their fun and false hope for awhile. It won't last for long, so they may as well enjoy it while they can.
....from small contributions my rosy red.....They were given enough money by the DNC to have conducted a recount, but like the "girlie men" that they are, they used the "3rd Party" to ask for the recount while they shelled out the dough, and it IS for the purpose of trying to overturn the presidential election. They don't want to admit they are liberals, they don't want to admit that they are anti-Christian bigots, and they don't want to admit they are behind the recount, but they want all ballots to count........even if they were submitted 2 weeks after the elections were over, and they ALL happen to be for democrat candidates. How coincidental. I think the GOP should ask for a recount of New York State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, and Illinois, and not just for President, but for all ballots that voted democratic for ANY office position.
About as effective as voting Libertarian.
IMHO........The Libertarian Party is a front for the Dems, to get these recounts.
there is nothing on this link right now. Sever problems? misspelling?
Good this will only serve to shore up evidence that the libs are nutjobs. If they complain and decry conspiracy theories anymore after the recount it will just reveal how very, very lost they are.
They are invalidating 20% 150000 - 20% = 120000....so even if sKerry wins 100% it aint enough....end of story
I guess the Libertarian party tells the true when they say public fees should be voluntary...
Good use of party funds, yahoos.
mostly in small contributions.What the Euro's and Islamists are getting cheap these days, one-dollar bills in unmarked envelope's?
Idiots...complete friggin idiots.
Yeah, I love it. =^D
Exactly --- I smell Soros.... :)
Let them recount. Bush will probably pick up more votes.
Ditto.
Does a nation at war really need this? Good grief, I hate the Left and the phony libertarians who are really just organized to cost the GOP votes.
Who do you think paid for this? It sure wasn't libertarians or greenies. IT was the leftist DemocRATs who are using the 3rd party candidates (playing them like a cheap deck of cards) as a front.
How much does it cost to pay for a recount in Wisconsin? Seriously. 150k is barely more than double the last fundraising round-up here, which was accomplished in record time. We're not going to lose Ohio, so why not have some fun along the way?
"What in the hell is wrong with Badnarik? What an ass."
I'll never be able to figure these people out. EVER
The sad thing about the recount is that they intend to count the "spoiled" ballots, i.e. the punch card ballots that have under and overvotes.
So I guess we'll be seeing a bunch more google-eyed election officials trying to use all their psychic powers to divine who the person voted for.
Amen.
All things considered, this is pretty cheap as far as PR for the Libertarians are concerned.
Anyone who sees their involvement as anything OTHER than a PR stunt need to check their reality meter.
I bet they never even counted absentee ballots in Cullyfoaneeah. Lesss do it!
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