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The New Prohibition?
Bridegroom Press ^ | Steve Kellmeyer

Posted on 11/04/2004 10:10:34 AM PST by skellmeyer

Contrary to predictions I made earlier this year, all eleven states considering a constitutional amendment on gay marriage passed their bans, including Oregon, a state heavily targeted by gay activists. It appears I was wrong on the connection between the contraceptive mentality and the acceptance of homosexual behaviour.

Or was I?

You see, while Americans in general opposed same-sex marriage 61% to 34%, the 18-29 age bracket supported gay marriage or civil unions 56 to 40%.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anarchism; catholic; catholics; contraception; gaymarriage; hillaryclinton; homosexualagenda; marriage; protestant

1 posted on 11/04/2004 10:10:34 AM PST by skellmeyer
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To: skellmeyer

More proof of the negative effects of hollywood and the teachers unions on the morals of the nation's youth.


2 posted on 11/04/2004 10:12:22 AM PST by Trepz
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To: skellmeyer

There is no prohibition now. Gays have marriage type cerimonies all the time. But that doesn't mean the rest of us are obligated to reward them with government benefits.


3 posted on 11/04/2004 10:13:28 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: skellmeyer
Contrary to predictions I made earlier this year, all eleven states considering a constitutional amendment on gay marriage passed their bans, including Oregon, a state heavily targeted by gay activists.

So we should heed your words now based upon how wrong you were last time? *puzzled look*

4 posted on 11/04/2004 10:13:28 AM PST by Prime Choice (Laura Bush is like everyone's sweetheart. Teresa Heinz-Kerry is like everyone's mother-in-law.)
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...the 18-29 age bracket supported gay marriage or civil unions 56 to 40%.

I believed a lot of things when I was in that age bracket that I no longer believe a couple of age brackets later.

Just because young people support gay marriage now does not mean they will support it twenty years from now when they have seen more.

5 posted on 11/04/2004 10:13:53 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (I actually did vote for John Kerry, before I voted against him.)
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To: Trepz

You are right. We need to take back responsibility of our children's moral values and stop letting the gov't and the schools indoctrinate them behind our backs.


6 posted on 11/04/2004 10:14:26 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
There is no prohibition now.

No, but the whining finger pointers want there to be:

Prohibition against marriage being one man and one woman.

7 posted on 11/04/2004 10:16:09 AM PST by Dataman
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To: skellmeyer

No rights removed and gays can still marry - lesbian woman can still marry homosexual man - same as it has always been.


8 posted on 11/04/2004 10:16:17 AM PST by stopillegalimmigration
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To: skellmeyer

However, when the 18 to 29 crowd grow up that will change...this has been going on for generations.


9 posted on 11/04/2004 10:18:07 AM PST by sierrahome (Department of Redundancy Department)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
that doesn't mean the rest of us are obligated to reward them with government benefits.

Or that homosexual 'unions' should be even given tacit approval by society. Homosexual behavior should be openly rejected and the old sodomy laws revived.

10 posted on 11/04/2004 10:18:47 AM PST by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: skellmeyer

It should be noted that I live in Goergia and from what I saw, there was NO public debate on gay marriage, either for or against. So the results of the election on this issue in GA may have been different if there had been a debate.


11 posted on 11/04/2004 10:20:12 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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the contraceptive mentality

Ah, that explains the masterdebater...

12 posted on 11/04/2004 10:21:30 AM PST by talleyman (A foreign leader told me on his deathbed: "Kerry is a liar - he just makes stuff up...")
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This noisy well financed minority agenda has no place in serious discourse.

This sort of permissive, consequence free, attitude and the extenuating circumstances thereof are the reason our society is under attack from the Islamists we are fighting now. Marriage is not for validating a lifestyle choice.

Marriage is the union of a man and woman

for raising childrne to be productive members

of society.

13 posted on 11/04/2004 10:23:56 AM PST by abc1
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This noisy well financed minority agenda has no place in serious discourse.

This sort of permissive, consequence free, attitude and the extenuating circumstances thereof are the reason our society is under attack from the Islamists we are fighting now. Marriage is not for validating a lifestyle choice.

Marriage is the union of a man and woman

for raising childrne to be productive members

of society.

14 posted on 11/04/2004 10:24:06 AM PST by abc1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes sir!

Only difference is I have never thought 'that-a-way' about this subject ever in any of my 'age brackets'.

Subject has been foisted upon us by the godless MSM driven agenda.

So far I have put behind me; home fries, root beer, faster cars, girls, cigarettes and booze for one reason or another.

Life is good.


15 posted on 11/04/2004 10:26:42 AM PST by uncleshag (Send the light !)
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To: uncleshag
Only difference is I have never thought 'that-a-way' about this subject ever in any of my 'age brackets'.

That's because we weren't inundated with homosexual propaganda when we were young.

We were inundated with anti-Viet Nam War propaganda, however, and most of us outgrew that.

I have absolute faith in the intelligence and decency of the young people of today.

Most of them will figure things out, just like we did.

16 posted on 11/04/2004 10:31:11 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: skellmeyer
It appears I was wrong on the connection between the contraceptive mentality and the acceptance of homosexual behaviour.

I am fine with both contraception and homosexual behavior.

However, I am not fine with judges telling the people of a particular state that they have to legalize gay marriage. If the good people of Massachusetts choose to do so through the democratic process, so be it. If the good people of Utah decide that marriage will remain one man and one women, that should be their right.

17 posted on 11/04/2004 10:46:08 AM PST by Modernman (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"the 18-29 age bracket supported gay marriage or civil unions 56 to 40%"

Wait until they have kids!

18 posted on 11/04/2004 10:46:15 AM PST by glennherman (a gun in every home, gays back in the closet, Islam crushed, commies jailed, etc., ad infinitum)
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To: skellmeyer

Not unless gangsters can make government-recognized marriages someplace in Chicago. :P


19 posted on 11/04/2004 10:50:55 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: O.C. - Old Cracker

I used to think so what about the sodomy laws. They were largely ignored anyway. Heck, a large number of homosexuals work in police departments. Who was going to do the enforcing. But I am beginning to see that the laws served a bigger purpose.


20 posted on 11/04/2004 11:09:48 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: skellmeyer
You see, while Americans in general opposed same-sex marriage 61% to 34%, the 18-29 age bracket supported gay marriage or civil unions 56 to 40%.

He's cooking the statistics. The key phrase is "gay marriage or civil unions." There is a huge difference between the two, and I suspect there are a large number of people in the 18-29 demographic who, even if they don't change their views as they age, would support the latter while opposing the former. Moreover, as others have already noted, this joker was dead wrong in the first place, so why does he have any more predictive credibility now?

21 posted on 11/04/2004 1:33:35 PM PST by Bitter Bierce
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